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Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 17, 2004, 07:36:46 pm
how do you belive life on earth was started

how do you think we came from?

how did anything start?

any thoughts about this

how did life begin, there is no right and wrong answer

just want to know your views, you may question overs on their views but dont say they are wrong
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: foulpattie on August 17, 2004, 07:46:38 pm
wasn't it like small organisms that evolved into an ape and they evolved into humans or something.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2004, 08:07:44 pm
It was started by god. God created everything one by one which took exactly a week, but each day was 1,000 years long. God then created Adam and Eve who then reproduced and soon the Earth had life. He created animals and plants for the humans to eat.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: MEEP! on August 17, 2004, 08:09:09 pm
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It was started by god. God created everything one by one which took exactly a week, but each day was 1,000 years long. God then created Adam and Eve who then reproduced and soon the Earth had life. He created animals and plants for the humans to eat.
Bingo! You're our big winner!  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: IZ on August 17, 2004, 08:13:24 pm
When the gases created the universe, some gases created life forms, and they evolved from there.
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Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2004, 08:23:22 pm
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When the gases created the universe, some gases created life forms, and they evolved from there.
Haha. That couldn't be less true :sleep:  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: IZ on August 17, 2004, 08:24:48 pm
o_O

Why do you say that?  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 17, 2004, 08:29:42 pm
God created the universe. And the univers is eternal. You see, scientists are trying to elad us to think some stupid explosion created the universe which is a croc of BS. God created everything. Without god, there would be nothing. Just void.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: MEEP! on August 17, 2004, 08:30:00 pm
I sense a flame war. God created everything. I'd love for some of you guys to read some parts of my science books from the past few years.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: IZ on August 17, 2004, 08:31:45 pm
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God created the universe. And the univers is eternal. You see, scientists are trying to elad us to think some stupid explosion created the universe which is a croc of BS. God created everything. Without god, there would be nothing. Just void.
You don't realize, I don't really believe in God.
 
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Isnt Anything on August 17, 2004, 08:55:20 pm
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how do you belive life on earth was started

how do you think we came from?

how did anything start?

any thoughts about this

how did life begin, there is no right and wrong answer

just want to know your views, you may question overs on their views but dont say they are wrong
Jesus Christ.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Daniel on August 17, 2004, 09:38:11 pm
Meep, Scooter, Isn't Anything are RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 18, 2004, 02:31:47 am
lots of diferent ideas here

some take the scientific aproch

which is full of logical explanaitions

some take the religous aproce

which is mainly about faith

there are not right or wrong answers, and you shouldnt say anyone is wrong unless you know and can prove what the answer is
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: livestoSURF on August 18, 2004, 05:03:18 am
Well there are many explimations, but only God knows the true one.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 18, 2004, 06:41:32 am
that is if there is a grand creator of some sort

but who created the creator?
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: MEEP! on August 18, 2004, 07:47:01 am
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that is if there is a grand creator of some sort

but who created the creator?
I've heard it said, "God has no beginning and no end."  :cool:

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I don't really believe in God.
*gasp* Kevin, how could you?  :ohmy:  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: IZ on August 18, 2004, 07:59:08 am
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but who created the creator?
EXACTLY.

They're are too many un-answerable questions about religion and god. It's impossible to prove.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: MEEP! on August 18, 2004, 08:03:03 am
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EXACTLY.

They're are too many un-answerable questions about religion and god. It's impossible to prove.
But what created the "gases created the universe"? There are lost of questions from both sides of this. Soon I should post somethings about this.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 08:09:44 am
Humans are evolved plants meaning that we are organic, meaning that we came from the earth!
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Post by: IZ on August 18, 2004, 08:13:58 am
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but who created the creator?
EXACTLY.

