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Title: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 17, 2006, 11:07:06 am
A recent debate turned up in my Media Studies class today, we all had a discussion about violence in video games causing kids to reinact them...you know...a video game involving a weapon...lets say, a knife...they kid after playing it goes into the kitchen and grabs a knife and starts acting like they do in the video game and nearly kills someone.

There have been countless news articles over situations like this, plus many on the situation on 'Video Games Linked To Agression In Teenagers'.

In my personal opinion, kids under the age of 15 shouldn't even be playing on video games with such violence unless they are certainly mature enough.
My parents knew I was mature enough to play on GTA, and they where right.
In fact, I find the video game to be VERY stress-releaving.....especially at this point in my life where the pressures of College and society really begin to mount on my shoulders, blowing up an AI Car takes it all away.

I decided to put this here since it is a debate...even if it's about VG.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Chrono on October 17, 2006, 11:25:59 am
Yes, they're a bad influence on everyone. You could get addicted, play it 3 days straight, and start pretending the game is real life and go on some retarded killing spree.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 17, 2006, 12:01:20 pm
last yesr i've been playing sims bustin out 3 hours or more.I stopped now because i got bored of it.it is a bad influence.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Chrono on October 17, 2006, 12:07:01 pm
last yesr i've been playing sims bustin out 3 hours or more.I stopped now because i got bored of it.it is a bad influence.
That's not a bad influence. A bad influence would be if you actually did something from the game. Getting addicted to it and playing it a lot isn't exactly a bad influence...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: bub1028 on October 17, 2006, 12:11:20 pm
Yes, it can be a bad influence.  Unless you're a certain age, let's say 14, you shouldn't be playing games with major weapons, like Vice City.  Of course I do anyway and get addicted...  :)
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 12:17:43 pm
A recent debate turned up in my Media Studies class today, we all had a discussion about violence in video games causing kids to reinact them...you know...a video game involving a weapon...lets say, a knife...they kid after playing it goes into the kitchen and grabs a knife and starts acting like they do in the video game and nearly kills someone.

There have been countless news articles over situations like this, plus many on the situation on 'Video Games Linked To Agression In Teenagers'.

In my personal opinion, kids under the age of 15 shouldn't even be playing on video games with such violence unless they are certainly mature enough.
My parents knew I was mature enough to play on GTA, and they where right.
In fact, I find the video game to be VERY stress-releaving.....especially at this point in my life where the pressures of College and society really begin to mount on my shoulders, blowing up an AI Car takes it all away.

I decided to put this here since it is a debate...even if it's about VG.
Dead on. It is up to the parents, and the kid to be able to prove s/he is mature enough to handle it. I think it is bull when (and this is linking to an actual news story) a car crashed, and they found a copy of Need for Speed Underground 2 at the site, and blamed EA, when it was not Electronic Art's fault. I also think it is bull when all violent games are linked to things such as a teenager shooting down a school.

SBNet, I have played The Sims 2 for hours on end (try 12 one time, usually no more than 5)...when my parents are away that is  :wacko:

Anyways, I should be doing homework, but logged in real quick to refresh my brain, so I will write more later, but bassically, Sarah is dead on about the maturity issue. I also find stress relief when I play video games.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 17, 2006, 12:40:32 pm
i played sims 2 but it is not as good as bustin out.Bustin out you get to have a family and have babys.and the people are not as ugly as sims 2.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 12:43:30 pm
i played sims 2 but it is not as good as bustin out.Bustin out you get to have a family and have babys.and the people are not as ugly as sims 2.
Kinda going off topic, but The Sims 2 you can have more expansive familes as well a children that age, and the Create-A-Sim is way more expansive, you can litterally make your Sim look anyway you want. I think you thinking of the console version of the Sims 2. If so, yeah, that sucked. The original PC release of The Sims 2 (Plus expansions) is much better.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Patback399 on October 17, 2006, 01:09:34 pm
*plays Tetris as he's reading the topic*

*blocks fill up to top*

AGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE DIE DIE! *smashed keyboard* NO! NO! I WILL KILL ANYONE WHO TAUNTS ME! THIS SUCKS!

As for the question, no.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 17, 2006, 01:20:06 pm
i played sims 2 but it is not as good as bustin out.Bustin out you get to have a family and have babys.and the people are not as ugly as sims 2.
Kinda going off topic, but The Sims 2 you can have more expansive familes as well a children that age, and the Create-A-Sim is way more expansive, you can litterally make your Sim look anyway you want. I think you thinking of the console version of the Sims 2. If so, yeah, that sucked. The original PC release of The Sims 2 (Plus expansions) is much better.
yes,i was talking about consoles.I want to have PC but i can't put more stuff into this computer.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 17, 2006, 02:31:58 pm
Yes, they're a bad influence on everyone. You could get addicted, play it 3 days straight, and start pretending the game is real life and go on some retarded killing spree.
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last yesr i've been playing sims bustin out 3 hours or more.I stopped now because i got bored of it.it is a bad influence.
That's not a bad influence. A bad influence would be if you actually did something from the game. Getting addicted to it and playing it a lot isn't exactly a bad influence...
they involve sex in the game.And fighting,and doing naughty things.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 02:33:29 pm
Yes. I think you should be a certain age to play video games period. I think they should make a law where the ratings determine if the child can play. For instance

10 year old boy: Mom can you buy me GRand theft auto?
snob mom who buys child anything: sure lets go get it

Store clerk: Im sorry, but i cant sell this game to you, your child is definetly not 18.

