There's people who think they are gothic, and people who are actually gothic. Those who are really gothic don't need to dress themselves in black face paints and black clothes, they have their believes, and that's all they need. Those who think they are gothic ARE making a fashion, it's clearer than anything. I personally think Marylin Manson started it all, with their fashion being black and white face paints and dark as night clothes. It's only taken 10 years to spread, and now look at it. Suddenly everyone is Marylin Manson. And it's sick.