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Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Snowthrower on August 03, 2005, 08:38:05 pm: Quote
As soon as the press found out that Microsoft, forced by the Firefox’s ascension, will release a new version of the Internet Explorer browser, everybody has started to wonder what effect this will have on the “fox that has put the Internet on fire”.

Lots of users started to pity the cruel fate of Firefox, which won’t stand a chance against the new 7.0 version of Internet Explorer.

Since March, when the first details on Internet Explorer 7.0 were announced and until the first beta, Microsoft has been very careful about disclosing information on the new browser.

But the time has come for Microsoft
to release, together with the first beta of Windows Vista, the fist beta of Internet Explorer.

What was the public’s reaction? Perhaps nobody could have said it better than Paul Thurott, renowned Windows expert and supporter, who has an article at this address http://www.windowsitpro.com (http://www.windowsitpro.com).

Actually, Paul Thurott has only one thing to say: “My advice is simple: Boycott IE. It's a cancer on the Web that must be stopped. IE isn't secure and isn't standards-compliant, which makes it unworkable both for end users and Web content creators. Because of their user bases, however, Web developers are hamstrung into developing for IE at the expense of established standards that work well in all other browsers. You can turn the tide by demanding more from Microsoft and by using a better alternative Web browser. I recommend and use Mozilla Firefox, but Apple Safari (Macintosh only) and Opera 8 are both worth considering as well.”

In conclusion, the battle between Firefox and Internet Explorer 7.0 is postponed indefinitely, or at least until Microsoft’s programmers will accept that there are standards in this world that have to be complied with.

Softpedia has decided to wait for the next beta version, before posting the review for Internet Explorer 7.0.

A horrible article, but I love it! A Microsoft activist says to boycott IE :biggrin:
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Rabble on August 03, 2005, 08:45:49 pm: That has to be the stupidiest thing I have ever heard.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: VulturEMaN on August 04, 2005, 04:00:17 am: Even though I don't use Firefox, it does make sense...
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: williambob286 on August 04, 2005, 04:31:43 am: Hmmm, I renamed the IE in my start menu to Under Inspection.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Banana on August 04, 2005, 07:47:58 am: Windows is so stupid. I just had to laugh at that article.

-Banana
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Compwhiz128 on August 04, 2005, 09:39:20 am: Just proves to tell you how much microsofts IE is insecure, but hopefully it will be WAY better when 8.0 comes out :tongue: but I highly doubt it.
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Post by: williambob286 on August 05, 2005, 02:31:06 am: Hmm, I want a Mac soon. But no store has Mac that I know :(. So I'm stuck with windows.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 07, 2005, 10:07:33 pm: Apple.com has macs :P
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 07, 2005, 10:10:24 pm: You'll be surprised by the millions of people who still use IE7 over Firefox when it comes out :)
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 07, 2005, 10:41:01 pm: Ok. Ive been IE 6.0 with not addons. And it works fine. No spyware no viruses nuttin. And it has a nice interface
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: timstapels on August 07, 2005, 10:50:05 pm: Quote
You'll be surprised by the millions of people who still use IE7 over Firefox when it comes out :)
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What would people be using if Microsoft didn't bundle IE with their OS's?
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Snowthrower on August 08, 2005, 11:32:18 am: Quote
You'll be surprised by the millions of people who still use IE7 over Firefox when it comes out :)
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You'll be surprised by the millions of people that switch to Firefox because of IE7, even Microsoft enthusiasts are saying this. Just look at Paul Thurrott. Remember, IE comes on every computer, users have to manually download Firefox. Also: In about 9 months, Firefox has been downloaded 75 Million times. Does that say something?
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 08, 2005, 05:14:37 pm: Quote
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You'll be surprised by the millions of people who still use IE7 over Firefox when it comes out :)
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You'll be surprised by the millions of people that switch to Firefox because of IE7, even Microsoft enthusiasts are saying this. Just look at Paul Thurrott. Remember, IE comes on every computer, users have to manually download Firefox. Also: In about 9 months, Firefox has been downloaded 75 Million times. Does that say something?
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That was one guy that said that IE7 sucks. Unless you can find MILLIONS more that say that...these people will stick with ie7
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: partiallynothing on August 08, 2005, 10:09:11 pm: Want proof of the people who dislike IE7, take a look at the comments on ALL the posts of the official IE7 blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/ (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/).