Then the clerk goes on and explains all the bad things in the game. Say something about killing the rich people in the game and steal their shopping bags and money, chances are rich snobby mom will say no to son.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 02:41:53 pm
Yes. I think you should be a certain age to play video games period. I think they should make a law where the ratings determine if the child can play. For instance

10 year old boy: Mom can you buy me GRand theft auto?
snob mom who buys child anything: sure lets go get it

Store clerk: Im sorry, but i cant sell this game to you, your child is definetly not 18.

Then the clerk goes on and explains all the bad things in the game. Say something about killing the rich people in the game and steal their shopping bags and money, chances are rich snobby mom will say no to son.

...Most game stores already do that...if I am not mistaken, the law in most states require Game Stores to not sell Mature rated video games to minors without parental consent at the time of purchase. For example, I went to GameStop to by Fable: The Lost Chapters, which is rated M for some reason I am yet to understand. They clerks are required to tell you the ESRB details given on the box, and explain what it means.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Patback399 on October 17, 2006, 02:59:54 pm
Not all rich people are snobs, you know.

Bill Gates certainly isn't.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 04:02:17 pm
They need to go into more of detail into the game. i know down here they hardly say anything and they take your money and you leave.

I never said all rich people are snobs. I have Aunts, Uncles, cousins, and grandparents who are rollin in dough. Point being, *most* rich people are snobs. not all

Especially a doctors wife, they are horrible.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Chrono on October 17, 2006, 04:10:06 pm
Yes, they're a bad influence on everyone. You could get addicted, play it 3 days straight, and start pretending the game is real life and go on some retarded killing spree.
t
last yesr i've been playing sims bustin out 3 hours or more.I stopped now because i got bored of it.it is a bad influence.
That's not a bad influence. A bad influence would be if you actually did something from the game. Getting addicted to it and playing it a lot isn't exactly a bad influence...
they involve sex in the game.And fighting,and doing naughty things.
Well has it had any effect on you? And srsly, the fighting in Sims are about as bad as Super Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: bub1028 on October 17, 2006, 04:19:00 pm
Yes, they're a bad influence on everyone. You could get addicted, play it 3 days straight, and start pretending the game is real life and go on some retarded killing spree.
t
last yesr i've been playing sims bustin out 3 hours or more.I stopped now because i got bored of it.it is a bad influence.
That's not a bad influence. A bad influence would be if you actually did something from the game. Getting addicted to it and playing it a lot isn't exactly a bad influence...
they involve sex in the game.And fighting,and doing naughty things.
Dude, I don't think that we're exactly talking about Sims type games here, not that it's exactly a peachy-clean game, but we're talking more Grand-Theft-Auto here.

One violent (sort of) game that I'm addicted to is Agent 007 with my friends.  I suck so bad at it and it's so funny because I'm just clueless.  But that's only rated T...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Spider-Boogie on October 17, 2006, 05:06:53 pm
They can be. I play Jak 2 and 3 a lot, and both are insanely violent, but I'm not gonna go pick up a gun and fire at people. They should both be rated M, not only for violence, but there's lots of bad language in both.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 06:46:34 pm
They need to go into more of detail into the game. i know down here they hardly say anything and they take your money and you leave.
No they don't. All the need to do, and should need to do is say what is on the box. That explains it enough. For example, Fable: The Lost Chapters is rated M for the following:

Blood, Sexual Themes, Strong Language, Violence

What do you think is in the game? By looking at that, I think Violence, Cursing, Sexual Themes, and Blood. It's flat out, right there for you, and if you are too stupid to understand what the description means, you should not be allowed anyone near a gaming store, nor a video store for that matter. When you see a movie trailer, for say, Mission Impossible III. The movie is rated PG-13, and the reasons why are explained. I saw the movie. It was violent (not a lot of blood, but a good deal of violence), and did I feel like bombing a bridge at the end? No. I felt like laughing at the cheesy ending of an otherwise excellent movie, but I did not feel like blowing anything up/killing anyone, nor can I assure, did anyone else in that theatre. It is up to the store to give you the proper information, which they do fine job of, and the parent to not be stupid, and decide wether or not their kid is mature enough/stable enough to handle such a game. (Same goes with movies)
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 06:51:56 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 06:53:12 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
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Which is why I stated, the law in most states requires the clerks to read what is written on the box to the parents if the game is rated M.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 06:54:23 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
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Which is why I stated, the law in most states requires the clerks to read what is written on the box to the parents if the game is rated M.

But as I said alot of clerks here dont explain it or give a damn. i went in the store, bought wedding crashers for my psp and she just rang it up. i bought the uncorked one as well. had some pretty bad stuff in it.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 06:56:59 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
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Which is why I stated, the law in most states requires the clerks to read what is written on the box to the parents if the game is rated M.

But as I said alot of clerks here dont explain it or give a damn. i went in the store, bought wedding crashers for my psp and she just rang it up. i bought the uncorked one as well. had some pretty bad stuff in it.
Actually the corked version has nudity as well...
And that is the fault of the clerk, for not doing there job.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 17, 2006, 07:00:25 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
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Which is why I stated, the law in most states requires the clerks to read what is written on the box to the parents if the game is rated M.

