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Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: MiraclrPlz on August 13, 2005, 07:34:32 pm
We are fighting an enemy far more evil than Hitler or Stalin.  Hitler is back, and this time it is in the form of a religion--Islamic Extremism.  You all know about the terror attacks in London.  How do we keep ourselves, the Americans, safe home and abroad?? Can you believe that MoronMayor Ballonburg of NY will have subways and what not the passangers checked but get this--yuh better sit down forthis, THERE WILL BE NO RACIAL PROFILING!  

Let's say you are looking for a needle in a haystack.  You'd NEVER EVER EVER find it.  But if you had one of MSP's supa magnets, you'd find it in a heartbeat.  And the magnet we need for the lives of Americans is racial profiling!  90-year old grandma's could be checked in the random searches as often as middle-easterners!!!  IT'S NOT 90 YEAR OLD GRANDMA TERRORISM!  IT IS ISLAMIC TERRORISM!  IT IS ALL THEM!  

We are going to be killed by liberalism!  It sounds awful but it must be done if you don't wanna get killed!  Of course not all muslims are carrying in bombs, but if you wanna find the threat, you have to check them!  Americans.  So liberal.  Thinking it's being judgemennntal.  .   You let gays run around it parades wearining tight leather pants and slapping themselves.  But ya had to tolerate it cuz ya didnt wanna be judgemennnntal.  And then your towers wen't down on 9/11 cause ya duidn't wanna be judgemennnntal. But it we get hit again like that, the American people will DEMAND IT!!!
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IZ on August 13, 2005, 07:38:48 pm
Racial profiling is disgusting because you're violating someone's rights because of the color of the skin and/or their heritage.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 07:38:55 pm
Msp? When did you get here?

On topic:

I agree. Sadly. Nobody is more evil than hitler though. And Racial profling is evil. Anything racist is evil.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IceFox on August 13, 2005, 07:39:10 pm
SOrry about my flaming.

Just read later on to see my opinion
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Compwhiz128 on August 13, 2005, 07:39:51 pm
Racial profiling just angers me, this is just like popularity at school.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 07:40:24 pm
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You seriosly need to stop drinking caffine beverages.
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Shut up with the jokes and get serious.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Isnt Anything on August 13, 2005, 07:41:20 pm
Ah jeeze. Settle down folks. I'm saying this early. If a MSP bashfest starts I'm closing the thread. End of story..
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IceFox on August 13, 2005, 07:42:19 pm
Well, MSP is being a freakin' rascist. ANy rascist needs to be bashed
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 07:42:39 pm
Yeah. Your guys are really mean to MSP even if he has been a jerk in the past hes not a insult chew toy. (Made no sense)

