Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:12
There is a little more in the passage that I will type if y'all want (haha, as if), but this is the main part, the part I am am talking about.
Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:12
There is a little more in the passage that I will type if y'all want (haha, as if), but this is the main part, the part I am am talking about.
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Agreed.
Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:12
There is a little more in the passage that I will type if y'all want (haha, as if), but this is the main part, the part I am am talking about.
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I've actually seen a few on TV that are priests...but I cant figure out what place in the US
All humans are equal.
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exactly, that is a very mature and wise point.
Humans are all equal, it doesn't matter what gender you are or what race you are.
You're still human.
People who degrade the opposite sex should be beaten sencelessly until they can actualy think for themselves.
Yes, but, many things in the Bible aren't followed any longer. For instance, women are ACTUALLY equal. The Bible was written by HUMANS, and even if God was telling them what to write, no matter what, it is STILL filtered through a human with biased opinions.
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Just because people don't follow them doesn't automatically make it right to not follow them. The Bible says not to murder, but people still murder, and that doesn't make it right. And the human opinions weren't completely biased (I actually don't know what that word means, but I'm guessing it means twisted or changed), because the Gospel is the same thing written from different points of view, and they are very similar to each other.
The Bible is clearly against women priests/pastors/etc... Women are not supposed to have high places of power within the church.
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Saint Paul also said do not let women speak in the Churches. It is a discrace to He to let women speak in the Churches. I'm not saying I'm sexist or anything, but in God's eyes men are worth more than women. I'm not saying he loves men more. I don't know what God thinks. Who knows.
Well put. There you have it.
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Could it be? MSP actually agrees with someone!!
Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
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That is exactly why I don't like what the bible says.
Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
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That is exactly why I don't like what the bible says.
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So everyone obeys EVERYTHING the Bible says? Interesting
Where in the Bible does it say about being against women priests?
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It says women aren't to have power within the church. Priesthood would be included under power I think.
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That is exactly why I don't like what the bible says.
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So everyone obeys EVERYTHING the Bible says? Interesting
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Doesn't explain why they are nuns in existence.
God doesn't think men are worth more than women, He just knows that men are better at certain things than women and vice versa.
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And women are better at certain things than men, yet they are not noticed for it.
Explain that. :mellow:
God doesn't think men are worth more than women, He just knows that men are better at certain things than women and vice versa.
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And women are better at certain things than men, yet they are not noticed for it.
Explain that. :mellow:
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I actually notice more stuff about that then the other way around...yet I dont say a thing when I do notice
Haha. I'm Christian, but definiately not a Catholic. I don't follow the Bible whatsoever, but I still believe in a higher power. A woman can't be a priest..haha. I really don't believe anything Catholic.
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If you don't mind me asking, how can you be a Christian and not follow the Bible?
Well put. There you have it.
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Could it be? MSP actually agrees with someone!!
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you found a way to make fun of msp when he did something good. :biggrin:
as much as this hurts me to say: yeah msp is right
Nuns rock they are close to God and all.
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If women can become nuns then why not priests?
Nuns rock they are close to God and all.
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If women can become nuns then why not priests?
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Priests and Nuns are 2 different things
For the past 20 centuries, there has never been a woman priest, or "priestess". His Holiness, Pope John Paul II has already decided apon this. It will never ever happen EVER. Jesus was a man, not a woman, therefore it would be very strage to have a woman represent Christ. Pope Pius the XII said that women can not ever become priests because they do not look like Jesus. Ok I admit that wasn't that good of an explanation. It is hard to explain what God wants. There will NEVER be a woman priest. God will strike dead any Pope who even dares think of the idea. However, that kind of Pope could never be elected, because The Holy Ghost intervenes with the election of Pope. It has already been infailibly stated by the Holy Father(and no Catholic can question the infailibility of the Pope) that there will never be a woman priests. Who knows how long the battles in The Church between the Conservatives and the Liberal minority prospers.
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God should strike the catholic priests dead for being a bunch of child molestors... not the ones who makes women priestesses.
NOW YOU TAKE THAT BACK TYLER! You ain't dissn' my Church! Not the Catholic Church! 99.99999999999999% of all preists are good devout men, well, even if there are a few liberal preists, there are hardly no child molesting preists. What about 10 or 20 out of the trillions of preists in the last 20 centuries? And Father Majeski, on of the original child rapists who started all this non-sence, died in prison last year. Good I'm glad he did. He made us Catholic's Father's out to be jerks! He was choked to death. Anyone who molests kids, the guards would not care about you. They proabably let it happen. And as for the woman preists thing, that has already been decided by The Holy Father.
