Funny you should ask (literally your post was kinda funny especially the WET part), anyways it's because the whites (Yeah I am one), are the majority and the minority gets offended by the majority, maybe that's how it goes for some reason, but I think the real reason is because that if you look into history is that we've caused alot of the racism, maybe that's the reason. Besides there is some racist Blacks, Asians, etc. who don't like the other minorities or the majority.
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accually here in houston it's getting to be the opposite
Funny you should ask (literally your post was kinda funny especially the WET part), anyways it's because the whites (Yeah I am one), are the majority and the minority gets offended by the majority, maybe that's how it goes for some reason, but I think the real reason is because that if you look into history is that we've caused alot of the racism, maybe that's the reason. Besides there is some racist Blacks, Asians, etc. who don't like the other minorities or the majority.
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accually here in houston it's getting to be the opposite
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Not in like 20 years or so....
First of all, Hispanic people... you are STILL WHITE. You just are mixed in with Indian blood. So if you are half White and half Hispanic... you're White.
But I can't help but agree with this statement. It is true. Hispanic History Month, Black History Month, but not White History Month? The worst thing these days you can be is a middle to upper class heterosexual White male... everything these days is designed to make minorities feel more comfortable. One thing I really despise is how Black people get scholarships for being Black, Hispanic people get scholarships for being Hispanic but White people don't get scholarships for being White.
I am in no way racist at all. My best friend is Black. I just think it is unfair that us white people don't get the benefits minorities do.
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I've got to agree with you on the scholarship thing, they should be given on the bases on how smart someone is not by the color of his or her skin. Dr. King wanted eqaulity, NOT special treatment.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE FreakING DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO FReakING MUCH. k?
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So? The Europeans went through the Bubonic plague back in the 14th century, how come we don't have a date for that? That is no excuse "Oh, we have been through a lot." It still isn't fair. We deserve our pride days too. It's rediculous.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
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You didn't. Your race did.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE FReakNG DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO FReakING MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
So? The Europeans went through the Bubonic plague back in the 14th century, how come we don't have a date for that? That is no excuse "Oh, we have been through a lot." It still isn't fair. We deserve our pride days too. It's rediculous.
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Because the bubonic plague wasn't caused by ignorant people who decided that because their skin color was different they were superior and had the right to enslave and discriminate against them.
Because the bubonic plague wasn't caused by ignorant people who decided that because their skin color was different they were superior and had the right to enslave and discriminate against them.
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Let's spoil the Jews for being enslaved thousands of years ago too. Oh wait.
Anyway, I totally and completely agree with what Spongebuddie posted. If we're going to have true equality, we have to be equal. Pampering "minorities" because they had a hard time years ago is ridiculous. Things like scholarships should be given to ANYONE who has earned it. Black, Hispanics (who are also whites), and other minorities should be given a scholarship because they earned it, not because they suffered 100 years ago.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
So? The Europeans went through the Bubonic plague back in the 14th century, how come we don't have a date for that? That is no excuse "Oh, we have been through a lot." It still isn't fair. We deserve our pride days too. It's rediculous.
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Because the bubonic plague wasn't caused by ignorant people who decided that because their skin color was different they were superior and had the right to enslave and discriminate against them.
[snapback]265891[/snapback]
It has nothing to do with skin color... it has to do with peoples behavior as a ethnic group. And I don't care what you say, White people deserve pride days just like the Blacks and Mexicans have.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
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Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
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Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
Did you know White people now only make up about 8% of the total world population? We are already minorities... I demand special rights NOW!!!
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my point excatly!!!!!!! thats what i'm sayin the white people are now the nimorities :mellow:
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
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woa it's ok ty
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
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How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSEÂ DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
So? The Europeans went through the Bubonic plague back in the 14th century, how come we don't have a date for that? That is no excuse "Oh, we have been through a lot." It still isn't fair. We deserve our pride days too. It's rediculous.
[snapback]265882[/snapback]
Because the bubonic plague wasn't caused by ignorant people who decided that because their skin color was different they were superior and had the right to enslave and discriminate against them.
[snapback]265891[/snapback]
It has nothing to do with skin color... it has to do with peoples behavior as a ethnic group. And I don't care what you say, White people deserve pride days just like the Blacks and Mexicans have.
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white people already has pride. :excl:
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSEÂ DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
So? The Europeans went through the Bubonic plague back in the 14th century, how come we don't have a date for that? That is no excuse "Oh, we have been through a lot." It still isn't fair. We deserve our pride days too. It's rediculous.
[snapback]265882[/snapback]
Because the bubonic plague wasn't caused by ignorant people who decided that because their skin color was different they were superior and had the right to enslave and discriminate against them.
[snapback]265891[/snapback]
It has nothing to do with skin color... it has to do with peoples behavior as a ethnic group. And I don't care what you say, White people deserve pride days just like the Blacks and Mexicans have.