But as I said alot of clerks here dont explain it or give a damn. i went in the store, bought wedding crashers for my psp and she just rang it up. i bought the uncorked one as well. had some pretty bad stuff in it.
That's the clerk's fault, not the PSP's fault.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 07:01:05 pm
But still. Point being, is that they need some type of law for kids. If you are mature enough then you should be able to get the games you want. I dont think anyone under the age of 14 should be playing any drasticly violent video games.

Therefore growing up with them in early childhood could pose as a bad example and children tend to imatate behavior wich they find "cool" and is in later terms being very innappropriate.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 07:03:08 pm
Yes but not all parents or people are intelligent and look at the back.
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Which is why I stated, the law in most states requires the clerks to read what is written on the box to the parents if the game is rated M.

But as I said alot of clerks here dont explain it or give a damn. i went in the store, bought wedding crashers for my psp and she just rang it up. i bought the uncorked one as well. had some pretty bad stuff in it.
That's the clerk's fault, not the PSP's fault.
Best rebuttal post ever.  ^_^

Quote from: garygirl
But still. Point being, is that they need some type of law for kids. If you are mature enough then you should be able to get the games you want. I dont think anyone under the age of 14 should be playing any drasticly violent video games.

Therefore growing up with them in early childhood could pose as a bad example and children tend to imatate behavior wich they find "cool" and is in later terms being very innappropriate.
How do you expect the clerks to know if your kid is mature enough or not? With age does NOT come maturity, in any way possible. Maturity comes with expierence. For example, a 6-year old who has witnessed death, is most likely going to be more mature at 13, than a teenage punk at 16.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 17, 2006, 07:07:54 pm
But still. Point being, is that they need some type of law for kids. If you are mature enough then you should be able to get the games you want. I dont think anyone under the age of 14 should be playing any drasticly violent video games.

Therefore growing up with them in early childhood could pose as a bad example and children tend to imatate behavior wich they find "cool" and is in later terms being very innappropriate.
But there are still some definite problems here.  You can't make it illegal for kids to play games intended for adults.  If the parents don't care then they are gonna buy those games for their kids anyway.  My sister-in-law bought Grand Theft Auto for my nephew, who was 11 or 12 at the time, knowing full well what was in the game.  She did not care.  That said, my nephew may be a brat, but he hasn't gone and blown any hooker's heads off yet.

Besides, how would we ensure that anyone under 14 doesn't play those games.  Are we going to have hidden cameras in the home or something?  This is one of those issues that you can't control.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 07:25:18 pm
I just think they should be more cautios when selling the game. My uncle bought my bratty 8 year old cousin the game when he was 6. Noiw what does that tell you? That kid is spoiled rotten
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 07:27:08 pm
I just think they should be more cautios when selling the game. My uncle bought my bratty 8 year old cousin the game when he was 6. Noiw what does that tell you? That kid is spoiled rotten
And this is the fault of the ESRB, MPAA, Video Game Stores, George Lucas's Mom, Video Stores, and the Entire Film and Gaming Industry, The Government....how?
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 07:29:23 pm
I never said it was their fault. I just think it should be listed in a seperate section of the store for gaming. for instance an "adult game section adults only" section where only adults can go in and get the game. Maybe then the parents will realize "wow this might be something not very good for my child to play"
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Chrono on October 17, 2006, 07:31:14 pm
No. Parents just don't care. And making a section like that is just spending more money on some sort of renovations for the store. If the clerks sell it to the parents, it's their fault, nobody elses, and they should be fired. And the parents fail at life for buying their 7 year old GTA...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 07:32:15 pm
No. Parents just don't care. And making a section like that is just spending more money on some sort of renovations for the store. If the clerks sell it to the parents, it's their fault, nobody elses, and they should be fired. And the parents fail at life for buying their 7 year old GTA...


Kinda what I wanna say.
But yea i totally agree with you on that.

meaning the clerks should be fired

but the adults should know better
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 07:34:39 pm
I never said it was their fault. I just think it should be listed in a seperate section of the store for gaming. for instance an "adult game section adults only" section where only adults can go in and get the game. Maybe then the parents will realize "wow this might be something not very good for my child to play"
M means Mature, and NOT adult. AO means adult, that's why its called...ADULTS ONLY....

Since when is Halo 2 a f*cki*g game only people byond 18 should play? There is violence and blood, but guess what? There is violence and blood on TV every day. And kids seem to watch more TV than play video games.

And Brad is dead on with that last post in entirty. Agreeing with that post he made Rachel, is completely contradicting the entire point you made in this thread. Meaning, the Debate Den has a new record for first officially won debate, unless someone else wants to take up your point.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 17, 2006, 07:36:14 pm
Well i said most of it i agree with. Not ALL

get it straight son.

But still i think buying the video games should be taken more seriously and not as easily able to buy.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 17, 2006, 07:43:31 pm
Well i said most of it i agree with. Not ALL

get it straight son.

But still i think buying the video games should be taken more seriously and not as easily able to buy.
Again, I will restate my claim that the problem falls with parents who are not the gaming companies, nor the store.
The problem lies with parents who do not judge there kids maturity, and just let their kids play anything, and moronic clerks who can't take five seconds to state the game contents.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 18, 2006, 08:42:48 am
I initiate the "Gamer Protection Act".

