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Off Topic => Everything Else => Debate Den => Topic started by: Bozy426 on September 16, 2004, 11:40:52 am
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yes easyly
ahh well i will let u guys work this one out
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Ah! Confusing!
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It technically makes a vibration in the air that could become a sound if there was an ear to hear it. Otherwise...nope! lol
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I hate that question.
Of course it does.
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Yes, it makes a noise.
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Ever watch Family Guy? The episode where Peter needs to find himself and have a guiding spirit and talk to nature? Yeah...one of the trees answers this question
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Yes. The vibrations do not require an ear to make a sound.
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No, Charliez Fallen Angel stole my words...
I could not say it any better.
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Yes. The vibrations do not require an ear to make a sound.
technically, IZ, sound is something our ears make out of vibrations. Without any vibrations there would be no sound, and without our ears detecting the vibrations the way they do, we wouldn't be hearing them. Thunder is a good example. The vibration rolls out. So you don't hear the thunder right away because the vibrations are moving slowly toward you. And when it's really far away you can't hear it at all because the vibrations aren't strong enough to reach you.
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It does.
Well, someone far away is making a noise, and I don't hear it. But it's still making a sound. I hardly find this a debate topic.
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Of course it does. This isn't even a debateable question. Just because no one is around doesn't mean it doesn't make a sound.
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that's the thing, sound is something our brain makes so we know what the vibrations are. otherwise its just a vibration. hence, in space no one can hear you scream. because it is a vacuum your ears don't pick up the vibrations the way you do on Earth.
For instance, echolocation...dolphins don't hear the clicks they make bouncing off of things, it bounces back and they FEEL it. Same with bats.
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Yes, this is debatable.
It DOES make a noise. And Charliez Fallan Angel is saying it straight to your face and you can't understand it...
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Well, this is debatible, Charliez Fallen Angel is who agree with, i think. I6t is jsut a viberation, that needs something to transmit the sound into 0Not just ears, tape records and stuff too)
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heh....well technically, you get the vibraitons on tape, and then again, your ears translate it. Anatomy and biology are such weird things. What I'm trying to say is that when a tree falls in the forest, it makes the potential for sound.
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No, because if no one is there to hear it, how CAN it make a noise? YOU hear the vibrations, which is sound, so, its utterly impossible.
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No, because if no one is there to hear it, how CAN it make a noise? YOU hear the vibrations, which is sound, so, its utterly impossible.
Exactly what I'm saying!! :biggrin:
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Of all the things to debate, we had to pick this... :lol:
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Sound
Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.
~taken from dictionary.com
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Sound
Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.
~taken from dictionary.com
Ah ha! So it doesn't have to be heard.
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it makes a sound that cant be heard
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Eh...isnt that a double negative?
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Sound
Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.
~taken from dictionary.com
Ah ha! So it doesn't have to be heard.
Yes capable! Without an ear, it's still a vibration! It's the potential...it's a sound when heard.
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Now i am sure. I do agree with Charlies Fallen Angel.
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Vibrations capable of being heard by traveling through a medium, not by whether or not there is a set of ears available, I assume. It lists the range of human hearing also to show that the vibration must fall between them to be considered a sound.
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Vibrations capable of being heard by traveling through a medium, not by whether or not there is a set of ears available, I assume. It lists the range of human hearing also to show that the vibration must fall between them to be considered a sound.
So if a dog can hear it, but we can't it's not a sound? I find that very arrogant of human beings. "If we can't hear it, it ain't real."
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So, charliez fallen angel, are you saying: Yea, it does make a noise OR No, it does not make a noise.?
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No it does NOT make a noise.
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So, charliez fallen angel, are you saying: Yea, it does make a noise OR No, it does not make a noise.?
I'm saying that it makes the possibility of a sound if some form of listening device were there. So if there was no device, then no. It didn't make the sound, just the vibrations.
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So if a god can hear it, but we can't it's not a sound? I find that very arrogant of human beings. "If we can't hear it, it ain't real."
Uhh... what? I think you totally missed the point. You do realize the definition of sound was made by humans in the first place, correct? Sound is being described as relative to humans, not to some other creature or being. That's why they gave the human hearing range in the definition to begin with.
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Pffft. It's arrogance. You're saying that only humans can hear, and that's total bull.
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Eh...isnt that a double negative?
no its not double negatives
its saying that it dose make a noise
though none of us can hear it
so it makes a sound that cant be heard
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Of course it does. You don't have to hear something for it to have made a sound. You don't have to see something for it to be visible.