They're are too many un-answerable questions about religion and god. It's impossible to prove.
But what created the "gases created the universe"? There are lost of questions from both sides of this. Soon I should post somethings about this.
Exactly. It's agnostic. It's where you believe there's no possible way to prove either way.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 08:15:47 am
They have already proven that we came from Papyas!
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 18, 2004, 09:32:12 am
no you havnt

you have just said thats where we came from, unless you have solid evidence then nothing is certain

and how can somthing logicaly have not begining?

for nothing can start without a begining and if there isnt a start how can there be a middle or an end
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 09:55:41 am
Look in the May edition of Discover Magizine. Its in there, the Papyas male chromizone is almost identical to humans! Meaning we must had desenced from a Papya.


And Papyas come from plants, and plants come from the earth, so we came from the earth...do you get it now?
 
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Post by: AppleNick on August 18, 2004, 11:11:36 am
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It was started by god. God created everything one by one which took exactly a week, but each day was 1,000 years long. God then created Adam and Eve who then reproduced and soon the Earth had life. He created animals and plants for the humans to eat.

Exactly.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Patrick on August 18, 2004, 01:27:37 pm
God created everything. It;s proven that there's more evidence that Jesus walked the Earth than Ceaser. A lot of people said the "big bang". It's where two atoms hit or something. Well then, who created the atoms. Or who created those "gasses"?
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 18, 2004, 01:38:23 pm
ok

so where did the earth come from for the papya to form

and where did the idea of a creator come from anyway?
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: MEEP! on August 18, 2004, 01:48:51 pm
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and where did the idea of a creator come from anyway?
Here's one thing I have to say regarding that quote and this whole topic. In almost every country or culture, there is belief of a higher being. Now if there was no higher being (God), then where would this idea come from? That idea had to be put in there heads somehow and the only way it could be there is if there is one higher being. God created everything and we are just beginning to notice how great everything has been designed for us.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Patrick on August 18, 2004, 01:57:24 pm
Think of life. Could gasses or the big bang create such complicated life forms?  
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Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 18, 2004, 02:30:12 pm
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God created the universe. And the univers is eternal. You see, scientists are trying to elad us to think some stupid explosion created the universe which is a croc of BS. God created everything. Without god, there would be nothing. Just void.
You don't realize, I don't really believe in God.
Well, I don't really believe in science. I still respect your opinion, Kevin but I don't agree with it.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on August 18, 2004, 02:31:22 pm
God made us all, and everything okay. I just think that gases and stuff are all just nothing but a statement to me.  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: spongehead 32 on August 18, 2004, 05:38:38 pm
ok, so many of you belive in a creator of some sort

fine, sure, theres no problem with that

and other belive we originated as natural organisms

again no problem with that

ok, the perpouse of this topic has just been fulfiled, thankyou
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Scilla on August 18, 2004, 06:22:36 pm
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God created the universe. And the univers is eternal. You see, scientists are trying to elad us to think some stupid explosion created the universe which is a croc of BS. God created everything. Without god, there would be nothing. Just void.
You don't realize, I don't really believe in God.
SATAN WORSHIPER

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GOD. DUH
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Post by: IZ on August 18, 2004, 06:57:48 pm
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God created the universe. And the univers is eternal. You see, scientists are trying to elad us to think some stupid explosion created the universe which is a croc of BS. God created everything. Without god, there would be nothing. Just void.
You don't realize, I don't really believe in God.
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GOD. DUH
I'm not a Satan worshipper....

Church as we know it today is a scam. There's nowhere near enough evidence to prove or disprove a god.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: GIR on August 18, 2004, 07:00:37 pm
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that is if there is a grand creator of some sort