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white people already has pride. :excl:
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No crap, Sherlock :rolleyes:
But if we try to show our pride we are being called "racist" whereas the Mexicans can run around wearing brown pride stuff and there is nothing wrong with that.
Please stay out of this thread if you are just going to contribute garbage, please.
All I know is that Asians are taking over my area. I have a ton of Chinese, Korean and Indian friends. I guess the reason that blacks have all that stuff is because they got treated bad in the past and they have more pride than whites do.
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Whites have pride we just can't show it without being accused of Racism, however BET is just a makes the stereotype about blacks all being rapper's or ho's more true.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
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Thanks for calling my opinion bullcrap. But anyway, I think our scholarships may come from us making something out of ourselves. It is harder for black men and women to succeed in life. And the majority are poor. Makes since to me.
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
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Yeah, you're right.
About "Black History Month". It's just ridiculous. Why should there be a seperate month for the history of one race. Is there an Irish History Month? A German one? No. "History" should be history. Ever person that contributes to the advancements of our culture. Our culture as a whole. Why should Black History Month be any different from regular history? Anyway, some of the people you learn about are just in there for the sole reason of trying to make this seem more important than history as a whole. Such as (I can't think of the name) the lady who worked with shampoos. Why do we learn about her in particular, rather learn about George Washington in particular? Don't get me wrong, Martin Luther King Jr. was a great person, and a powerful speaker, but what makes him anymore important than all other revolutionaries in the past?
Every culture has gone through tough times. With Ireland, the potato famine. With Jews, the holocaust. With Polish, communism. With Britain, the Bubonic plague. And every nation has fought with the problems of war!
Okay, so the African Americans had the cicil rights movement. Sure, but it was just as horrible (and sometimes a little easier) than everything else going on in the world. Don't you think Jewish people are discriminated against? Everybody has to realize, the culture of everyone around has gone through just as hard times as you have.
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*cough?*
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
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Thanks for calling my opinion bullcrap. But anyway, I think our scholarships may come from us making something out of ourselves. It is harder for black men and women to succeed in life. And the majority are poor. Makes since to me.
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
[snapback]265926[/snapback]
Yeah, you're right.
About "Black History Month". It's just ridiculous. Why should there be a seperate month for the history of one race. Is there an Irish History Month? A German one? No. "History" should be history. Ever person that contributes to the advancements of our culture. Our culture as a whole. Why should Black History Month be any different from regular history? Anyway, some of the people you learn about are just in there for the sole reason of trying to make this seem more important than history as a whole. Such as (I can't think of the name) the lady who worked with shampoos. Why do we learn about her in particular, rather learn about George Washington in particular? Don't get me wrong, Martin Luther King Jr. was a great person, and a powerful speaker, but what makes him anymore important than all other revolutionaries in the past?
Every culture has gone through tough times. With Ireland, the potato famine. With Jews, the holocaust. With Polish, communism. With Britain, the Bubonic plague. And every nation has fought with the problems of war!
Okay, so the African Americans had the cicil rights movement. Sure, but it was just as horrible (and sometimes a little easier) than everything else going on in the world. Don't you think Jewish people are discriminated against? Everybody has to realize, the culture of everyone around has gone through just as hard times as you have.
[snapback]265980[/snapback]
*cough?*
[snapback]265983[/snapback]
Oh yeah, it must be so hard getting special scholarships and job opportunities, and being able to get away with racially charged crimes, and getting all sorts of free money from the government just for being black. Do you have any idea how easy you could get a job anywhere you wanted? Life is very easy for you black people these days. With the NAACP around you got it so easy you have no idea. Black people are spoiled rotten just as are Hispanic people. And you say black people are poor? Oh yeah, Dr. Dre, P Diddy, and Lil' Bow Wow REALLY have it tough don't they? Afterall they are SOOO POOR right? And if White people have it so good WHY are the majority of us on welfare?
And Patback is right. Black people don't deserve a Black History month if us White people can't have a White History month... it's only fair. And yes, your opinion was bullcrap because you think that just because you are black that you deserve special treatment... what about what your supposed great leader MLK wanted? Didn't he want equality? Well, right now black people are above equality. Yes, you were enslaved... get over it. We have. That was over 100 years ago. And you have the United Negro College Fund... which gives you money for college JUST for being Black... and it is UNFAIR. I want my United Caucasian College Fund for being White. You have no idea how unfair you sound do you?
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
[snapback]265922[/snapback]
Thanks for calling my opinion bullcrap. But anyway, I think our scholarships may come from us making something out of ourselves. It is harder for black men and women to succeed in life. And the majority are poor. Makes since to me.
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
[snapback]265926[/snapback]
Yeah, you're right.
