This is lame.Sometimes things have to lame for the sake of rebelling, m'friend.
I am not hostile against religion, and I'm, as you call me, Liberal. I just don't agree with your religion. I respect all religions. I think it's great people have something to believe in. Only thing I'm hostile against is people who go around trying to concert others.Well, I don't know about giving concerts but I dance for others.
The blue state oughtta secede from the union and the red states call themselves Jesus land.Dude, don't get so hyped up about blue states and red states, this whole election is all over!!!!
Another generalization. This one kid I talk to is a Conservative Democrat and we agree on quite a lot... except who should be in the oval office. Unfortunately MSP you are wrong.How can you be a conservative democrat?
*sigh* If abortion is made illegal, instead of going to a clinic where the child is aborted in a sanitary area done by professionals, women will try to do their own homemade abortions. Some of those can kill the woman as well.Abortion is going to be done at home anyway. If it wern't for Bush the morning after pill would be legal here.
Sometimes woman don't want babies and abortion is a fine solution to the problem especially when it's an accident. By the way Ronald Reagen was the first governor to make abortion legal.(Take that republicans.)
Religion has a lot to do with politics.That's what is wrong more than anything. The fact that people are going to have to live with laws just because some stupid religion thinks they're better than everyone and has to force their believes down peoples throats.
I don't do Christmas. This year, I'm celebrating Festivus. It's a completely non-denominational, non-commercial holiday. And, it's from Seinfeld. :biggrin::O You're going to do the feats of strength and stuff? You're my hero...
That's what happened in many countries in the mid east. They're laws are completely controlled be relgion.QuoteReligion has a lot to do with politics.That's what is wrong more than anything. The fact that people are going to have to live with laws just because some stupid religion thinks they're better than everyone and has to force their believes down peoples throats.
I mean that whether a person is Democratic, Republican, or other usually depends on their religion.QuoteReligion has a lot to do with politics.That's what is wrong more than anything. The fact that people are going to have to live with laws just because some stupid religion thinks they're better than everyone and has to force their believes down peoples throats.
*sigh* If abortion is made illegal, instead of going to a clinic where the child is aborted in a sanitary area done by professionals, women will try to do their own homemade abortions. Some of those can kill the woman as well.Maybe so, but more women have died via bleeding to death due to legal abortions than ever died from illegal ones. A woman can die no matter how they are performed.
Leave religion out of politics.You can't. They go hand in hand; like icing on a cake, or peanut butter and jelly. They are one thing, that, without them being together, the USA would fall; like all the other goverments that removed religion from politics.
I don't believe in God, so why should I have to follow laws that are there because some idiot people decided everyone should follow the same religion.QuoteLeave religion out of politics.You can't. They go hand in hand; like icing on a cake, or peanut butter and jelly. They are one thing, that, without them being together, the USA would fall; like all the other goverments that removed religion from politics.
You don't believe in God?! God is 100% real and if you don't follow him there will one day be great consequences.QuoteI don't believe in God, so why should I have to follow laws that are there because some idiot people decided everyone should follow the same religion.QuoteLeave religion out of politics.You can't. They go hand in hand; like icing on a cake, or peanut butter and jelly. They are one thing, that, without them being together, the USA would fall; like all the other goverments that removed religion from politics.
No, the government NEEDS to get rid of religon. Let's say I am not Christan, and I am gay. Now it's ban because of Christan. And I AM NOT CHRISTAN.Â
I am a Christian Democrat. I believe that men should never even speak about abortion. It ONLY rests on a woman's concience what she does to her body and what is in it. Make it so that women can only vote on the topic. I know men have a *hand* in the creation of a child, but the woman is the one who does the rest.
You don't believe in God?! God is 100% real and if you don't follow him there will one day be great consequences.Give me scientific proof.
I mean, they should not make any laws because of religon.QuoteYou don't believe in God?! God is 100% real and if you don't follow him there will one day be great consequences.QuoteI don't believe in God, so why should I have to follow laws that are there because some idiot people decided everyone should follow the same religion.QuoteLeave religion out of politics.You can't. They go hand in hand; like icing on a cake, or peanut butter and jelly. They are one thing, that, without them being together, the USA would fall; like all the other goverments that removed religion from politics.QuoteNo, the government NEEDS to get rid of religon. Let's say I am not Christan, and I am gay. Now it's ban because of Christan. And I AM NOT CHRISTAN.Â
You're crazy, the government can't get rid of religion and if it could it shouldn't.