Have a test that needs to be taken and have a psychiatrist visit if wanting to play M games under the age of 16.
If a violent act is recorded by the school, then they can have privledges revoked for buying games, or playing games if the ID is connected to their Xbox Live/Wii Portal/PS3 Home/Steam menu/etc.

Solution to the big problem....

Problem: Parents buying M rated games for the kids.
Solution: Parents go in and give the retailers the name of the kid that they want to buy for. System scans for the name, and it comes up with the kid's info. Retailer either denies purchases or allows them.

It seems somewhat full-proof because the parents are no longer involved with any sort of decision.

MS could EASILY get away with a small update that requires this info, allowing 1 month for gamers to play without the card until they can go get one.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 18, 2006, 09:45:22 am
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 18, 2006, 01:36:06 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 18, 2006, 01:49:15 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.


Very smart
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 18, 2006, 02:41:04 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.
Unless the parent bought the system...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 18, 2006, 02:46:43 pm
Not all rich people are snobs, you know.

Bill Gates certainly isn't.
Yeah.He helps the poor.Those he still do that?I don't know much about that guy.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 18, 2006, 02:50:06 pm
my brother buys the bad games so i can easily play dose at home.But of course i don't to because they're boring.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Chrono on October 18, 2006, 03:10:10 pm
Not all rich people are snobs, you know.

Bill Gates certainly isn't.
Yeah.He helps the poor.Does he still do that?I don't know much about that guy.
If you say "yeah", and then go "oh wait, what?", don't bother posting it. And use proper grammer...
2nd thing, don't double post...especially when the message has hardly anything to do with the current conversation.
3rd thing to everybody: I think that the clerks just don't care, as long as they get a sale. Maybe they get paid by comission(sp?). They probably just wanna make money and don't tell the parents that the game is bad...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 18, 2006, 03:57:05 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.
Unless the parent bought the system...

....

If the parents bought the system, it would go on the parent's card. Therefore, if the parents let the kid use their system, they're legally out of luck. It would also not allow kids to buy their own games rated M until after 16 (cause they don't own a system). The system would become a "guest system" on their card at 16. Games would also be available for pickup by parents 2 days before his 16th birthday for gift wrapping.

If the parents tried to buy the game for an underage kid with the system, they wouldn't be told no at the register.

The only problem is that the gov't would have to fund this and send card making machines to every video game retailer.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 19, 2006, 04:38:52 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.
Unless the parent bought the system...

....

If the parents bought the system, it would go on the parent's card. Therefore, if the parents let the kid use their system, they're legally out of luck. It would also not allow kids to buy their own games rated M until after 16 (cause they don't own a system). The system would become a "guest system" on their card at 16. Games would also be available for pickup by parents 2 days before his 16th birthday for gift wrapping.

If the parents tried to buy the game for an underage kid with the system, they wouldn't be told no at the register.

The only problem is that the gov't would have to fund this and send card making machines to every video game retailer.


Omg i just had deja vuu...

and yea theres that point too
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Rocko on October 19, 2006, 04:51:22 pm
All the parents have to do is say it's for them...
...and scanning the parent's card would show that they don't own that system.

And if they do, and they want to buy GTA:Vice City for themselves, and they let their kids play THEIR game, and their kids go on a shooting spree, then the parents would be held accountable, not game designers.

Basically, to buy anything game related, you would need this card, no matter the age.
Unless the parent bought the system...

....

If the parents bought the system, it would go on the parent's card. Therefore, if the parents let the kid use their system, they're legally out of luck. It would also not allow kids to buy their own games rated M until after 16 (cause they don't own a system). The system would become a "guest system" on their card at 16. Games would also be available for pickup by parents 2 days before his 16th birthday for gift wrapping.

If the parents tried to buy the game for an underage kid with the system, they wouldn't be told no at the register.

The only problem is that the gov't would have to fund this and send card making machines to every video game retailer.
They don't do the same thing for music, or R rated movies, and R is the same as M. Maybe it's just me but your idea sounds like nannystateish.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 19, 2006, 07:22:55 pm
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 19, 2006, 08:37:45 pm
The only kids who go out imitating Grand Theft Auto are fracked up in the head already. The only real and verifiable effect video games are having is plumping up our youth.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Rocko on October 19, 2006, 08:39:36 pm
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
What if the game someone it buying is a gift? I might buy a game for a friend who has an Xbox 360, but I don't own one, would I be denied purchase?
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 20, 2006, 08:18:19 am
The correct answer for why kids immitate GTA: Poor education.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 20, 2006, 10:05:07 am
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
What if the game someone it buying is a gift? I might buy a game for a friend who has an Xbox 360, but I don't own one, would I be denied purchase?
Nope. Cause you couldn't play it anyways.

You'd only be denied purchase if your friend was underage and not allowed to get it.

Stop nitpicking at my idea and make a better one :P
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 20, 2006, 04:15:18 pm
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
What if the game someone it buying is a gift? I might buy a game for a friend who has an Xbox 360, but I don't own one, would I be denied purchase?

No because you tell them your friends name and they can look it up and see whether the person is underage or not.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 20, 2006, 06:12:45 pm
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
That number is 99.9% bull.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 20, 2006, 07:23:18 pm
It's certainly gonna be better than what Congress comes up with.

And 99.9% of all movies/music have less of an impact on teenage violence than video games do....