About "Black History Month". It's just ridiculous. Why should there be a seperate month for the history of one race. Is there an Irish History Month? A German one? No. "History" should be history. Ever person that contributes to the advancements of our culture. Our culture as a whole. Why should Black History Month be any different from regular history? Anyway, some of the people you learn about are just in there for the sole reason of trying to make this seem more important than history as a whole. Such as (I can't think of the name) the lady who worked with shampoos. Why do we learn about her in particular, rather learn about George Washington in particular? Don't get me wrong, Martin Luther King Jr. was a great person, and a powerful speaker, but what makes him anymore important than all other revolutionaries in the past?
Every culture has gone through tough times. With Ireland, the potato famine. With Jews, the holocaust. With Polish, communism. With Britain, the Bubonic plague. And every nation has fought with the problems of war!
Okay, so the African Americans had the cicil rights movement. Sure, but it was just as horrible (and sometimes a little easier) than everything else going on in the world. Don't you think Jewish people are discriminated against? Everybody has to realize, the culture of everyone around has gone through just as hard times as you have.
[snapback]265980[/snapback]
*cough?*
[snapback]265983[/snapback]
Oh yeah, it must be so hard getting special scholarships and job opportunities, and being able to get away with racially charged crimes, and getting all sorts of free money from the government just for being black. Do you have any idea how easy you could get a job anywhere you wanted? Life is very easy for you black people these days. With the NAACP around you got it so easy you have no idea. Black people are spoiled rotten just as are Hispanic people. And you say black people are poor? Oh yeah, Dr. Dre, P Diddy, and Lil' Bow Wow REALLY have it tough don't they? Afterall they are SOOO POOR right? And if White people have it so good WHY are the majority of us on welfare?
And Patback is right. Black people don't deserve a Black History month if us White people can't have a White History month... it's only fair. And yes, your opinion was bullcrap because you think that just because you are black that you deserve special treatment... what about what your supposed great leader MLK wanted? Didn't he want equality? Well, right now black people are above equality. Yes, you were enslaved... get over it. We have. That was over 100 years ago. And you have the United Negro College Fund... which gives you money for college JUST for being Black... and it is UNFAIR. I want my United Caucasian College Fund for being White. You have no idea how unfair you sound do you?
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Ouch, you're being way over the line Ty. Borderline racist sounding.
Think of this way; if you say you have white pride, what do you expect? You're proud that you're the majority and that you've never had to use seperate facilities or schools, etc.
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That isn't the point of it Kevin... not at all. But I am not going to get started again, and then say something and get myself banned.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
[snapback]265878[/snapback]
You didn't. Your race did.
[snapback]265883[/snapback]
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
[snapback]265922[/snapback]
Thanks for calling my opinion bullcrap. But anyway, I think our scholarships may come from us making something out of ourselves. It is harder for black men and women to succeed in life. And the majority are poor. Makes since to me.
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
[snapback]265909[/snapback]
How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
[snapback]265926[/snapback]
Yeah, you're right.
About "Black History Month". It's just ridiculous. Why should there be a seperate month for the history of one race. Is there an Irish History Month? A German one? No. "History" should be history. Ever person that contributes to the advancements of our culture. Our culture as a whole. Why should Black History Month be any different from regular history? Anyway, some of the people you learn about are just in there for the sole reason of trying to make this seem more important than history as a whole. Such as (I can't think of the name) the lady who worked with shampoos. Why do we learn about her in particular, rather learn about George Washington in particular? Don't get me wrong, Martin Luther King Jr. was a great person, and a powerful speaker, but what makes him anymore important than all other revolutionaries in the past?
Every culture has gone through tough times. With Ireland, the potato famine. With Jews, the holocaust. With Polish, communism. With Britain, the Bubonic plague. And every nation has fought with the problems of war!
Okay, so the African Americans had the cicil rights movement. Sure, but it was just as horrible (and sometimes a little easier) than everything else going on in the world. Don't you think Jewish people are discriminated against? Everybody has to realize, the culture of everyone around has gone through just as hard times as you have.
[snapback]265980[/snapback]
*cough?*
[snapback]265983[/snapback]
Oh yeah, it must be so hard getting special scholarships and job opportunities, and being able to get away with racially charged crimes, and getting all sorts of free money from the government just for being black. Do you have any idea how easy you could get a job anywhere you wanted? Life is very easy for you black people these days. With the NAACP around you got it so easy you have no idea. Black people are spoiled rotten just as are Hispanic people. And you say black people are poor? Oh yeah, Dr. Dre, P Diddy, and Lil' Bow Wow REALLY have it tough don't they? Afterall they are SOOO POOR right? And if White people have it so good WHY are the majority of us on welfare?
And Patback is right. Black people don't deserve a Black History month if us White people can't have a White History month... it's only fair. And yes, your opinion was bullcrap because you think that just because you are black that you deserve special treatment... what about what your supposed great leader MLK wanted? Didn't he want equality? Well, right now black people are above equality. Yes, you were enslaved... get over it. We have. That was over 100 years ago. And you have the United Negro College Fund... which gives you money for college JUST for being Black... and it is UNFAIR. I want my United Caucasian College Fund for being White. You have no idea how unfair you sound do you?