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MSP is po'd
Im agreeing with tyler and kevin
NOW YOU TAKE THAT BACK TYLER! You ain't dissn' my Church! Not the Catholic Church! 99.99999999999999% of all preists are good devout men, well, even if there are a few liberal preists, there are hardly no child molesting preists. What about 10 or 20 out of the trillions of preists in the last 20 centuries? And Father Majeski, on of the original child rapists who started all this non-sence, died in prison last year. Good I'm glad he did. He made us Catholic's Father's out to be jerks! He was choked to death. Anyone who molests kids, the guards would not care about you. They proabably let it happen. And as for the woman preists thing, that has already been decided by The Holy Father.
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[girly voice]Aww naw you didnt![/girly voice]
I think I speak for all when I say: "suck it up"
No the ones prosecuted DID commit the crimes. I never said they didn't. In truth, statistics show there are more Protestant Ministers that rape little kids that Catholic Preists. That is a statistically proven fact.
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MSP, I live in Cincinnati and everyday I hear about new rape charges from my local Catholic Church everyday. These preists despite being servents to god should burn in heck for hurting inocent children.
NOW YOU TAKE THAT BACK TYLER! You ain't dissn' my Church! Not the Catholic Church! 99.99999999999999% of all preists are good devout men, well, even if there are a few liberal preists, there are hardly no child molesting preists. What about 10 or 20 out of the trillions of preists in the last 20 centuries? And Father Majeski, on of the original child rapists who started all this non-sence, died in prison last year. Good I'm glad he did. He made us Catholic's Father's out to be jerks! He was choked to death. Anyone who molests kids, the guards would not care about you. They proabably let it happen. And as for the woman preists thing, that has already been decided by The Holy Father.
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Your idea of god is so twisted and distorted it doesn't make sense... you just don't want to face the truth that your precious catholic priest is a kiddie fiddler... a regular old holy Michael Jackson!
No the ones prosecuted DID commit the crimes. I never said they didn't. In truth, statistics show there are more Protestant Ministers that rape little kids that Catholic Preists. That is a statistically proven fact.
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Show me your proof you nutjob. What a crock of lies.
The Preists who molest children are also the one who want women preists.
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Give it up Mikey. You were just PWNED to the umpteenth degree... quit while you are still breathing.
MSP, you're one of the biggest babies I've ever meet. You'll say stuff like "All liberals need to die" and then when someone insults your culture, you'll start PMSing to the fifth power.
Nice post Tyler. :biggrin:
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Thanks Kevin :biggrin:
No the ones prosecuted DID commit the crimes. I never said they didn't. In truth, statistics show there are more Protestant Ministers that rape little kids that Catholic Preists. That is a statistically proven fact.
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Show me this statistic.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....LE_ID=26955That (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26955That) is one of many articles that note a statistically proven fact that Protestant ministers molest little kiddies more. And BTW, Catholic Priests don't molest kids. Sick *CENSORED* do. Gay men are oh my God so definitly not allowed to become Priests. Therefore the sick freaks that do it became 'priests' by lying. Therefore their membership to the priesthood is invalid. Because God does not approve of gays and the things they do. There I won the debate ten-fold case closed. You shout all this liberal crap and I'm supposed to go oooooh i'm licked! BUT I'M NOT I DONT CARE WHAT ANY LIBERAL HAS TO SAY!!
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LMFAO. Just because you don't agree with it it makes it "Liberal Crap"? HAHAHAHA. Earth to MSP! I am Conservative! Just face the facts. No other religion has ever had so many sexual abuse cases. These preists are full sworn priests. You are just trying to hide the truth, by reversing the facts and saying Protestant minsters molest kids too. Give it up Mike. You are fighting a losing battle. YOU LOSE.
Don't you know the Church's teachings on Homosexuality? A homo has a better chance of getting into the army than becoming a preist if the Bishop knew about it. You red-diaper-doper-babies just like to lie and distort the truth to make people feel guilty about being conservative. Tyler, if you ain't a lefty, quit doing their handy work. YOU LOSE BIG TIME. Especially Catholic Preists molesting kids is sooooo rare and more Protestant ministers do it. YOU LOOOOOSE. End of argument.
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^ Sinner ^ :biggrin:
Don't you know the Church's teachings on Homosexuality? A homo has a better chance of getting into the army than becoming a preist if the Bishop knew about it. You red-diaper-doper-babies just like to lie and distort the truth to make people feel guilty about being conservative. Tyler, if you ain't a lefty, quit doing their handy work. YOU LOSE BIG TIME. Especially Catholic Preists molesting kids is sooooo rare and more Protestant ministers do it. YOU LOOOOOSE. End of argument.
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You can't prove that MSP. How many Protestant ministers have been on the news for molesting children? Huh? And who says I am doing their handy work? I am just proving you wrong like the confused little boy you are. And all that proves is the Catholic Church is one big hypocrit. Man you suck at this.