Enjoy!

EDIT: A good example of a post which has stirred some comments can be found here: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/2...2.aspx#comments (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx#comments) or here: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/2...4.aspx#comments (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/27/444004.aspx#comments).

Many people are unhappy.

ssj4gogita4, why must you continuously support a corporation which has only recently started the IE development team because of Firefox and Opera. They would have sat around and said that it was just fine had it not been for the favorable reception of Firfox. You want to support a company that does not do anything to further their users' experience until another company makes them?

If you like IE, that is fine, but accknowledge the downfalls of the Microsoft stance that once they are the best, they no longer should try to improove.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 08, 2005, 10:49:54 pm: IMO, Microsoft has no downfalls. They work fine for me. Everything works fine for me. I could care less that you have to download virus programs, spyware programs, etc. It doesnt take up more than 20mb on your computer and thats not even much. I enjoy the time Microsoft brought to the digital era. If it wasnt for them, you wouldnt be using linux, mac (the later versions), firefox, opera, etc.

And remember that you'll never get me to change my mind :P
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 09, 2005, 01:08:21 am: Actually you would have not had old apple either. Bill Gates did a lot of coding for them. I still prefer Linux and Apple over Windows, but recently actually IE6(and not 5 like i used to) I really really like it. And i can live with no tabs. I'll just hit CTRL+N
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 09, 2005, 08:11:43 am: That's why I put the later versions of apple.
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Post by: Roger on August 09, 2005, 09:57:15 am: Quote
IMO, Microsoft has no downfalls. They work fine for me. Everything works fine for me. I could care less that you have to download virus programs, spyware programs, etc. It doesnt take up more than 20mb on your computer and thats not even much. I enjoy the time Microsoft brought to the digital era. If it wasnt for them, you wouldnt be using linux, mac (the later versions), firefox, opera, etc.

And remember that you'll never get me to change my mind :P
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Actually, if it wasn't for XEROX, you wouldn't be experiencing this stuff. Bill Gates didn't come up with the technology Windows was built upon, Xerox did. Gates virtually pirated their technology and got away with it.
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 09, 2005, 10:18:29 am: Bill Gates brought computers into this world, basically. Everyone started buying one when Windows came out.
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Post by: Roger on August 09, 2005, 10:20:26 am: Quote
Bill Gates brought computers into this world, basically. Everyone started buying one when Windows came out.
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Bill Gates didn't bring computers into the world, but the second part of your statement is right.

Computers were used before Gates was born, so he didn't bring them into the world, just the mainstream.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 09, 2005, 10:22:52 am: Quote
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Bill Gates brought computers into this world, basically. Everyone started buying one when Windows came out.
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Bill Gates didn't bring computers into the world, but the second part of your statement is right.

Computers were used before Gates was born, so he didn't bring them into the world, just the mainstream.
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What I meant was he brought the more POPULAR computers into the world. I know he didnt START the first computer.

Make sense? I'm confused on what I just said as well xD
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 09, 2005, 01:06:15 pm: I think your saying that Bill Gates brought the popularity of computers into the world wshen he released Windows.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Snowthrower on August 09, 2005, 04:25:15 pm: Quote
IMO, Microsoft has no downfalls. They work fine for me. Everything works fine for me. I could care less that you have to download virus programs, spyware programs, etc. It doesnt take up more than 20mb on your computer and thats not even much. I enjoy the time Microsoft brought to the digital era. If it wasnt for them, you wouldnt be using linux, mac (the later versions), firefox, opera, etc.