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Ouch, you're being way over the line Ty. Borderline racist sounding.
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Well, there you go. Right when a white person speaks their mind about something involving a black person in a negative way, they are racist. If a black person said the same thing to a white person, it wouldn't be consitered racist at all. Personally, I don't think Ty sounded harsh at all. I think he was just stating his opinion rather loudly.
I get this every day in math class. I don't take offence to being called a "Cracker" by a group of black kids, but hey. If you can use a racial slur towards me, I should be aloud to use one towards you without offending you. I never call anyone a "dolphin noise" just because I find that really rude, but gosh. We aren't in the time of slavery anymore. You weren't the one experiancing all that, so why do you get any special treatment? We are not the white people who put your ancestors through all that pain, nor are you the ones experiancing it. We should all just be equal.
Argh, I am ranting now. I am sorry if I offended anyone.
I'm half white. But here I go.
WE HAVE ALL THOSE *sigh* DAYS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SO *sigh* MUCH. k?
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You didn't. Your race did.
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Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
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Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
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Everyday is our day? How does that make the least bit of sense? It doesn't, that is why... how is everyday our day? Why can't we have special days set aside for white pride? I don't care how much you have gone through, that doesn't give you right to getting a scholarship JUST FOR BEING BLACK!!! And didn't MLK want eqaulity? This atrocity is far from equality... minorities today have it made considered as they had it 50 years ago... tell me, how many years until everyone is equal, and we can get up to your level? I want a scholarship for being white. I want special job priveleges for being white. I don't care how much you went through, I want to be equal with YOU... so shutup about that crap about us having a day everyday because that is ludicrous bullcrap and you know it.
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Thanks for calling my opinion bullcrap. But anyway, I think our scholarships may come from us making something out of ourselves. It is harder for black men and women to succeed in life. And the majority are poor. Makes since to me.
Right.. that's why I said WE..
KEVIN:
Yeah, and also you guys are the majority, I dont know why. It's just different. ('m agreeing with you)
LIZ:
..and still are suffering from today. Might not be as noticeable, but it is. Also were the other events as big as the black on white or whatever events?
TY:
Riiiiiight.. I'm sorry but everyDAY is your day. :D
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How? Most of the ones that I see suffering today bring it upon themselves.
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Yeah, you're right.
About "Black History Month". It's just ridiculous. Why should there be a seperate month for the history of one race. Is there an Irish History Month? A German one? No. "History" should be history. Ever person that contributes to the advancements of our culture. Our culture as a whole. Why should Black History Month be any different from regular history? Anyway, some of the people you learn about are just in there for the sole reason of trying to make this seem more important than history as a whole. Such as (I can't think of the name) the lady who worked with shampoos. Why do we learn about her in particular, rather learn about George Washington in particular? Don't get me wrong, Martin Luther King Jr. was a great person, and a powerful speaker, but what makes him anymore important than all other revolutionaries in the past?
Every culture has gone through tough times. With Ireland, the potato famine. With Jews, the holocaust. With Polish, communism. With Britain, the Bubonic plague. And every nation has fought with the problems of war!
Okay, so the African Americans had the cicil rights movement. Sure, but it was just as horrible (and sometimes a little easier) than everything else going on in the world. Don't you think Jewish people are discriminated against? Everybody has to realize, the culture of everyone around has gone through just as hard times as you have.
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*cough?*
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Oh yeah, it must be so hard getting special scholarships and job opportunities, and being able to get away with racially charged crimes, and getting all sorts of free money from the government just for being black. Do you have any idea how easy you could get a job anywhere you wanted? Life is very easy for you black people these days. With the NAACP around you got it so easy you have no idea. Black people are spoiled rotten just as are Hispanic people. And you say black people are poor? Oh yeah, Dr. Dre, P Diddy, and Lil' Bow Wow REALLY have it tough don't they? Afterall they are SOOO POOR right? And if White people have it so good WHY are the majority of us on welfare?
And Patback is right. Black people don't deserve a Black History month if us White people can't have a White History month... it's only fair. And yes, your opinion was bullcrap because you think that just because you are black that you deserve special treatment... what about what your supposed great leader MLK wanted? Didn't he want equality? Well, right now black people are above equality. Yes, you were enslaved... get over it. We have. That was over 100 years ago. And you have the United Negro College Fund... which gives you money for college JUST for being Black... and it is UNFAIR. I want my United Caucasian College Fund for being White. You have no idea how unfair you sound do you?
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Ouch, you're being way over the line Ty. Borderline racist sounding.
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Well, there you go. Right when a white person speaks their mind about something involving a black person in a negative way, they are racist. If a black person said the same thing to a white person, it wouldn't be consitered racist at all. Personally, I don't think Ty sounded harsh at all. I think he was just stating his opinion rather loudly.