I read that a blind man saw again once, and that he said that he saw again because of god.And I heard Santa and the Tooth Fairy were the head of the FBI.
I read that a blind man saw again once, and that he said that he saw again because of god.Miracles like that don't happen any more.
Give me scientific proof.
Yes, I do believe in Evolution. It's WAY more believable than some big powerful dude created us all.QuoteI read that a blind man saw again once, and that he said that he saw again because of god.ÂMiracles like that don't happen any more.QuoteGive me scientific proof.
But science is a bunch of barnacle heads trying to figure out useless information that won't help us. Do you actually believe we evolved from trilobites? You don't need scientific proof that God is real. Scientists believe in the Big Bang theory, which is even more idiotic than evolution. When something explodes, it doesn't make a planet. God made everything. Why don't you try to give me some proof that abortion is right?
Biblical evidence has been around a lot longer than scientific evidence, my friend.>_> We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. One animal evolved, and then it branched off to creating monkeys and humans.
If we evolved from animals such as monkeys, why are there still monkeys around? And how did the cells that supposedly turned into these monkeys come from if they had no creator?
And by the way, you should be a little more respectful to the "big powerful dude" who made you.
According to evolution we all evolved from fish. I myself don't see evolution as being probable at all. For me it is like Atheists not being able to see how a God created everything. I don't believe in evolution. I myself think it is total bullcrap. How else could have we come into existance? This planet, this endless universe of space? I don't think any silly science could explain that. And don't pull that big bang crapola on me either. Because a big bang never happened. God created us all and can destroy us all at his will wether you believe in him or not. I mean come on. Can you honestly believe we all evolved from fish and monkeys? It just isn't possible.o_O Then where did God come from?
Figuring out useless information that won't help us? Everyday scientists are developing new medicines and finding cures to diseases and illnesses that the people have acquired. If it weren't for science, the human race would have been swept out a long time ago.
But science is a bunch of barnacle heads trying to figure out useless information that won't help us. Do you actually believe we evolved from trilobites? You don't need scientific proof that God is real. Scientists believe in the Big Bang theory, which is even more idiotic than evolution. When something explodes, it doesn't make a planet. God made everything. Why don't you try to give me some proof that abortion is right?
God has always been. We find it hard to believe because we have a beggining and an end. God doesn't. God is forever. And all those other fake religions rooted off of Christianity anyways. Christianity is the one true religion.QuoteAccording to evolution we all evolved from fish. I myself don't see evolution as being probable at all. For me it is like Atheists not being able to see how a God created everything. I don't believe in evolution. I myself think it is total bullcrap. How else could have we come into existance? This planet, this endless universe of space? I don't think any silly science could explain that. And don't pull that big bang crapola on me either. Because a big bang never happened. God created us all and can destroy us all at his will wether you believe in him or not. I mean come on. Can you honestly believe we all evolved from fish and monkeys? It just isn't possible.o_O Then where did God come from?
Every religion believes they're right. What makes christianity right?QuoteGod has always been. We find it hard to believe because we have a beggining and an end. God doesn't. God is forever. And all those other fake religions rooted off of Christianity anyways. Christianity is the one true religion.QuoteAccording to evolution we all evolved from fish. I myself don't see evolution as being probable at all. For me it is like Atheists not being able to see how a God created everything. I don't believe in evolution. I myself think it is total bullcrap. How else could have we come into existance? This planet, this endless universe of space? I don't think any silly science could explain that. And don't pull that big bang crapola on me either. Because a big bang never happened. God created us all and can destroy us all at his will wether you believe in him or not. I mean come on. Can you honestly believe we all evolved from fish and monkeys? It just isn't possible.o_O Then where did God come from?
Christianity was first.YES. God exists, because when I pray most of the time it gets answered.
o_O Then where did God come fromHe's always existed. BTW, you should be more respectful to God.
Here's my question: What makes god real, but not Buddha, Allah, and the other gods fake?
Christianity was first.So? Just because it was first, doesn't make it real.