As far as everything works fine for me: Try Windows ME, BSoD's. Are those fine? No there not. They dont even work fine for Bill Gates (http://www.StupidVideos.com/?VideoID=191)

As far as Linux: Wrong! Linux is a derivitive of UNIX. Linus Torvalds wrote the original Linux kernel BEFORE the first Windows. BSD is also

As far as downfalls: *coughs*Exploits*cough*

As far as Firefox: Firefox was based off the Gecko rendering engine, IE is based off of Mosaic. Netscape was the first internet browser and it used the Gecko rendering engines. Just because there isnt a mainstream product doesnt mean there wont be other software. Just look at the programs on Download.com, tons of programs there dont have mainstream support, yet there are still several programs.

As far as Macs: Explain why Macs couldnt have gone from the OS to OS X? Many programs evolve even though they are under no pressure to completely change. Its exactly how many websites change there layouts, they might not need it, but they wanted to change the style. So how could Mac OS not exist without Windows?
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 09, 2005, 07:21:15 pm: Quote
I think your saying that Bill Gates brought the popularity of computers into the world wshen he released Windows.
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Thank you. I couldnt find the right words for it. :)

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As far as everything works fine for me: Try Windows ME, BSoD's. Are those fine? No there not. They dont even work fine for Bill Gates (http://www.StupidVideos.com/?VideoID=191)

As far as Linux: Wrong! Linux is a derivitive of UNIX. Linus Torvalds wrote the original Linux kernel BEFORE the first Windows. BSD is also

As far as downfalls: *coughs*Exploits*cough*

As far as Firefox: Firefox was based off the Gecko rendering engine, IE is based off of Mosaic. Netscape was the first internet browser and it used the Gecko rendering engines. Just because there isnt a mainstream product doesnt mean there wont be other software. Just look at the programs on Download.com, tons of programs there dont have mainstream support, yet there are still several programs.

As far as Macs: Explain why Macs couldnt have gone from the OS to OS X? Many programs evolve even though they are under no pressure to completely change. Its exactly how many websites change there layouts, they might not need it, but they wanted to change the style. So how could Mac OS not exist without Windows?
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XP works fine for me. I've NEVER tried anything else in years so XP is fine for me. That's why I'm sticking with it :)
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 09, 2005, 07:24:31 pm: I dont like WinXP as much as Apple or Linux, but it still works amazing for me! I love it. It only died once but thats cuz i never updated my Norton.
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Post by: ssj4gogita4 on August 09, 2005, 07:46:12 pm: Quote
I dont like WinXP as much as Apple or Linux, but it still works amazing for me! I love it. It only died once but thats cuz i never updated my Norton.
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I wouldnt mind a mac so much if they had a different mouse. I cant stand the one-click mouse. It's so evil. That's why I hate macs. Oh...and the interface of it.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: IceFox on August 09, 2005, 11:21:50 pm: The i dont like the interface too much either. I also hate the one clicks, but the little circular mluses are soooooooooo cool. That new 'Mighty Mouse' thingy or whatever it calls is awsome though.
Title: Hello, Firefox! `Cause Internet Explorer 7.0
Post by: Snowthrower on August 10, 2005, 11:59:36 am: You can buy other mouses for Macs, all mouses that work on Windows work on Macs. Besides, the Mac doesnt have a one button mouse, it has a two button it just looks like its one button, on default its enabled to act like one button, but you can go into your options and change it to two buttons.
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Post by: aussiman37 on August 11, 2005, 04:59:51 pm: fire fox stinks no offence i barely use it and those pop ups of giving out info and stuff is fake..... so im sorry but i will have too report that post it can hurt peaple and make them scared.....
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Post by: Isnt Anything on August 11, 2005, 05:03:53 pm: I'm so sick of flames about IE and Firefox. I've seen quite a few threads now. It seems like it happens when one of them comes out with a new version or patch...