but who created the creator?
no one its hard to explain :huh:  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Starr2k3 on August 18, 2004, 07:02:51 pm
I sorta believe in god. But I don't see how the heck he got created so that he could create the world. Give me some good proof and I might believe it. And by good proof I don't mean something from the bible.
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Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 08:58:54 pm
Okey...I am Romen Catholic in all...but it is sort of hard to believe in god contitering the facts!
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Post by: Starr2k3 on August 18, 2004, 09:03:26 pm
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Okey...I am Romen Catholic in all...but it is sort of hard to believe in god contitering the facts!
Thats what I'm saying.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 09:29:46 pm
Finnally! Someone who agrees with me!
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Post by: Dragon Of Grief on August 18, 2004, 09:34:02 pm
I could seriously go on about this non-stop. Kevin doesn't worship Satan because he doesn't believe in god which is a common misconception about non-religious people. Satanism is STILL a religion. And Satanists believe in god. They just despise, and hate him. And I don't believe in church either. In fact I haven't gone to church for years. I don't like the way they preach. I prefer to stick with my own beliefs about god.
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Post by: Squiddy on August 18, 2004, 09:37:02 pm
Same with me...what is the point of church....worshiping in a group of people....I rather do it in private by myself!
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Post by: spongehead 32 on August 19, 2004, 04:04:10 am
guys, there are no wrong answers

so stop arguing with each other of what you think is right
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 19, 2004, 08:05:55 am
I don't really care about this topic...I just rather join in on  a friendly little agument!
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Hannahbal on August 19, 2004, 03:56:19 pm
I don't know how the earth started..

I don't know if there is a God, or there isn't.

I think some things are not meant for humans to know.

I agree with Kevin, you cannot prove or disprove that there is a God, since nobody really knows for sure, it cannot ever be proven.
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Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on August 19, 2004, 06:04:13 pm
I already know that there is a God, because everything like from miracles to certain religious times out in Rome or some place depending on you're religion.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Squiddy on August 19, 2004, 06:24:38 pm
I think that the most BELIEVABLE religion is Buddisium....there are no gods, and it is all about self peace and your one self!
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Post by: ShantiLuva on August 19, 2004, 09:16:16 pm
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Meep, Scooter, Isn't Anything are RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah.. they are :mellow:  :huh:  
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Daniel on September 06, 2004, 07:50:52 pm
What I'm saying is: God always exited. He will always exist.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Sb129 on September 06, 2004, 08:04:59 pm
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how do you belive life on earth was started

how do you think we came from?

how did anything start?

any thoughts about this

how did life begin, there is no right and wrong answer

just want to know your views, you may question overs on their views but dont say they are wrong
A looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago space was very hot then a big BOOM!Then the planets were made.It took 100 of years for earth to cool down.Once it was cool enough the first organism was made.Then  worms & jelly fich are made &  then  billions of years later wer'e here.God did exsist.
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 06, 2004, 08:25:26 pm
I'm a Christian...I believe in God
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Post by: GIR on September 07, 2004, 05:53:44 am
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how do you belive life on earth was started

how do you think we came from?

how did anything start?

any thoughts about this

how did life begin, there is no right and wrong answer

just want to know your views, you may question overs on their views but dont say they are wrong
A looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago space was very hot then a big BOOM!Then the planets were made.It took 100 of years for earth to cool down.Once it was cool enough the first organism was made.Then  worms & jelly fich are made &  then  billions of years later wer'e here.God did exsist.
nah what do you think they ment by he is the "beggining" and the end
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 07, 2004, 06:19:46 am
Shouldn't this be in the "deeper discussions" forum?
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Post by: Greg on September 07, 2004, 07:03:12 am
God created us end of convo :P
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 07, 2004, 07:06:07 am
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God created us end of convo :P
I believe that and all but not everyone does ;)
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Post by: Greg on September 07, 2004, 07:07:55 am
Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 07, 2004, 07:08:29 am
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
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Post by: Greg on September 07, 2004, 07:13:00 am
Yeah i know...

There findind even MORE stuff to proove that its wrong
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Post by: MEEP! on September 07, 2004, 08:59:27 am
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Shouldn't this be in the "deeper discussions" forum?
Yes it should. And now it is. God created everything. I don't know how people can say that such a perfectly designed world could be made by and explosion.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: DoomBringer316 on September 07, 2004, 12:15:26 pm
Hmm, it's nice and all to agree with people about what your beliefs are, but personally, I don't really think you should be saying things like 'blah blah blah are RIGHT end of convo' and stuff, because quite frankly, no one knows the answer.