That number doesn't include Fight Club, one of my all time favorite movies :P

did you know they wanted to ban selling it in walmarts in the 'bargain movie' section, for fear that kids might look at the cover and get ideas?
That number is 99.9% bull.

I have to agree on that.

Drug related/sexual songs still influence kids just as much as a video game. Although music cant be seen, music is a very strong thing and can get to a person. And movies are bad, maybe even worse than video games, because it displays what a character would do, not what the gamer would do, and its still very much of an impact on them.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 20, 2006, 07:58:27 pm
When was the last time you watched a movie with someone and they were like "omg let's go shoot up on herion!" or "let's go ambush a japanese resturaunt with glocks and waste the owner".

No.

Movies are re-enactments of a writer's script. They create characters that you might be able to relate to. In most movies, you can spot someone who is bad, and know that they are bad. And you know that bad = wrong. And if you don't know that, then you shouldn't be watching movies.

Movies are an expression of one's feelings into words with instruments and voices. It's a form of entertainment that has been around forever.

When was the last time there was a murder that was publicized that "murderer was influenced by a movie"? I've heard of maybe 2 of these, and 1 was a reenactment of "Murder on the Orient Express", which was a book originally (Agatha Christie FTW!) and another where a guy reenacted an episode of "Murder She Wrote" to kill his wife who was blackmailing him.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 20, 2006, 08:52:44 pm
It still is influencial and should be treated as so.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 21, 2006, 06:10:59 am
....If nobody's ever reacted to a movie or music, then how is it influencial....

Right now, video games are MORE influencial than movies are music. So something must be done to curb that influence onto other kids. Whatever the idea is, it will probably be good. My idea has a few flaws, but I'm sure that the gov't could fix that up.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 21, 2006, 01:39:35 pm
The only idea we need here is personal responsibility. Keep the gov't out of the market as much as possible. Any time a disturbed kid goes nuts, its 99% the parents fault.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 21, 2006, 02:06:00 pm
Yea, but how do we pin that decision on the parents if the kid bought the game?

I know that they let him play it, but the gov't would rather just ban M games instead of trying to fix the idiotic parents.

That's why I thought up that 'card' idea...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 21, 2006, 08:00:20 pm
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 21, 2006, 08:02:08 pm
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
I have to say, this is one of the very few times I have agreed with you.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 21, 2006, 08:55:15 pm
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
I have to say, this is one of the very few times I have agreed with you.

I still dont.

There was a CSI or Law and Order thing on tv about something like this. The kid made straight A's ,respected his parents, teachers, elders, always obeyed. And the parents checked everything he did, but the kid found ways to hide a videogame and a website that was teaching him to make a bomb, and finally he made it, brought it to the school and blew it up because this game consumed his life pretty much. He used the fact of being an excellent student to help his story back him up on how he would never do such a thing. Parents can be top secrete security gaurds and still not find anything.

Its not just the parents fault, if a kid wants to do something, wel hell he will do it. Im just like that. They can punish me all they want and i will still do what they dont want me to.

Its not just the parents to blame, its the child themself as well.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 21, 2006, 09:36:25 pm
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
I have to say, this is one of the very few times I have agreed with you.

I still dont.

There was a CSI or Law and Order thing on tv about something like this. The kid made straight A's ,respected his parents, teachers, elders, always obeyed. And the parents checked everything he did, but the kid found ways to hide a videogame and a website that was teaching him to make a bomb, and finally he made it, brought it to the school and blew it up because this game consumed his life pretty much. He used the fact of being an excellent student to help his story back him up on how he would never do such a thing. Parents can be top secrete security gaurds and still not find anything.

Its not just the parents fault, if a kid wants to do something, wel hell he will do it. Im just like that. They can punish me all they want and i will still do what they dont want me to.

Its not just the parents to blame, its the child themself as well.

Children are irresponsible little poopheads.

And if he had enough time to become completely hooked on it, then his parents were't watching him close enough.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Sb129 on October 21, 2006, 10:19:53 pm
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 21, 2006, 11:50:03 pm
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
I have to say, this is one of the very few times I have agreed with you.

I still dont.

There was a CSI or Law and Order thing on tv about something like this. The kid made straight A's ,respected his parents, teachers, elders, always obeyed. And the parents checked everything he did, but the kid found ways to hide a videogame and a website that was teaching him to make a bomb, and finally he made it, brought it to the school and blew it up because this game consumed his life pretty much. He used the fact of being an excellent student to help his story back him up on how he would never do such a thing. Parents can be top secrete security gaurds and still not find anything.

Its not just the parents fault, if a kid wants to do something, wel hell he will do it. Im just like that. They can punish me all they want and i will still do what they dont want me to.

Its not just the parents to blame, its the child themself as well.

Fear mongering by the media, sensationalist melodrama. Whatever show you saw simply took the lies the conservative media would spread and created a dramatization. Unless this kid was hiding both the video game and the bomb down his pants, his parents would have caught on were they truly as attentive as the show portrayed them. If you could get me an episode name I would be rather interested in watching this program for myself, so that I can decide for myself how far the show is realy bending reality. I generaly dont watch the news on television because those people are generaly full of it and only out for ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoned_candy_scare for example, is a case of the media using scare tactics to get ratings and harm the public view of a very popular and very safe tradition.