I get this every day in math class. I don't take offence to being called a "Cracker" by a group of black kids, but hey. If you can use a racial slur towards me, I should be aloud to use one towards you without offending you. I never call anyone a "dolphin noise" just because I find that really rude, but gosh. We aren't in the time of slavery anymore. You weren't the one experiancing all that, so why do you get any special treatment? We are not the white people who put your ancestors through all that pain, nor are you the ones experiancing it. We should all just be equal.
Argh, I am ranting now. I am sorry if I offended anyone.
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Thank you... and I agree with you 100%. Very well stated.
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Some times you have to exaderate to get your point heard.
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Look whose talking... we haven't exagerrated nearly as much as you have :rolleyes:. You live in such an unrealistic world... plus you're wrong. You are just too full of pride to admit the Liz, oscar the grouch, I and many others proved you wrong.
And that is a very powerful statement, Jeremy... I really respect that.
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Some times you have to exaderate to get your point heard.
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Yes, I know.
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Look whose talking... we haven't exagerrated nearly as much as you have :rolleyes:. You live in such an unrealistic world... plus you're wrong. You are just too full of pride to admit the Liz, oscar the grouch, I and many others proved you wrong.
And that is a very powerful statement, Jeremy... I really respect that.
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You are so right Ty. You should get your freakin White Pride day, I could care less. But I can't make it happen so dont get angry at me for the freakin way things are because I am not the one giving out those freaking scholarships to the freaking black kids, okay?
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Some times you have to exaderate to get your point heard.
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Yes, I know.
Eh, honestly I could care less right now. You guys are over exaggerating.
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Look whose talking... we haven't exagerrated nearly as much as you have :rolleyes:. You live in such an unrealistic world... plus you're wrong. You are just too full of pride to admit the Liz, oscar the grouch, I and many others proved you wrong.
And that is a very powerful statement, Jeremy... I really respect that.
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You are so right Ty. You should get your freakin White Pride day, I could care less. But I can't make it happen so dont get angry at me for the freakin way things are because I am not the one giving out those freaking scholarships to the freaking black kids, okay?
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No, it's the fact that you said "everyday is your day" is what got me going... and the fact that you think it is right for black people to get scholarships for being black, but you think that White people don't deserve them for being white.
When did I say that white people dont deserve scholarships? I've NEVER said that. And I also never said that black deserve them either. I did however, explain a reason why.
Everyday is kind of your day. I mean, you guys are the majority. No matter what y'all say. Because yes I know blacks and mexicans and other races are growing and we are pretty much taking over. But not yet. I mean, its not like I think that white people pretty much own everything, its just that.. well you kinda do. But the 14 or 15 % that us other races have is ours. And let us enjoy it while we can.
o.- and yes I do notice that made no since whatsoever.
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I don't care about the growing minorities... and did you know the White race only accounts for 8% of the world... are we really the majority? Even Europe has a lot of non-white immigrants. Nothing wrong with that, I am just saying compared to the 30% it used to be, 8% is a significant decrease... and your logic is still flawed. Your logic still implis you think minorities deserve better chances.
And in about 50 years Latinos will make up yes... 49% of the North American population it is predicted... so 50 years from now when we make up 15% of the population will we be treated like minorities are treated now? Loco is right. The non-white population is growing at a very rapid rate which once again... is not a problem with me.
In the end I just want everyone to be equal... until the day when each ethnic group is completely evened out in America I fear this will never happen.
These sorts of debates always catch my attention. As usual, emotions run high.
Just wanted to bring in another angle--if there's anything I've taken from the thread here (from most of the posters, of any racial group), it is the near-invisibility of white privilege.
When white privilege gets rendered invisible, much of what everyone has said here makes complete sense--especially Dragon of Grief.
But how, exactly, are whites "privileged"? Glad you asked. Some statistics:
--The average white person in America will live 6 years longer than the average black person, a combination of better access to health care and crime rates, among other issues.
--For every dollar an average white person makes, a black person makes 70 cents (or to put this another way, for every dollar a black person makes, a white person gets $1.30--this highlights the white privilege aspect.)
--The average white family has about $40,000 dollars in "net worth" (assets minus debts--assets are like stocks and bonds--but the single biggest factor is home ownership.) Blacks average $4,000. So whites have 10X the wealth of blacks, on average.
There are plenty more stats like these; but in my view, the most important stat by far is the one showing differences in net worth. We get a sense of that in Lil Loco's post a bit earlier. My grandparents (I'm white, as is my whole family, by implication) moved to an area in the 1950s in which only white people could live; blacks and other racialized minorities were consigned to the kinds of areas Lil Loco's family was raised (I'm also from LA, so I'm very familiar with the areas he listed.) The property value of my grandparents house skyrocketed--this was not the case for the areas where Lil Loco's family is from. My grandparents used part of the equity on their house to help my parents get their first home.