I personally do not wish to affiliate myself with any type of organized religion (I have my reasons...), but that doesn't make me not believe in a god. Of course, that doesn't make me believe in one either. I'm more of a scientific person than a religious person really.

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Here's one thing I have to say regarding that quote and this whole topic. In almost every country or culture, there is belief of a higher being. Now if there was no higher being (God), then where would this idea come from? That idea had to be put in there heads somehow and the only way it could be there is if there is one higher being. God created everything and we are just beginning to notice how great everything has been designed for us.

Well, I have a few points on this one, take them how you will. First, let's say you are the leader of a nation way back when. What's an excellent way to control the people, and bring order to your nation? Introduce the people to a concept that solves something unknown, with a benefit for believing in it. No one knows about the after life; maybe no one ever will. But introducing a working solution will get people to listen, to obey, because there's a reward at the end- an afterlife (in most religions). The promise of a wonderful life after life, in a lot of people's minds, is worth the trouble of giving money to the church, praying every so often, and following the guidelines written in a 'holy scripture'. Think about the Ten Commandments for a second. Wow, what a great way to not have people maim eachother in your society. No killing, no stealing, basically a ban on anything deemed evil, right? Hmm, interesting. The threat of a horrible afterlife if the rules aren't followed is another incentive to do the right thing. And the best part is, once people believe in the religion, others can be converted, so the beliefs spread throughout the world. Another interesting note that I'd like to bring up in regards to the quote is the number of different religions that have formed. Maybe it's just me, but when I see differing religions that have qualities ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic, from belief in afterlife to belief in reincarnation, it makes me think that there's something astray. Why isn't there one set religion, one that everyone agrees on? Which one is right? Just some questions to be pondered.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 07, 2004, 12:30:32 pm
Well, who created god? Did god create himself? How? There are too many unanwsered questions. I sorta believe in god but mostly, no I don't believe in him.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: Rabble on September 07, 2004, 05:00:00 pm
God made earth in a big vast unviurse it was only a spec .
God first created Life One of the first Things hecreated was Protist but when the walked on land THey would Die And burn So god sent teh underWat£r then god Came up with an idea to Make An Layer to proctectearth it was callled this so called "Ozone layer" after that he noticed that These Protist Started to die and So created mroe anaims taht ned o kill one anaiamal to survive know as today teh "Food chain"  i'll type teh rest later terid.
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Post by: Starr2k3 on September 07, 2004, 05:09:46 pm
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yeah.. they are :mellow:  :huh:
All of you please, how did he?
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Post by: Squiddy on September 07, 2004, 05:29:41 pm
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God created us end of convo :P
Sure he did.....how??
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 07, 2004, 06:54:49 pm
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God created us end of convo :P
Sure he did.....how??
Eh...ever heard of the Bible? You might wanna take a glance...
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Post by: DoomBringer316 on September 07, 2004, 07:21:36 pm
How can you say the Bible is proof of God's existence?
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Post by: cmonkey on September 08, 2004, 03:16:23 pm
I could write my own bible, form my own country, isolate it from the world, feed people my ideas and scripture from the day they are born, and they would grow up believing entirely in it, willing to give thier lives for something that doesn't exist.  If they became unisolated, they would claim anyone who did not follow thier religion was a blasphemer and would be going to ::Dolphin Noise::, or would be reincarnated as a toad, or whatever utterly rediculous fate my bible listed for people who did not put thier "faith" into it.  To me, religion is bogus.  There are two reasons for religion.  The first is to explain the unexplainable.  Since the beginning of civilization, people have been surrounded by the unknown.  As they were unable to explain thier surroundings, they believed that some "supernatural" force controlled it.  That is why the first gods were gods of fire, wind, food, the ocean, the moon, etc.  As each mystery was solved, gods became obsolete.  Science is the opposite of religion.  Religion depends on faith, science depends on facts.  faith. facts. faith. facts. faith. facts.  which to believe?  Well, there are only a few unsolved mysteries left.  Life and death.  How does life begin, what makes something alive, can life be created?  What happens when life ends?  Those are questions that science may never be able to solve.  Notice, I did not deny the existance of a god figure in the universe.  I have no way of proving that one exists or does not exist.  I simply belive that religion is fake.  The second use of religion is control.  Just as Niccolo Machiavelli wrote, a ruler should use religion as a tool to unite his people and control them.  Religion controls all aspects of life.  Rulers control religion.  Therefore, a ruler can control his people by forcing relgion onto them.  Well, I'm done.