The one thing we can be thankful for these days is that some of those kids who are planning to do something horrific like shoot up their school are dumb enough to post videos of their weaponry on YouTube and the like.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 22, 2006, 04:41:13 am
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 22, 2006, 08:57:03 am
Where did the kid get money for a $50 game? how did he get to the store on his own? why arent his parents teaching him its wrong to lie? Where are they when he is playing the game? Why dont they talk to the parents of friends when he goes to a friends house? How come they arent doing the occasional check between the matresses for contraband like M rated games?

Shall I continue?
This is all about parental responsibility. The ratings are there, there reviews are all over the internet, and the back of the box will have a description of exactly what is being bought. Its the parents who just buy whatever their kid asks for without investigating ,and lets their kid play alone in their room for hours on end, never checking on them, that is to blame for the behavior of their offspring.

When a child commits a crime, its the fault of the parents for not being there and for not raising their kid right.
I have to say, this is one of the very few times I have agreed with you.

I still dont.

There was a CSI or Law and Order thing on tv about something like this. The kid made straight A's ,respected his parents, teachers, elders, always obeyed. And the parents checked everything he did, but the kid found ways to hide a videogame and a website that was teaching him to make a bomb, and finally he made it, brought it to the school and blew it up because this game consumed his life pretty much. He used the fact of being an excellent student to help his story back him up on how he would never do such a thing. Parents can be top secrete security gaurds and still not find anything.

Its not just the parents fault, if a kid wants to do something, wel hell he will do it. Im just like that. They can punish me all they want and i will still do what they dont want me to.

Its not just the parents to blame, its the child themself as well.
Oh yeah, because you can believe everything the TV says, I have had a change of mind.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Sb129 on October 22, 2006, 09:53:54 am
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 22, 2006, 09:58:25 am
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 22, 2006, 11:06:58 am
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.

Actually, a parent can teach a child EVERYTHING they can about right/wrong...but the child needs to actually have the ability to destinguish (sp?) right/wrong by themselves....and since this generation is lazy, they don't do it and expect everyone to take the blame for their mistakes.
Children who do this should be punished, something so severe that it will force them to never do it again.
Like taking the Tv away from them would be a good start.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 22, 2006, 12:12:55 pm
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.

Actually, a parent can teach a child EVERYTHING they can about right/wrong...but the child needs to actually have the ability to destinguish (sp?) right/wrong by themselves....and since this generation is lazy, they don't do it and expect everyone to take the blame for their mistakes.
Children who do this should be punished, something so severe that it will force them to never do it again.
Like taking the Tv away from them would be a good start.
the belt is more easier.My mom and dad does it all the time and i obey.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 22, 2006, 01:34:39 pm
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.

Actually, a parent can teach a child EVERYTHING they can about right/wrong...but the child needs to actually have the ability to destinguish (sp?) right/wrong by themselves....and since this generation is lazy, they don't do it and expect everyone to take the blame for their mistakes.
Children who do this should be punished, something so severe that it will force them to never do it again.
Like taking the Tv away from them would be a good start.
the belt is more easier.My mom and dad does it all the time and i obey.

You might want them to ease off on that a bit, it seems to be rattling your brain....
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 22, 2006, 01:51:31 pm
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.

Actually, a parent can teach a child EVERYTHING they can about right/wrong...but the child needs to actually have the ability to destinguish (sp?) right/wrong by themselves....and since this generation is lazy, they don't do it and expect everyone to take the blame for their mistakes.
Children who do this should be punished, something so severe that it will force them to never do it again.
Like taking the Tv away from them would be a good start.
the belt is more easier.My mom and dad does it all the time and i obey.

You might want them to ease off on that a bit, it seems to be rattling your brain....
no,they don't do it.They just say it and i get scare.Then they yell at me loud D:
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 22, 2006, 03:13:18 pm
ASE, i'm suprised that you're not a fan of the belt...

Getting my butt beat when I was rebellious (ex. I threw a lamp once) was definently a good thing.

Too bad parents can't do it nowadays, or their 5 yr old son/daughter will sue them. Forget child protection...they'd need parent protection...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on October 22, 2006, 04:00:11 pm
I'm not sure if I've actually contributed to this topic, and I'm not going to start looking, either. So, I'll put my $.02 in...

I think video games can have a good/bad effect on kids these days. It just depends on what kind of game they buy.

If they buy some violence game, they'll end up saying, or imitating, some of the things that were in that game (punisher, resident evil, etc) when they go to school or wherever. Now, if they were to buy some learning games (The Learning Company, (Treasure Cove, SpellBound, etc) LeapFrog, etc) then, no, there is no bad influence there.

It's the parents that should be the blame for not looking into what type of games they are getting for their kids. Yes, I'm sure they are not 'hip' on todays technology/games, but they need to start studying, or playing to get the feel of what kind of games their son/daughter is intereted in these days, and then they can tell their kids that they need to think more positive on what games they can get for a present/prize.