Case in point: many whites are the current benefactors of an enormous windfall of wealth and inheritance money. Many whites are living in areas (and their children are attending better schools) that they would never be able to live in or afford if not for the wealth being passed down to them. I am part of that legacy, as my parents would have never been able to afford to buy a house in the nice suburban area (with nice schools) had it not been for my grandparents helping them out. But again, my grandparents lived in an area that was, at the time they bought their home, a whites-only area. 30-40 years down the line, my parents and I reap the benefits.
In contrast, blacks are 4 times more likely to be helping their families out. While my parents were helping me out by helping pay my college tuition, my Latino friends were living at home and paying rent to help their families. This is part of the rationale (a somewhat faulty one, to be sure) behind having scholarships and such specifically earmarked for racialized minorities. For whites who don't see the statistics I mentioned above and the role of centuries of white racism in creating those imbalances, of course scholarships-for-minorities will be deemed "racist." And that makes perfect sense.
Sometimes we have to get past attitudes and look at the crude and, yes, boring statistics which do affect our lives and the lives of those around us.
Thus, I don't really want to address the whole debate over "white pride/black pride" when, to me, the bigger issue is "white wealth/black wealth" because it shapes so much of the debate. (White Wealth/Black Wealth is a book title that discusses these very issues, by the way.)
So it's not about good white people or "racist" white people (whatever that is) or good/racist/etc people of color, but about the vastly different life chances the different races receive (on average) in American society. We often lose sight of that in the emotion-laden debates we have about pride or whatever. And remember, these are averages--there are plenty of whites with no wealth and plenty of people of color who are rich and are benefiting from inheritances. The conclusion?--in all our racial thinking, we can lose sight that the bigger issue may not be race, but capitalism!
Just wanted to give another opinion! Thanks for reading!!! :happy:
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I greatly respect your opinion... but the fact of the matter is most black people do live in ghettos... this I can agree with... but then why don't they try and better themselves and be decent upstanding citizens instead of hating the White people for something that happened hundreds of years ago? Also remember many of the Black people back in Africa sold their own people to the European colonists... yes, they were selling out their own race.
And I do agree capatilism does not work... I myself am borderline poverty... capatilism has done nothing but make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
They were selling their own race because they had no money, they needed to in order to survive..
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So White people aren't all to blame for slavery am I correct :happy:
No..
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No I am not correct, or No white people aren't all to blame?
Eh both.. I dont know. I cant debate you right now. I'm eating.
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You would be too busy to post if you were eating.
something that happened hundreds of years ago?
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hundreds of years ago? Try 50, if that long ago.
Tyler is right. Let's hear about some white discrimination.
My brother went to high school for a while because he wanted to, and my mom didn't feel that it was right to force him to be homeschooled, so off he went. Now, this didn't happen in his classroom, so he didn't see it, but we all heard about it later. A white kid stepped in front of a black kid, who happened to be three times his size, to get to the pencil sharpener. The black kid started beating the ever living daylights out of him. He kept kicking him repeatedly in the face and was breaking bones. A kid my mom and I know grabbed the boys arms and tried to stop him, but to no avail. The teacher kept pushing the red button, but no help was coming. When help finally did come, they had to call an ambulance. The poor kids eye had been knocked out of socket, and as they drug him out to the ambulance he yelled, "I'll kill you!" to the black kid. Why had this black boy beaten the white kid? To teach "them white boys a lesson". White boy: suspended for two weeks (I believe) for a death threat, which was probably just his emotions speaking. Black boy: In school three days after this incident.
This isn't equality.
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That's just sick. One is beaten to death. One is threaten. Of course, only the one who half-killed the kid is back in school. It sickens me how I am smarter than most adults.
yea it does suck...but ive been taken in az suspect for doin stuff, just for being around the incident. ty knowz the story of when a mini-bomb went off at my high skool.
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Yeah, I heard about that... I remember that story. You told me on AIM.
Tyler is right. Let's hear about some white discrimination.
My brother went to high school for a while because he wanted to, and my mom didn't feel that it was right to force him to be homeschooled, so off he went. Now, this didn't happen in his classroom, so he didn't see it, but we all heard about it later. A white kid stepped in front of a black kid, who happened to be three times his size, to get to the pencil sharpener. The black kid started beating the ever living daylights out of him. He kept kicking him repeatedly in the face and was breaking bones. A kid my mom and I know grabbed the boys arms and tried to stop him, but to no avail. The teacher kept pushing the red button, but no help was coming. When help finally did come, they had to call an ambulance. The poor kids eye had been knocked out of socket, and as they drug him out to the ambulance he yelled, "I'll kill you!" to the black kid. Why had this black boy beaten the white kid? To teach "them white boys a lesson". White boy: suspended for two weeks (I believe) for a death threat, which was probably just his emotions speaking. Black boy: In school three days after this incident.