If SSS was a better Catholic, he'd take my side.
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HAHAHAHA!!! I am a better Catholic, by not complaining, showing-off, and bashing Liberals. Even if I was a "better Catholic" like you I wouldn't take your side. Plus the Catholic Church NEVER EVER IN IT'S ENTIRE HISTORY condemned Liberalism, so Liberalism isn't a sin. Plus, I'm neither a Conservative nor a Liberal. I'm like the complaint from both sides.
He is what you call an extremist... he will never quit. He is just so obsessed his views are distorted and facts are twisted.
Agreed. :rolleyes:
If defending Priests is a sin, than God does not exist. The Catholic Church conquers all Liberalism in it's every ugly and malicious form. I can't stand how Liberals want to destroy all religion, including allowing evoultion(the THEORY THAT IS FALSE that says man came from the ape,not from God) be taught in schools. Liberals are like communists, and if I'm not mistaken(I'm NOT mistaken) atheism is part of the Communist Philosophy. You see, with religion allll gone, it will be eaisier for the Liberals to take over. But religion is never going away! Christ said he'd be with His Church until the end of time. Not being Conservative or Liberal means being Liberal. If SSS was a better Catholic, he'd take my side. Instead he is calling me a sinner even though Tyler was saing YOU LOSE first. Defending Christ is not a sin. It is the complete opposite.
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You are not holy, you are not good, you are NOT HEAVENLY! Justin is just smart enough to see that you are chock full of bullsh*t. He isn't the one going around judging people. And you are doing nothing but defending a bunch of child molestors. What kidn of good catholic stands up for child molestors? You're a sick boy Mike... a SICK boy.
I just showed you an article about the Protestant Ministers doing it more. Google search it yourself. It's a statistically proven fact. How dare you say My Religion is one big hypocrisy! That's like saying ethnic minorities suck because some of them commit crime! The whole races suck because some of them commit crime! That is the exact same thing! There I won the debate.
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Dude. I won a long time ago. Give it up. The article is trash.
So i guess articles from a news site is trash. Now SSS is saying the Catholic Church isn't perfect. God, would you want the Pope to hear you talking like this? Before you ever say anyhting, think: Would the Pope like what I'm saying? Tyler, I guess that's just your way of saying I won the debate. I never said no distorted facts. I don't post no distored facts. Just statistically proven facts. God, wern't wern't red-diaper-doper-babies discraced enough when Bush won? God they're still flappin' their yap.
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1. Ty and everyone else vs. You, the final result: You lose.
2. The pope WOULD NOT like what YOUR SAYING.
3. Even my priest said that no religion is perfect, as long as we pray and forgive and be moral, we can all be good Catholics, but right now MSP all you're doing is bashing Liberals on a daily basis, and calling Islam a hate religion which is something that not even God would want from you.
There I've said it.
No, leave it alone Justin... it's like talking to a brick wall. He thinks he is perfect so let it be. Just never mind.
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Yeah, he lost anyway so....besides I was just doing some last min. adjustments.
Your idea of god is so twisted and distorted it doesn't make sense... you just don't want to face the truth that your precious catholic priest is a kiddie fiddler... a regular old holy Michael Jackson!
That made my night. LMAO! :biggrin:
I don't think I'm perfect. I know my views are right. I mean seriously original sin? Everyone was born with it except teh Virgin Mary!
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Oh my, do you really believe that the Virin Mary was without sin? What a messed up child indeed.
God, wern't wern't red-diaper-doper-babies discraced enough when Bush won? God they're still flappin' their yap.
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You know, shut the hell up for once. You act all holy because you're a Republican. If John Kerry had won the election, I can guarantee you'd be crying and kicking/screaming like a baby for the next eight years. That's one of the many problems with the Republican Party; they automatically assume protesting the government is communistic and anti-american. You should never have to lay down and accept an unjust thing in the world. You can only be a doormat if you lay down.
God, wern't wern't red-diaper-doper-babies discraced enough when Bush won? God they're still flappin' their yap.
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Why do you have to invite politics into religious debates?
God, wern't wern't red-diaper-doper-babies discraced enough when Bush won? God they're still flappin' their yap.
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You know, shut the ::Dolphin Noise:: up for once. You act all holy because you're a Republican. If John Kerry had won the election, I can guarantee you'd be crying and kicking/screaming like a baby for the next eight years. That's one of the many problems with the Republican Party; they automatically assume protesting the government is communistic and anti-american. You should never have to lay down and accept an unjust thing in the world. You can only be a doormat if you lay down.
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IZ, I kinda agree with you, but broke the rules and bypassed the language filter and said the word ::Dolphin Noise::. Not a good example.