Edit; Sponge tron stop trying to start a flame war.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: spongemonkey13 on August 13, 2005, 07:43:45 pm
Racial Profiling=Not Coral. You can't judge people by apperance. I like to think that everyone is equal and that you can't assume that they are a terrorist with out sufficient evidence. There are some people who look really scary but are still a caring person. What if you were Muslim and they just assumed you were a terrorist? MSP, I rarely agree with you because you don't look at the whole picture.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on August 13, 2005, 07:44:55 pm
Ok, in a way he is somewhat right. Because Arabs are the ones doing terrorist attacks, then naturally they should be searched. If white women were doing the exact same thing, I'd want them searched too. To me it kinda makes sense, you can be nice and polite about it, and if they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem. If we want attacks to stop, then it is something we are going to HAVE to do.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Compwhiz128 on August 13, 2005, 07:45:12 pm
People stop bashin on MSP he has his opinions like you, you don't see him bashing on your opinions, your just not being an intellegent debater by bashin on someones opinions
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 07:46:17 pm
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People stop bashin on MSP he has his opinions like you, you don't see him bashing on your opinions, your just not being an intellegent debater by bashin on someones opinions
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You just bashed on him a few post ago.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IZ on August 13, 2005, 07:46:52 pm
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Ok, in a way he is somewhat right. Because Arabs are the ones doing terrorist attacks, then naturally they should be searched. If white women were doing the exact same thing, I'd want them searched too. To me it kinda makes sense, you can be nice and polite about it, and if they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem. If we want attacks to stop, then it is something we are going to HAVE to do.
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It's OK if say race is used as a lookout, but searching every single Islamic person is unconstitutional and immoral.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: MiraclrPlz on August 13, 2005, 07:46:58 pm
If I were semetic looking, I would be willing to give up some of my freedom, if being checked means giving up freedom.  We will get hit again as sure as I'm sitting here because of liberalism.  If any of you would like to see those pictures of people jumping out of buildings explodoing on 9/11, I'll show you if you pm me.  then tell me.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: spongemonkey13 on August 13, 2005, 07:48:20 pm
Look. I have nothing against MSP. I just disagree with some of his views. You can be a mature debater without bashing the person. This is why I usually stay clear of the Debate Den.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Compwhiz128 on August 13, 2005, 07:48:27 pm
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People stop bashin on MSP he has his opinions like you, you don't see him bashing on your opinions, your just not being an intellegent debater by bashin on someones opinions
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You just bashed on him a few post ago.
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Thats my opionion on racial profilling. If I was bashing on him it would involve flaming.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on August 13, 2005, 07:48:53 pm
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Ok, in a way he is somewhat right. Because Arabs are the ones doing terrorist attacks, then naturally they should be searched. If white women were doing the exact same thing, I'd want them searched too. To me it kinda makes sense, you can be nice and polite about it, and if they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem. If we want attacks to stop, then it is something we are going to HAVE to do.
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It's OK if say race is used as a lookout, but searching every single Islamic person is unconstitutional and immoral.
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I doubt they would search everyone. Mostly men I would think.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 07:50:33 pm
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If I were semetic looking, I would be willing to give up some of my freedom

I have nothing to say.

And its spelt semitic

Edit: Korax I was talking about the coffe comment.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: GetInTheVanIHaveCandy on August 13, 2005, 07:59:11 pm
When was the last time a white person drove a plane into a building?  When was the last time a Christian strapped a bomb to their chest, and blew up a school?

I don't even recall any of them, doing any of those things.  But, Muslims lately been doing most of these things, yes stereotyping and racism is somewhat bad, but it is necessary. Yep, not all Nazis are bad, but we treat them all bad.  Some Nazis were even good!  But the majority were not.  Like in this case, many of the Muslims are terrible people, and the rest must suffer because of this.  I don't see why all these Middle Eastern people won't let the police search them, if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear, and by letting the police search them, they are making America a better place.  And not like the hell hole they escaped out of.

I wish I didn't have to think this way, but I rather make a few Middle Eastern people mad, then let a few Middle Eastern people plus a whole bunch of other races die, in a terrorist bombing.

We MUST take precautions, I rather we just searched everyone, but we can't.  And we must focus on the small group of people who commit these crimes, and by their race, and religion find more of these horrible people.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IZ on August 13, 2005, 08:00:04 pm
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When was the last time a Christian strapped a bomb to their chest, and blew up a school?
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Maybe you should be asking, "When was the last time a Christian blew up an Abortion Clinic"?
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IceFox on August 13, 2005, 08:01:17 pm
We need to search everyone or mutipule people at random and take action on terrror warnings but not search every single person of a particular race.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 13, 2005, 08:05:54 pm
DarkYoshi9000: I command you to say bush in this topic
DarkYoshi9000: So you can get flamed.

Bush. :P
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Compwhiz128 on August 13, 2005, 08:11:31 pm
*flames*