This isn't equality.
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Well you know, the white kid did of course, get in his way of the pencil sharpener. :ph34r:
On a more serious note, that is really disturbing that they would even alow that boy back into the school after he did that to someone. A death threat seems very minor in that case. If it had been me who he had done that too, after I was well I would of gotten someone bigger to beat the living day lights out of him and kick out his eyeball... but thats just the way I react to those sorts of situations.
second grade black kid put his foot and my me fall.didn't even say soory
Ouch, That wasn't a very nice thing for him to do.
One time a black kid looked at me. *gasp* I was scarred for life...
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That was un called for. :ph34r:
One time a black kid looked at me. *gasp* I was scarred for life...
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That was un called for. :ph34r:
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Please don't hurt me, ninja master.
One time a black kid looked at me. *gasp* I was scarred for life...
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I am really hoping that was sarcasim.
One time a black kid looked at me. *gasp* I was scarred for life...
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I am really hoping that was sarcasim.
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Yeah. It was. :ohmy:
minority, shminority the world would be a better place if every one were blind.
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"Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see."
Yeah, I remember that story Liz... it is so easy for minorities to get away with things like that these days. I blame the NAACP. The NAACP is an evil, racist, and biggoted organization as far as I am concerned.
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Don't blame the NAACP, they're just there to help black people, not to make them superior.
Yeah, I remember that story Liz... it is so easy for minorities to get away with things like that these days. I blame the NAACP. The NAACP is an evil, racist, and biggoted organization as far as I am concerned.
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Do you care to explain your reasoning behind that?
it annoys me yet at the same time i don care :P
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then what do you want me to say :dry:i mean it is true
Yeah, I remember that story Liz... it is so easy for minorities to get away with things like that these days. I blame the NAACP. The NAACP is an evil, racist, and biggoted organization as far as I am concerned.
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Do you care to explain your reasoning behind that?
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Do you care to explain to me how you think they are so great? why don't we have any foundations that help out only white people? Why do minorities get the NAACP?
*sigh* I wish you guys would just understand that we aren't TRYING to be superior.. why fight me? Why not do something about it Ty?
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If I tried too that would be racist :rolleyes:
it annoys me yet at the same time i don care :P
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then what do you want me to say :dry:i mean it is true
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nah i mean when i'm at school n people label me as a white girl
...need?
why exactly do i or any other minority need representation? are we too incompitant to stand up for ourselvez like everyone else?
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x.x
I really didn't mean it like that.
I just think that with most of America's top offices (excluding Condeleeza Rice) being run by old white men, minorities might need a stronger voice to get their point across.
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itz not that minoritiez cant get into top officez, there just isnt that many in politicz period. alotta the people that get interested in upper politicz are, like u said, older white guyz, whose family haz been into politicz for a long time. people like condeleeza just prove that minoritiez can get up there if they really wanted to.
My argument stands until the day we have white pride days, and a union like the NAACP for white people... and my problem with the NAACP is they don't help white people out at all. And Jeremy made a very strong argument... minorities don't need the help of these organizations. Us white folk never had help establishing ourselves... there is racism int he world which sucks. But the minorities want EQUALITY. Not special benefits...
And the reason minorities are not into politics is because most of these old white men have a lot of experience... give it several more years... more minority groups will get involved in politics.
And shouldn't it be about who is better for the job rather then their race? If I didn't know any better i'd say you were being racist, Kevin...
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1: The union for white people is called money, which runs the government.
2: The NAACP was created by a mass movement by African Americans because they were being oppressed. It's not as if the NAACP is some magical force that chose only to help black people. It was created by black people to create equality for black people. And without it, there would be nowhere near the level of equality there is today. Special benefits? You don't know the meaning of it.
3: Give it a few more years? News flash: There have been minorities in this country since the day it was founded. It has always been the people with money who run the country. And since the founding of the country, it has been white men who had the money. It's never been about experience.
My argument stands until the day we have white pride days, and a union like the NAACP for white people... and my problem with the NAACP is they don't help white people out at all. And Jeremy made a very strong argument... minorities don't need the help of these organizations. Us white folk never had help establishing ourselves... there is racism int he world which sucks. But the minorities want EQUALITY. Not special benefits...
And the reason minorities are not into politics is because most of these old white men have a lot of experience... give it several more years... more minority groups will get involved in politics.
And shouldn't it be about who is better for the job rather then their race? If I didn't know any better i'd say you were being racist, Kevin...
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1: The union for white people is called money, which runs the government.
2: The NAACP was created by a mass movement by African Americans because they were being oppressed. It's not as if the NAACP is some magical force that chose only to help black people. It was created by black people to create equality for black people. And without it, there would be nowhere near the level of equality there is today. Special benefits? You don't know the meaning of it.