Title: The Start Of Life
Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on September 08, 2004, 03:19:37 pm
I believe in God that made us all. Science has a disadvantage, most of Science facts are still yet to be proven. Besides how do we know if they're is a "big bang" if no living was there at the time.  
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Post by: Starr2k3 on September 08, 2004, 03:20:51 pm
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I believe in God that made us all. Science has a disadvantage, most of Science facts are still yet to be proven. Besides how do we know if they're is a "big bang" if no living was there at the time.
How do we know if god made it if no one was alive.
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Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on September 08, 2004, 03:27:45 pm
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I believe in God that made us all. Science has a disadvantage, most of Science facts are still yet to be proven. Besides how do we know if they're is a "big bang" if no living was there at the time.
How do we know if god made it if no one was alive.
It's because God gave us evidence of his existence after he created Adam and Eve. Religion and many other things.
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 08, 2004, 04:48:18 pm
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I believe in God that made us all. Science has a disadvantage, most of Science facts are still yet to be proven. Besides how do we know if they're is a "big bang" if no living was there at the time.
How do we know if god made it if no one was alive.
It's because God gave us evidence of his existence after he created Adam and Eve. Religion and many other things.
We all have different opinions but I believe 100% that God created us all. Science only clones people...
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Post by: Gideon Brown on September 08, 2004, 05:31:50 pm
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It's because God gave us evidence of his existence after he created Adam and Eve. Religion and many other things.
what proof? something that was written down by humans? maybe it was some neanderthal that ate a plant that caused him to trip, which caused him to 'have a vision' There is no proof...which is why religion is a FAITH. Duh.
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Post by: Sb129 on September 09, 2004, 12:02:29 am
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
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Post by: Patrick on September 09, 2004, 04:16:34 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
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Post by: AppleNick on September 09, 2004, 04:17:05 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
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Post by: Starr2k3 on September 09, 2004, 04:41:40 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
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Post by: Greg on September 09, 2004, 09:22:41 pm
lol the people that made up evo are finding stuff wrong with it
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Post by: cmonkey on September 10, 2004, 04:11:50 am
Of course, it's science.  Until something is proven, it is a theory.  Theories are changed.
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Post by: DoomBringer316 on September 10, 2004, 08:31:18 pm
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lol the people that made up evo are finding stuff wrong with it

Just out of curiousity, do you think people haven't found discrepancies in the Bible?
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Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on September 15, 2004, 02:43:11 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.  
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Post by: Starr2k3 on September 15, 2004, 02:45:41 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.
Who created god. >_<
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.
Who created god. >_<
I think that should be a mystery....
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Post by: Starr2k3 on September 15, 2004, 03:33:30 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.
Who created god. >_<
I think that should be a mystery....
Because he does not exist? >_<
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Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on September 15, 2004, 05:24:59 pm
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.
Who created god. >_<
I think that should be a mystery....
Because he does not exist? >_<
No, because there is NO record of it all.

Besides God is Almighty meaning "no beggining and no end".  
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Yeah i can't believe people think that a explosion created us O_O
What the...explosions kill...not create
What my post mean the boom created paticles.
Then what created the boom?
The particles... He just explained that.
What created the particals?
God. So everything has to made folks.
Who created god. >_<
I think that should be a mystery....
Because he does not exist? >_<
No, because there is NO record of it all.

Besides God is Almighty meaning "no beggining and no end".
Exactly. No records, so how could of god existed if there was no records? Some crazy guy wants to say god doe everything?