You should of seen the convo between him and my friend Erich last night. Hahaha. It was hilarious.
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What do you mean?
God, wern't wern't red-diaper-doper-babies discraced enough when Bush won? God they're still flappin' their yap.
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You know, shut the ::Dolphin Noise:: up for once. You act all holy because you're a Republican. If John Kerry had won the election, I can guarantee you'd be crying and kicking/screaming like a baby for the next eight years. That's one of the many problems with the Republican Party; they automatically assume protesting the government is communistic and anti-american. You should never have to lay down and accept an unjust thing in the world. You can only be a doormat if you lay down.
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IZ, I kinda agree with you, but broke the rules and bypassed the language filter and said the word ::Dolphin Noise::. Not a good example.
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Meh, it was the only way to get my point across.
MSP is one of the reasons why I left Conservatism.
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MSP is the reason why I can't stand to be around conservitves.
i got kind of confused when you people started using eachothers names... whos mike, whos justin, and whos tyler :wacko: i dont even remember if i got the names right
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Justin = sss
Tyler = Dragon Of Grief
Mike = msp
I sort of agree with IZ for the first part of his rant, but it's not like all republicans think that protesting the government is anti-America.
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I wasn't refering to all Republicans, only the extremists (which the organization praises by the way, they've told moderates to get out of their party.)
Of course Elizabeth Rose that the Blessed Mother was concieved without original sin and was without sin from the moment of her conception until the moment of the assumption.
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Sorry, my boy. I ain't buying that. Mary was just as human as anyone else. I don't believe God made her sinless. If I may ask, (and I mean this nicely, I promise) what makes you think she was sinless? I have never studied anything that provided evidence as to why she would be.
Even Jesus sinned... to not sin is impossible.
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Evidence?
NOTHING is perfect. Look around you! You are blinded by something a priest has said, because the Bible never said Jesus never sinned. I mean, look at what he did at the temple. He threw a fit because they were selling stuff!
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Okay, he did that to tel those people to "stop turning my father's house into a marketplace!". The people selling in that temple were the sinners, Jesus was just displining them, and displine itself is a virtue. Thus...no sin. Man, I felt like MSP in that post...
No, I am proving something, it's too bad you can't listen.
Discipline does not include throwing tables around.
Believing one man was ultimately perfect...god...that's so....illogical, to quote spock.
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Well some people in your point of view like, flooding the whole world isn't discipline either, but it is. As you look at it, throwing tables maybe discipline because it teaches a lesson in a way.
Let me just say this...
I believe in Christianity and that Jesus is perfect and he never sinned. You believe otherwise. We're going to argue back and forth and everyone else is. Why do we still bother to do this if we never will agree on ANYTHING.
The end O_o;;
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It even said in the BIBLE he sinned Timo. You need to do your research a little more carefully. He did resist Satan, but if you read he doubted GOD his OWN father! I am a Christian myself, but even a minister once told me Jesus wasn't perfect.
Not really...it just supports scaring people and violence. That's what I learnt in that story. Violence is okay.
>_>
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There is a time and a place for everything, even violence.
Dragon...you...and I...are agreeing? WAH!! Lol!
It doesn't take a non-believer to know the truth...any person who thinks Jesus was perfect in every way...that's a person who doesn't know religion.
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Haha, has a certain hot, firey, place frozen over yet :tongue:
But right... Jesus was not perfect. End of story. Anyone who thinks he was perfect doesn't know their religion very well.
NOTHING is perfect. Look around you! You are blinded by something a priest has said, because the Bible never said Jesus never sinned. I mean, look at what he did at the temple. He threw a fit because they were selling stuff!
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The Bible never said he didn't sin specifically (As far as I know, it might have) but find a place where it said he did sin.
If not for voilance, we'd still be occupied by the British.
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if I lived near you, i would seriously kill you for saying that.
What is wrong with the brittish!? *sharpens her knife*
because the Bible never said Jesus never sinned. I mean, look at what he did at the temple. He threw a fit because they were selling stuff!
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Hebrews 9:28 - So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Matthew 21: 12 - 13 - And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
He turned over the tables in the temple because they had turned it into a marketplace. They had turned the holy place into a marketplace. What Jesus did was not sin.
The whole reason Christ died on the cross was because He was without sin. We needed a perfect sacrifice, and He was that.
If not for voilance, we'd still be occupied by the British.
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if I lived near you, i would seriously kill you for saying that.
What is wrong with the brittish!? *sharpens her knife*
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Put it this way: There's nothing wrong with the British, but I prefer to have the United States as it's own country.
Sean: How do you know all those Bible verses?
I can't believe Sarah's SpongeBob Shrine has never heard of the Revolutionary War.
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You do realize that's not the same Sarah... o_O