Not everyone believes/respects GodQuoteo_O Then where did God come fromHe's always existed. BTW, you should be more respectful to God.
No, that's not what makes it real. What makes it real is that it's real. Duh.QuoteChristianity was first.So? Just because it was first, doesn't make it real.
So if I think Buddhism is real, it makes it real?QuoteNo, that's not what makes it real. What makes it real is that it's real. Duh.QuoteChristianity was first.So? Just because it was first, doesn't make it real.
I am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
Plus, Miracles DO happen.
Here's my question: What makes god real, but not Buddha, Allah, and the other gods fake?
So if I think Buddhism is real, it makes it real?
Not everyone believes/respects God
How about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
So basically you're saying "omg im an idiot who can't back up my theories so i just say they're real"QuotePlus, Miracles DO happen.In Bible times they did. I guess they sort of do now, just not in the same ways, like being able to heal the blind by touching them is one thing that no longer happens.QuoteHere's my question: What makes god real, but not Buddha, Allah, and the other gods fake?There is only one god. All of these are merely "imaginary friends" that a bunch of idiots have thought up.QuoteSo if I think Buddhism is real, it makes it real?No. It isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of what's fact and what's not.QuoteNot everyone believes/respects GodThey should. He's real and science is just information made by humans.
And to the person who said that science isn't a bunch of junk, I didn't mean like technology and stuff. I meant like theories of evolution, Big Bang, andtrying to find out how old the Earth is. That stuff is useless. Besides, if scientists weren't so PIG-HEADED they would have realized that the history of the Earth is told in the Bible; and meanwhile they are wasting who-knows-how-much money trying to prove their own stupid theories.
I'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
Exactly. There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god.QuoteI'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
In 20 words or less, yes.Give some details please. No need for 1 word answers
Scientists have coral shoved in their frontal lobes. They think they're too smart to believe the simple truth.
Then why do you keep asking us to prove it?QuoteExactly. There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god.QuoteI'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
Because I'm trying to show you that.QuoteThen why do you keep asking us to prove it?QuoteExactly. There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god.QuoteI'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
Try to prove that there's air. You can't see it, smell it, hear it, or taste it.Oh yes, people being murdered and families losing parents. And let's not forgot kids being tortured throughout their school life.
And don't say that when it's cold you can see it, because you can see the work that God has done all around us in nature.
No you're not. You're trying to prove there isn't a God. If you were trying to show us that you just should've said "There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god." at the beginning.QuoteBecause I'm trying to show you that.QuoteThen why do you keep asking us to prove it?QuoteExactly. There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god.QuoteI'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
It wouldn't have mattered where he said it. It's still the same thingQuoteNo you're not. You're trying to prove there isn't a God. If you were trying to show us that you just should've said "There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god." at the beginning.QuoteBecause I'm trying to show you that.QuoteThen why do you keep asking us to prove it?QuoteExactly. There's no way to prove there is or isn't a god.QuoteI'm not saying you said science did it. I'm asking for proof that evolution happenedm just like IZ asked for scientific proof on God. Get the question straight before you speak. You guys keep asking questions to try and prove that God doesn't exist. I'm asking you to back up your theory.QuoteHow about you read my post before you ask that stupid question.QuoteI am not saying science did it. I am saying "god" did not create the world.I'm saying give me scientific proof that proves evolution happened.
Here's my question: What makes god real, but not Buddha, Allah, and the other gods fake?Whereas Christianity was not the first religion, belief in the one true God was first. Allah, Buddah, Zeus, etc... are all twisted forms of the real God. Man took something real and twisted it around a bit to make what he wanted.
I think there needs to be a lot more responsibility among people. If you do not want a kid don't have sex. There is a consequence for your actions. I am not saying babies are a punishment but people need to take into consideration that if they have sex they might become pregnant. It's that simple. If people would be more responsible then there would be a whole heck of a lot less abortions.Exactly. That's the best thing I've heard through this whole topic.
Give me scientific proof.