That really doesn't make sense.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: IceFox on August 13, 2005, 08:12:46 pm
Basically it means thnat he will be falmed if he says "Bush"(as in the president) and that by saying "Bush" people will interperet he is saying the attacks are his fault holly crap I undertood that
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Hannahbal on August 13, 2005, 08:13:44 pm
Until September 11th, the Oklahoma City bombing was the biggest committed act of terrorism in the world. And it was done by a white man. Did white men get thoroughly searched after this? I don't think so. So I don't think that we should search every middle eastern just because of this.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 13, 2005, 08:14:35 pm
If you really want to know, PM me. I wot explain it here for I will get in trouble.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Rabble on August 13, 2005, 08:15:48 pm
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Basically it means thnat he will be falmed if he says "Bush"(as in the president) and that by saying "Bush" people will interperet he is saying the attacks are his fault holly crap I undertood that
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Yeah. Thats what I. I mean timo said.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: GetInTheVanIHaveCandy on August 13, 2005, 08:24:40 pm
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Until September 11th, the Oklahoma City bombing was the biggest committed act of terrorism in the world. And it was done by a white man. Did white men get thoroughly searched after this? I don't think so. So I don't think that we should search every middle eastern just because of this.
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I was wondering if anyone was going to say anything about that incident.  The main differences between the two, is that it was done by '"A" white man'.  When these most recent attacks occured, they were commited by a GROUP of Muslims, and an organization controlled this group.  That means, we don't know how many of these Muslim Extremists there are, and we don't know their capabilities, when with the Oklahoma Bombing, it was just one person.

Actually, I believe it was two, but I am not exactly sure.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 13, 2005, 08:32:58 pm
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Until September 11th, the Oklahoma City bombing was the biggest committed act of terrorism in the world. And it was done by a white man. Did white men get thoroughly searched after this? I don't think so. So I don't think that we should search every middle eastern just because of this.
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You wouldnt believe how many "jokes" there were about my name after that happened. WHY must I have the same first name as him -.-
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Hannahbal on August 13, 2005, 09:17:36 pm
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Until September 11th, the Oklahoma City bombing was the biggest committed act of terrorism in the world. And it was done by a white man. Did white men get thoroughly searched after this? I don't think so. So I don't think that we should search every middle eastern just because of this.
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I was wondering if anyone was going to say anything about that incident.  The main differences between the two, is that it was done by '"A" white man'.  When these most recent attacks occured, they were commited by a GROUP of Muslims, and an organization controlled this group.  That means, we don't know how many of these Muslim Extremists there are, and we don't know their capabilities, when with the Oklahoma Bombing, it was just one person.

Actually, I believe it was two, but I am not exactly sure.
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Actually, a man named Terry Nichols was involved, as were a few others. But Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were the main people.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Scilla on August 13, 2005, 09:25:15 pm
Oh gosh, if anyone knows about racial profiling.. its me. Hey! I'm the whitest black person ever! Get it?
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Jackie-Boy on August 14, 2005, 12:15:51 pm
I keep myself safe by not F'ing around with other countries.

I also brush my teeth every day and look both ways when crossing the street.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: UltraSpongeyDude on August 17, 2005, 01:42:12 pm
Dude, this is a racist topic. Just cause one guy bombed in london, dosent mean that everyone of the same faith are gonna bomb something here! Theres just as much chance that another person will have a bomb!

Oh yeah, and there is nothing wrong with gays! I myself am not gay, but there is nothing wrong with them.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2005, 01:51:33 pm
Racial Profiling is a way of life... yes it is mean... but be real for a second. When the government is looking for illegal immigrant who are often the suspects? Mexicans of course. Why? Because THEY are the majority of illegal immigrants in America. Unfortunately most of the terrorists HAVE been Islamic. It may sound mean but it is more common sense then anything. When you think of gangs what race do you think of? Black people of course. Mafia? The Italians. When you think of trailers what race do you affiliate with living in them? White people. Racial profiling is based on standard facts and evidence... I mean come on. What are the chances a 90 year old white lady is a terrorist?

Racism and racial profiling are different. Racism are unbased biases and judgements, whereas racial profiling are fact based evidence that a certain group of people behave and live a certain way. It is unfair but without it how would we catch all of these criminals, and terrorists? it would be just a wild man hunt. Racial profiling is unfortunate but necessary.

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Dude, this is a racist topic. Just cause one guy bombed in london, dosent mean that everyone of the same faith are gonna bomb something here! Theres just as much chance that another person will have a bomb!

Oh yeah, and there is nothing wrong with gays! I myself am not gay, but there is nothing wrong with them.
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This has NOTHING to do with homosexuality... in fact, you are letting your personal feelings get in the way... I suggest you either grow up or leave this thread immediatly. You're whining is getting quite irritating. And by saying there is as much of a chance someone else would have a bomb, you are saying that there is the same chance an Islamic terrorist and a elderly, crippled women would have a bomb.