Perhaps, they need to make a rule or some sort of agreement about when or what they buy. Maybe tell them if they buy a violent game, they need to play more of a learning/fun type of game more. Have the kids play 1-2 hours of the fun game then when they are done with that, have them play 30 minutes (no more than that) of the violent game. I know that still seems they are giving bad influence but it gives them more 'freedom'...I guess... <.<;;
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 23, 2006, 07:45:09 am
No, only a retard would say "Hmm, I sure do love this game! Let me go out & shoot aliens!" or for GTA "Yo! This game is rockin' yo! Let me go mug some *dolphin noise* Yo!" Of course the GTA thing really happens.  :rolleyes:

It happens mainly among adults than anyone else...yet the government are saying that it's a bad influence on kids....
The only games I can think of that will set bad examples on kids are those 'war games' and 'racing games'.
Some idiotic 8 year old down my street stole his dads car and crashed it...he said he wanted to race his friend like in the videogame 'GrandPrix Racer 2000' or something.
Kids can be just as responsible as the parents.
Wow. That kid has mental problems. Of course it's also the parent's fault for not putting the keys out of his reach.
Yeah I agree with adults, but the adults are influeincing kids.
War games can be a good thing, teaching kids how to fight in war & all. But of course if it's not in a war zone it's bad.
no,it's parents faualt for not teaching the kid of whats right or wrong.

Actually, a parent can teach a child EVERYTHING they can about right/wrong...but the child needs to actually have the ability to destinguish (sp?) right/wrong by themselves....and since this generation is lazy, they don't do it and expect everyone to take the blame for their mistakes.
Children who do this should be punished, something so severe that it will force them to never do it again.
Like taking the Tv away from them would be a good start.
the belt is more easier.My mom and dad does it all the time and i obey.

If they do it all the time then that means you don't obey since you are causing them to do it all the time therfor you where not obeying and causing a loop-cycle.

When i was young and did bad things my parents would take away anything that I enjoyed for a short while until I learnt never to do it again, but after so long they just gave up...since I learnt myself what not to do they felt like they didn't need to punish me.
That....and my intelligence is far superior to your average dirt-monkey....
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on October 23, 2006, 08:44:29 am
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 23, 2006, 11:52:54 am
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
they don't hit me.they just scare me
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 23, 2006, 07:59:11 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 23, 2006, 11:22:10 pm
Spare the rod and spoil the child eh?

imho, the parent who resorts to spanking or yelling has failed to raise their child to respect them and must rule through fear.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 24, 2006, 03:58:33 am
Spare the rod and spoil the child eh?

imho, the parent who resorts to spanking or yelling has failed to raise their child to respect them and must rule through fear.

Which can result in social difficulties for the child in the future.
Anyway, back on topic about Video Games being bad for kiddies.

The idea is a load of rubbish, I blame the governemnt for providing defective babies. lol.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on October 24, 2006, 10:48:04 am
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.
If you have marks from getting hit with anything, its abuse
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 24, 2006, 11:06:15 am
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.
If you have marks from getting hit with anything, its abuse
You mean it's what society calls abuse. I call it 'knocking some sense into them darn kids'.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on October 24, 2006, 12:42:02 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.
If you have marks from getting hit with anything, its abuse
You mean it's what society calls abuse. I call it 'knocking some sense into them darn kids'.
Aww yeah.  I don't think I ever had any marks.  All that happened is that I learned not to lie, be mouthy, hit my brothers, throw things, etc...
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 24, 2006, 12:52:14 pm
Spare the rod and spoil the child eh?

imho, the parent who resorts to spanking or yelling has failed to raise their child to respect them and must rule through fear.
dude.Parents who punish their kids are good parents.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 24, 2006, 01:22:31 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.
If you have marks from getting hit with anything, its abuse
You mean it's what society calls abuse. I call it 'knocking some sense into them darn kids'.
Aww yeah.  I don't think I ever had any marks.  All that happened is that I learned not to lie, be mouthy, hit my brothers, throw things, etc...
QFT.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Daniel on October 24, 2006, 01:58:56 pm
Racheal, you, kind ma'am, are full of it. Video Games are NOT a bad ifluence on children. I don't go get a sword and kill people.

Yes, this was Daniel using Liz's account to edit his own post.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: IceFox on October 24, 2006, 02:10:06 pm
I have been playing Zelda games since 1998. I am yet to get a sword, and run across the world slaugtering people.

I have been playing Call of Duty since 2k4. I have not gone out and killed anyone with an MP40 or Thompson.

I have been playing RTCW:ET (It's rated M), for a little over a year and I have not gone out and knified someone in the back.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 24, 2006, 02:38:29 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 24, 2006, 04:26:16 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.


You should get smacked or spanked with the belt. A police officer came to my house ( my brother went crazy and punche dout his window and was trying to kill us with a knife a few weeks ago) and the police officer said its perfectly leagle to spank your children with a belt. He does it to his kids if they dont listen.

He said as long as your not punching the child or kicking them or assaulting them then its fine.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 24, 2006, 04:44:25 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.

Are you trying to insinuate that only stupid people from the ghetto go and kill people because they play games?
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 24, 2006, 06:54:11 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.

Are you trying to insinuate that only stupid people from the ghetto go and kill people because they play games?
Hey now, tom leykis is from the south bronx and he is worth millions. Being from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to be bad.  Your life *is* what you make of it. Fact is that stupid people kill other people and stupid people are everywhere.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: carterhawk on October 24, 2006, 06:56:20 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.


You should get smacked or spanked with the belt. A police officer came to my house ( my brother went crazy and punche dout his window and was trying to kill us with a knife a few weeks ago) and the police officer said its perfectly leagle to spank your children with a belt. He does it to his kids if they dont listen.