This topic (and many others) are giving me the feeling that some members are "anti-religious".That's almost like an MSP statement
Well at least it's just a feeling, and NOT telling them that the fact that they are. I don't think they are, but they give me the feeling of it.QuoteThis topic (and many others) are giving me the feeling that some members are "anti-religious".That's almost like an MSP statement
About evolution: On his deathbed, Darwin admitted that he had made up evolution.Yes, finally, someone with the ultimate proof that evoultion is FAKE!
is this scientifically thought up? or are you just enjoying insulting an 18 year old who has enough friggin proof with science fiction turning into the truth?He was telling a joke.
This is the Debate Den, your suppose to be serious here.Quoteis this scientifically thought up? or are you just enjoying insulting an 18 year old who has enough friggin proof with science fiction turning into the truth?He was telling a joke.
I am saying all the other religions came from Christianity. God created Christianity so there for it is the one true religion.QuoteChristianity was first.So? Just because it was first, doesn't make it real.
No, I was trying to prove a point in a joking manner. What it meant is evolution is false. Here's something else to disprove it: The sun shrinks 5ft. every year. in order for evolution to be true, millions of years ago when the earth was born, the sun would have long since en gulfed the earth.Quoteis this scientifically thought up? or are you just enjoying insulting an 18 year old who has enough friggin proof with science fiction turning into the truth?He was telling a joke.
But you have no proof!! Gee...if I wanted to believe in a prophet, I'd rather believe in Krishna. Krishna came long before Jesus ever came, and he taught the same stuff really...Pay attention in science, m' friend. You might learn stuff like that.
Who says Christianity is the one true religion? Jesus sure didnt! He was Jewish, not Christian...so really, I don't think Jesus would want a religion named after him...he wants to be HUMBLE.
JW...how can that be proven? You'd need to be at the sun measuring the circumfrence each year....looking at it in the sky isn't gonna do it...that could mean that the Earth got hit one too many times by meteors and is slightly askew now and is moving away from the sun...
God wants people to have free will. If there was no evil, and just good, we would just be like robots. Animals can't evolove from nothing. Example:QuoteTry to prove that there's air. You can't see it, smell it, hear it, or taste it.Oh yes, people being murdered and families losing parents. And let's not forgot kids being tortured throughout their school life.
And don't say that when it's cold you can see it, because you can see the work that God has done all around us in nature.
Yes...exactly...pay attention in science. Don't make me go back and take out that book about whales again. I'm sick of taking it out. The librarian keeps saying I need to read more stuff. It is SCIENTIFICALLY proven that whales evolved from land animals. They have...what's the word? Oh...right...fossils.No, it's not. It is not proven. No missing links have ever been found. All that proves is that whales and humans share similarities. It is not, and will never be, proven.
Yes, but you see, there's this concept that anything the human mind comes up with dealing with science can and will be proven. Star Trek is proof enough of that. Seriously. Scientists have actually made the beginnings of a transporter...
I have a word for that: hogwash. Scientists attempting the creation of transporters is not nearly the same as trying to prove a theory someone made up in La La Land.And creating a woman from a rib isn't something made up by someone in La La Land?! I can not believe that happened. It is PHYSICALLY impossible. And if you say it IS possible, through cloning, well, a) Cloning is against the Churches views and b) Cloning means just that. An exact replica.
I just think the Democrats should accept defeat more gracefully. They'd still be rubbin it in if that cad won!I wouldn't be rubbing it in anyone's face if Kerry won. And I accepted the defeat as gracefully as I could, completely unlike you would. Winning gracefully is as much as accepting defeat gracefully, and I can tell you that a sig that says "Take that hippy, four more years!" with a picture of Bush on it is far from graceful celebration of winning. Plus, you're still rubbing it in democrat's faces that Bush won, so being like you want other people to be... Fits in a situation like this.
Star Trek is proof enough of that.
Bush is now trying to convince Canadians we should help with his war. He quoted a prime minister and paused, waiting for applause...none came. BAHAHA!!He's asking Canada?! What an idiot.
ha i think we should kill bushSomebody already tried...kind of. I'm surprised MSP didn't bring it up.
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ha i think we should kill bushYou can go to prison for that. :dry:
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You want to protest Bush's win? Boycott Christmas.Hey, that first pic offends me! But, you libs are just soooo open minded. :happy:
It hits the religious right and it hits the corporate right.
It's brilliant.
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It's the whole secret origin of this movie.