Interesting theory there :rolleyes:
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: jojobird on August 17, 2005, 02:43:11 pm
dude, that's true, but the islams, sorry if any are here, (probably not you anyway), they only want their religion and that's it! They want to be the only religion on earth!
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2005, 04:26:29 pm
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dude, that's true, but the islams, sorry if any are here, (probably not you anyway), they only want their religion and that's it! They want to be the only religion on earth!
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You are thinking about the muslim extremists... Islamic is branched off of Christianity.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Lil Loco on August 17, 2005, 04:35:22 pm
Not really...Christianity iz based off the Bible...Islam iz based off the Quran.
Both faithz disagree with each other.

The only real connection iz that the man who started the Muslim faith waz a decendant of Abraham, a follower of God.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: MiraclrSpongePlz(temp) on August 17, 2005, 05:16:39 pm
Like i say if we get hit again, the American people will demand it.
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Post by: Rocko on August 17, 2005, 05:19:32 pm
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Not really...Christianity iz based off the Bible...Islam iz based off the Quran.
Both faithz disagree with each other.

The only real connection iz that the man who started the Muslim faith waz a decendant of Abraham, a follower of God.
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The 2 relgions are very closly related. Jeus is mentioned in the Quran, but he's just a propht. And they share many of the same storys. Islam is based off of chirstanity.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Lil Loco on August 17, 2005, 05:26:05 pm
All of christianity iz based off the believe that Jesus iz the son of God and the saviour of man.  The muslimz may mention him, but they have an entirely different view on him...and dont believe wut christianity or the bible haz to say.
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Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2005, 06:51:11 pm
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Like i say if we get hit again, the American people will demand it.
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A bit paranoid aren't we, Mikey? We haven't been attacked since 9/11... since then we have not been attacked in the United States at all.
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Post by: Rocko on August 17, 2005, 10:49:53 pm
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All of christianity iz based off the believe that Jesus iz the son of God and the saviour of man.  The muslimz may mention him, but they have an entirely different view on him...and dont believe wut christianity or the bible haz to say.
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They're from the same tree.  Christainity is based off of Judaism. Same with Islam.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Lil Loco on August 18, 2005, 09:15:30 am
Yea Christianity and Judaism are related cuz they share sum beliefz...Before Christ there were the followers of God which waz Judaism...Christianity spawned after Christ died and roze again...Christianity teachez that Jesus died for the sinz of man and through Him they can be saved...Sum followerz of the Judaist faith didnt believe that and stuck to their old traditionz...Thatz where Christianz and Jewz differ.  But they both believe in the old testament and are linked to each other.

Islam on the other hand, doeznt share similar teachingz and disagreez which both the Christian and Jewish faith.  So if it iz "from the same tree"...it fell far from the other two.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Sheldon J. Plankton on August 25, 2005, 04:32:12 am
Alright...

Racial profiling is sick and wrong and it does NOT work. First off the fact that you search maybe only 1 out of 50 guys lets 49 guys get away, and how do you know the guy you didn't search has weapons, and plus it's just a racist thing to do, also, just because someone is not of Middle Eastern descent doesn't mean they aren't Muslim, look at all the Muslim blacks, and people convert religions, and heck, what if a person wants to bomb something cause' they don't like it and they've got mental issues, NOT because they are Muslim, in fact, that person could come across like your average everyday middle of the road white guy. Thats why racial profiling doesn't work, and it's just wrong.
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Post by: Elizabeth Rose on August 25, 2005, 06:08:31 am
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Alright...