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unless you are thinking about it in terms of yourself
if you cant hear somthing then there is no sound to you
if you cant see somthing then then it is not visibal to you
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Of course it does. You don't have to hear something for it to have made a sound. You don't have to see something for it to be visible.
Read this thread and then say something. >_>
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I say it won't make a sound. And DoombRinger got his mod powers back hoorah!
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I've thought, and YES.
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Yes, it's total arrogance because I'm reading you a DEFINITION of the word. Would you like to point out to me where I said that only humans can hear? Maybe next time I'll be more courteous and include every creature ever when I define something for you.
Um, wow. I simply answered the question that this whole thread was about. Sorry if you misinterpreted what I said, but it had absolutely nothing to do with what you or anyone else said. And I never said that you said only humans can hear.
:mellow:
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It does.
Well, someone far away is making a noise, and I don't hear it. But it's still making a sound. I hardly find this a debate topic.
Yea, well, when you talk, you are only making vierations, but you can hear it, ONLY because your ears are around to transmit the sound. So, say if i lost my brain, i would not be able to hear anything. So, still, i say, it makes a NO sound, only viberations, unless something is able to hear it. Oh, yeah, and this is debatible.
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Think of a guitar.
Using the strings and it will make vibrations that go into the ear and it will translate to a sound;.
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It does.
Well, someone far away is making a noise, and I don't hear it. But it's still making a sound. I hardly find this a debate topic.
Yea, well, when you talk, you are only making vierations, but you can hear it, ONLY because your ears are around to transmit the sound. So, say if i lost my brain, i would not be able to hear anything. So, still, i say, it makes a NO sound, only viberations, unless something is able to hear it. Oh, yeah, and this is debatible.
Tree falls and no one is around...still makes a noise as it hits the ground...vibrations are so stupid...
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It does.
Well, someone far away is making a noise, and I don't hear it. But it's still making a sound. I hardly find this a debate topic.
Yea, well, when you talk, you are only making vierations, but you can hear it, ONLY because your ears are around to transmit the sound. So, say if i lost my brain, i would not be able to hear anything. So, still, i say, it makes a NO sound, only viberations, unless something is able to hear it. Oh, yeah, and this is debatible.
Tree falls and no one is around...still makes a noise as it hits the ground...vibrations are so stupid...
They may be "stupid" but it's true.
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yep. agreed.
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Also the drums. Just think about it...
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Tree falls and no one is around...still makes a noise as it hits the ground...vibrations are so stupid...
I dunno...if you ain't got the vibrations, you ain't got the sound.
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Um, wow. I simply answered the question that this whole thread was about. Sorry if you misinterpreted what I said, but it had absolutely nothing to do with what you or anyone else said. And I never said that you said only humans can hear
Um, that wasn't directed towards you.
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Well PS2k3 had to tell me to re-read the thread, and then you were saying something about complete arrogance... sorry about the confusion. :wacko:
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He was referring to me. I'm not saying YOU're saying what you wrote out. It's humans. Yeah, I hate my species. We're out to kill everything, and ourselves too.
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I voted no sound,
If no one is around then who's to say that the tree even fell.
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Well, I say No Sound, but ESP, if spme1 comes later, and sees the ree fell, then, they cna say it did. Ands, yeah, it makes no sound, IMO
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I voted no. How can you be it makes a sound if no one hears it?
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I voted no sound,
If no one is around then who's to say that the tree even fell.
>_>
Thats not the question...
We KNOW it fell. Did it make a noise? Thats the question...
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This is a stupid question, no offense x.x Yes of course it does, there's nothing "deep" about a friggin tree falling over.
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of course it would make a sound because technically it does everything mkes a sound when it fall exept a fe ther or a piece of paper
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This is a stupid question, no offense x.x Yes of course it does, there's nothing "deep" about a friggin tree falling over.
Well, if you read the whole topic you can see how sounds are really vibrations that go through the human ear and translate to sound..
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of course it would make a sound because technically it does everything mkes a sound when it fall exept a fe ther or a piece of paper
Those technically both make sounds, but they are really hard to hear.
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Yeah. If a tree falls in the woods, it need viberations, so yes, techinicly it makes NO sounds.
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Of course it makes a sound. There were vibrations which means that there was noise?
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Of course it makes a sound. There were vibrations which means that there was noise?
No, no, no.
Vibrations MAKE a noise when they go through the human ear. If no human ear, no sound.
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Okay then let me change my stance. This isn't a deep topic, it's a technical topic x.x
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It is a vibartaion. A Human Ear Needs To Recieve The Vbarations to Translate them. The tree makes viberation, but it does not make sound unless a human ear can recieve the sound. Acclutluy, animal ear too.