He said as long as your not punching the child or kicking them or assaulting them then its fine.

Seems like the last thing your brother needs is to fear his family, which may already be the case considering his actions. If someone is not mentaly developed enough to understand that using violence against others is wrong, they must not be taught that violence against others is okay, least of all by their parents.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on October 24, 2006, 07:12:46 pm
If you're parents continue to hit you with the belt, its called child abuse. Report it.
Hell no it isn't.  I got spanked with a belt many a time, and I deserved it every time.


You should get smacked or spanked with the belt. A police officer came to my house ( my brother went crazy and punche dout his window and was trying to kill us with a knife a few weeks ago) and the police officer said its perfectly leagle to spank your children with a belt. He does it to his kids if they dont listen.

He said as long as your not punching the child or kicking them or assaulting them then its fine.

Seems like the last thing your brother needs is to fear his family, which may already be the case considering his actions. If someone is not mentaly developed enough to understand that using violence against others is wrong, they must not be taught that violence against others is okay, least of all by their parents.

The police said it was fine. He never gets spanked, he gets the computer taken away and other things which he gets pissed over and punches his windows out. And hes not afraid of anybody.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: VulturEMaN on October 24, 2006, 07:43:18 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.
Are you trying to insinuate that only stupid people from the ghetto go and kill people because they play games?
Hey now, tom leykis is from the south bronx and he is worth millions. Being from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to be bad.  Your life *is* what you make of it. Fact is that stupid people kill other people and stupid people are everywhere.
I'M STUPID!!!!! lol

Naa...I just hear every day down at community college in Pittsburgh...kids that live there saying "I'm so stupid I'll never get this job as a mechanical engineer"...So I always associate someone saying stupid with ghetto...my bad :P
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebobnet on October 25, 2006, 12:02:28 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.

Are you trying to insinuate that only stupid people from the ghetto go and kill people because they play games?
Hey now, tom leykis is from the south bronx and he is worth millions. Being from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to be bad.  Your life *is* what you make of it. Fact is that stupid people kill other people and stupid people are everywhere.
Correct
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Thomas on October 25, 2006, 01:03:19 pm
it depends on the kinds of people.You people are to smart to do crazy stuff.

Are you trying to insinuate that only stupid people from the ghetto go and kill people because they play games?
Hey now, tom leykis is from the south bronx and he is worth millions. Being from a bad neighborhood doesnt mean you have to be bad.  Your life *is* what you make of it. Fact is that stupid people kill other people and stupid people are everywhere.

That problem can easily be resolved by EDUCATION....and any who try to drop out should be hooked to a computer and forced to learn everything.
Our intelligence is the only thing that seperates us from animals.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Wilytank on November 10, 2006, 09:07:31 am
Only with ones with sexual content.  I'm okay with violence.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: aligirl on November 26, 2006, 04:34:07 am
It can depend on how mature and/or young the gamer is. I think video games with violence, sexual content or drug reference needs some sort of warning that it's just a bunch of colorful pixels on a TV screen, not real life.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Patback399 on November 26, 2006, 09:12:52 am
"There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets?"
- Dick Cavett
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Roger on November 27, 2006, 02:38:45 am
I've not read the entire topic, so I'll say what I think.

Video games can't take all the blame.  It should be the state of society in general.

All forms of media place a large emphasis on violence, sex, etc.  This is because those are the things that catch the attention of people.  Those things cause media to sell.

Because of the way media is presented, kids are shown more and more violence every day and some of them to start to think "I wonder what it would be like to shoot someone" or "What would happen if I pulled a knife on someone?"   After all of this, a few kids get crazy and decide to try it.  Then when we see it on the news, it makes less of an impact on us because now we are hardened.  We see violence as less of an issue than it used to be.

Media in general can't be the only reason either.  There has ALWAYS been violence in media...even in older cartoons that our parents grew up watching.  Even live action shows with western themes.  There is a ton of violence in those.  It's not only media, but the upbringing.  Parents play a large role in this.

Parents aren't taking initiative and monitoring what their kids see and hear.  Video games, movies, television shows, and music (to an extent) have some form of rating system.  All video games in the US are rated by the ESRB and then on the back of the case, it explains why the game was given its rating.  Movies are rated by the MPAA and often the reasons for the rating are given.  Television is given ratings (shown in the top corner of the screen throughout the program) by the FCC and along with the rating, codes are given to tell why it was rated.  And the RIAA places parental advisory stickers on music deemed offensive and sometimes explains why.  The opportunity to monitor a child's intake is there; most parents just don't use it.

So placing the blame on video games is unfair.  Placing the blame on society as a whole is the fair way.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: Shinya on November 27, 2006, 02:22:26 pm
You are who you are. Ultimately, you decide what your path is. This kind of "video games influencing kids" thing is just, figuratively, a bumpy and treacherous detour. In the end, you have to tell yourself whether you let yourself be thrown off or stay where you see is appropriate. I should know, I have lots of experience with  gory games. But did I shoot anyone? No. Did I go crazy and exhibit behaviors akin to Grand Theft Auto? No. Because I chose not to follow the path the violence and raunchiness was making for me.
Title: Re: Are Video Games A Bad Influence On Kids?
Post by: spongebob4lyfe on November 28, 2006, 04:51:49 am
I believe that games are a bad influence on kids.