Racial profiling is sick and wrong and it does NOT work. First off the fact that you search maybe only 1 out of 50 guys lets 49 guys get away, and how do you know the guy you didn't search has weapons, and plus it's just a racist thing to do, also, just because someone is not of Middle Eastern descent doesn't mean they aren't Muslim, look at all the Muslim blacks, and people convert religions, and heck, what if a person wants to bomb something cause' they don't like it and they've got mental issues, NOT because they are Muslim, in fact, that person could come across like your average everyday middle of the road white guy. Thats why racial profiling doesn't work, and it's just wrong.
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But it's not just any Muslims, it's Arabic Muslims. They would be checking every Arab and it would work.
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Post by: IZ on August 25, 2005, 07:41:16 am
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Yea Christianity and Judaism are related cuz they share sum beliefz...Before Christ there were the followers of God which waz Judaism...Christianity spawned after Christ died and roze again...Christianity teachez that Jesus died for the sinz of man and through Him they can be saved...Sum followerz of the Judaist faith didnt believe that and stuck to their old traditionz...Thatz where Christianz and Jewz differ.  But they both believe in the old testament and are linked to each other.

Islam on the other hand, doeznt share similar teachingz and disagreez which both the Christian and Jewish faith.  So if it iz "from the same tree"...it fell far from the other two.
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Christianity, Islam and Judiasm all believe in the same God, the only difference is who they claim is the messiah.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: jojobird on August 25, 2005, 01:09:28 pm
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Yea Christianity and Judaism are related cuz they share sum beliefz...Before Christ there were the followers of God which waz Judaism...Christianity spawned after Christ died and roze again...Christianity teachez that Jesus died for the sinz of man and through Him they can be saved...Sum followerz of the Judaist faith didnt believe that and stuck to their old traditionz...Thatz where Christianz and Jewz differ.  But they both believe in the old testament and are linked to each other.

Islam on the other hand, doeznt share similar teachingz and disagreez which both the Christian and Jewish faith.  So if it iz "from the same tree"...it fell far from the other two.
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I think you're right.
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: Sheldon J. Plankton on August 29, 2005, 08:04:06 am
To add to MSP's whole "Christianity and Islam are not related" bull, you release "Alah" is Arabic or something for "God"
Title: Racial Profiling
Post by: lil`Sara on August 29, 2005, 09:22:19 am
I believe Racial Profiling is wrong. I think making authorities search every muslim/arabic person, because a group of muslim/arabic people decided that all of their problems were because of America, is wrong. It sucks to get judged by your race, and that's something I would know.
I wanted to say something in regards to Dragon Of Grief's comment.

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Racial Profiling is a way of life... yes it is mean... but be real for a second. When the government is looking for illegal immigrant who are often the suspects? Mexicans of course. Why? Because THEY are the majority of illegal immigrants in America. Unfortunately most of the terrorists HAVE been Islamic. It may sound mean but it is more common sense then anything. When you think of gangs what race do you think of? Black people of course. Mafia? The Italians. When you think of trailers what race do you affiliate with living in them? White people. Racial profiling is based on standard facts and evidence... I mean come on. What are the chances a 90 year old white lady is a terrorist?

Racism and racial profiling are different. Racism are unbased biases and judgements, whereas racial profiling are fact based evidence that a certain group of people behave and live a certain way. It is unfair but without it how would we catch all of these criminals, and terrorists? it would be just a wild man hunt. Racial profiling is unfortunate but necessary.

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Oh yeah, and there is nothing wrong with gays! I myself am not gay, but there is nothing wrong with them.
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This has NOTHING to do with homosexuality... in fact, you are letting your personal feelings get in the way... I suggest you either grow up or leave this thread immediatly. You're whining is getting quite irritating. And by saying there is as much of a chance someone else would have a bomb, you are saying that there is the same chance an Islamic terrorist and a elderly, crippled women would have a bomb.

Interesting theory there :rolleyes:
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First, racial profiling is "the consideration of race when developing a profile of suspected criminals; by extension, a form of racism involving police focus on people of certain racial groups when seeking suspected criminals" They are not "facts"
Second, i think a better word for what you described as 'racial profiling' in your first paragraph would be 'stereotypes' because they sound more like stereotypes than racial profiling to me.
Thirdly, it was MSP that said something about homosexuality in the first post...
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You let gays run around it parades wearining tight leather pants and slapping themselves.  But ya had to tolerate it cuz ya didnt wanna be judgemennnntal.
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...and I think UltraSpongeyDude was refering to that, instead of letting his personal feelings get in the way.