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You can thank me later.
ha i think we should kill bushWow, how old are you, 4? I know 3 year olds more mature than that.
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Hey SQUIDWARD UNITED why don't you run around the streets yelling "Kill Bush?" It's what all the cool kids are doin'.So why aren't you out there...oh wait...you're not cool enough
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I'm sure you are... But we did have a mock election and I vote KERRY![snapback]134978[/snapback]
Well those were issues/problems. I mean the PERSON. That's the difference.Not to stir up the fire or anything, i just wanted to throw this out there. When approximately 100,000 civilians have been killed by the invasion of a country, some people would consider that an issue or problem. If people hate Bush, it's for more of a reason than just hating "the PERSON" as you say. For most people, it is really about hating the things that he does.[snapback]136175[/snapback]
Well Bush is just a pres. and The War and the "secret genocide" in the US is just an issue.[snapback]136339[/snapback]
QuoteWell Bush is just a pres. and The War and the "secret genocide" in the US is just an issue.[snapback]136339[/snapback]
So? I'm not going to let some idiot take away all my freedoms.[snapback]136393[/snapback]
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....and the only way you could solve that is to move to another country. In fact, we do have freedoms. You over-look them like everyone on this forum. You kids complain about gay rights. You complain about the war...blah....blah....blah. Let me tell you something, the fact that you can open your own business for yourself and not for the goverment is a blessing in its own right. Some kids your age in these other countries dont even know what candy tastes like. We have the right to be any religion we want. Notice that churches of all dominations are still up and running? That is a right all by itself. In some of these muslim countries if anyone of the residents are cought with Bibles are killed and if they are foreigners they are either deported or killed as well. Does that sound like much freedom? You may not agree with Christianity, but you do have the freedom to be any religion you want. Stop whining like a little brat. All of you, you guys dont realize how good we have it here. The poorest person in America has more than some in other countries.[snapback]136518[/snapback]
You just gotta except that the majority of Americans are Christians.QuoteQuoteQuoteWell Bush is just a pres. and The War and the "secret genocide" in the US is just an issue.[snapback]136339[/snapback]
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....and the only way you could solve that is to move to another country. In fact, we do have freedoms. You over-look them like everyone on this forum. You kids complain about gay rights. You complain about the war...blah....blah....blah. Let me tell you something, the fact that you can open your own business for yourself and not for the goverment is a blessing in its own right. Some kids your age in these other countries dont even know what candy tastes like. We have the right to be any religion we want. Notice that churches of all dominations are still up and running? That is a right all by itself. In some of these muslim countries if anyone of the residents are cought with Bibles are killed and if they are foreigners they are either deported or killed as well. Does that sound like much freedom? You may not agree with Christianity, but you do have the freedom to be any religion you want. Stop whining like a little brat. All of you, you guys dont realize how good we have it here. The poorest person in America has more than some in other countries.[snapback]136518[/snapback]
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That doesn't matter. Something is either right, or it is wrong. There is no such thing as "different morals for different people". By that logic I should be able to rape my neighbor because my religion, views, whatever you want to call it, see nothing wrong with doing so. I should be able to steal from the bank because I do not see that as wrong.[snapback]130305[/snapback]
QuoteYou just gotta except that the majority of Americans are Christians.QuoteQuoteQuoteWell Bush is just a pres. and The War and the "secret genocide" in the US is just an issue.[snapback]136339[/snapback]
So? I'm not going to let some idiot take away all my freedoms.[snapback]136393[/snapback]
....and the only way you could solve that is to move to another country. In fact, we do have freedoms. You over-look them like everyone on this forum. You kids complain about gay rights. You complain about the war...blah....blah....blah. Let me tell you something, the fact that you can open your own business for yourself and not for the goverment is a blessing in its own right. Some kids your age in these other countries dont even know what candy tastes like. We have the right to be any religion we want. Notice that churches of all dominations are still up and running? That is a right all by itself. In some of these muslim countries if anyone of the residents are cought with Bibles are killed and if they are foreigners they are either deported or killed as well. Does that sound like much freedom? You may not agree with Christianity, but you do have the freedom to be any religion you want. Stop whining like a little brat. All of you, you guys dont realize how good we have it here. The poorest person in America has more than some in other countries.[snapback]136518[/snapback]
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