3: Give it a few more years? News flash: There have been minorities in this country since the day it was founded. It has always been the people with money who run the country. And since the founding of the country, it has been white men who had the money. It's never been about experience.
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aight then, ima take on each of your pointz...
1: not all white people got money...not all minoritiez are poor.
2: while i dont directly disapprove of the NAACP, i dont see why it'z necessary now. minoritiez arent being lynched anymore and they have the same freedomz everyone else has. much beyond that, other special interest organizationz can be used in the same way to help people and communitiez, that arent for one specific group of people.
3: yea there'z been minoritiez in the country for yearz...no, there hasnt been the same degree of equality that'z been reached in more recent yearz.
personally i think if itz gonna exist, it should be the NAAAP (national association for the advancement of all people)
My argument stands until the day we have white pride days, and a union like the NAACP for white people... and my problem with the NAACP is they don't help white people out at all. And Jeremy made a very strong argument... minorities don't need the help of these organizations. Us white folk never had help establishing ourselves... there is racism int he world which sucks. But the minorities want EQUALITY. Not special benefits...
And the reason minorities are not into politics is because most of these old white men have a lot of experience... give it several more years... more minority groups will get involved in politics.
And shouldn't it be about who is better for the job rather then their race? If I didn't know any better i'd say you were being racist, Kevin...
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1: The union for white people is called money, which runs the government.
2: The NAACP was created by a mass movement by African Americans because they were being oppressed. It's not as if the NAACP is some magical force that chose only to help black people. It was created by black people to create equality for black people. And without it, there would be nowhere near the level of equality there is today. Special benefits? You don't know the meaning of it.
3: Give it a few more years? News flash: There have been minorities in this country since the day it was founded. It has always been the people with money who run the country. And since the founding of the country, it has been white men who had the money. It's never been about experience.
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aight then, ima take on each of your pointz...
1: not all white people got money...not all minoritiez are poor.
2: while i dont directly disapprove of the NAACP, i dont see why it'z necessary now. minoritiez arent being lynched anymore and they have the same freedomz everyone else has. much beyond that, other special interest organizationz can be used in the same way to help people and communitiez, that arent for one specific group of people.
3: yea there'z been minoritiez in the country for yearz...no, there hasnt been the same degree of equality that'z been reached in more recent yearz.
personally i think if itz gonna exist, it should be the NAAAP (national association for the advancement of all people)
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That third point is a good one... everybody should have an organization that helps white, black, hispanic, asian, indian, everyone... very ncie post once again, Jeremy... you are a valued asset in this debate =)
1. I didn't mean it to taken literally.
2. As for having the same freedoms, legally, yes. In practice, not quite. There are still socioeconomic problems that effect a large percent of African Americans in the country. There is a difference between equality by law, and equality in reality. And until the second one occurs, I see the need for an NAACP.
3. I agree that more minorities will reach higher positions in government and society, but again, that would be a direct result of equality in reality.
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it all dependz...there'z actually areas are here where minoritiez are more prosperous in the workforce than whitez are. and to be honest, i dont care whether NAACP iz here. but like i said, i just think it should be for all people, not just one.
and thanx ty.
My argument stands until the day we have white pride days, and a union like the NAACP for white people... and my problem with the NAACP is they don't help white people out at all. And Jeremy made a very strong argument... minorities don't need the help of these organizations. Us white folk never had help establishing ourselves... there is racism int he world which sucks. But the minorities want EQUALITY. Not special benefits...
And the reason minorities are not into politics is because most of these old white men have a lot of experience... give it several more years... more minority groups will get involved in politics.
And shouldn't it be about who is better for the job rather then their race? If I didn't know any better i'd say you were being racist, Kevin...
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Minorities statistically have lower incomes, so until you can get it so both races have equal OPPURTUNITY, that has to be factored in.
My argument stands until the day we have white pride days, and a union like the NAACP for white people... and my problem with the NAACP is they don't help white people out at all. And Jeremy made a very strong argument... minorities don't need the help of these organizations. Us white folk never had help establishing ourselves... there is racism int he world which sucks. But the minorities want EQUALITY. Not special benefits...
And the reason minorities are not into politics is because most of these old white men have a lot of experience... give it several more years... more minority groups will get involved in politics.
And shouldn't it be about who is better for the job rather then their race? If I didn't know any better i'd say you were being racist, Kevin...
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Minorities statistically have lower incomes, so until you can get it so both races have equal OPPURTUNITY, that has to be factored in.
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just cuz minoritiez got lower incomez on average, dont mean we dont have the opportunity to make more. if i went to skool and got good gradez, i could become a doctor or a lawyer if i wanted. the field i'm gettin into after high skool can pay six-figurez per year once i have good amount of experience in it. opportunity iz everywhere...where or not sumone actz on the opportunity, iz up to the person.
i think wut you're tryin to get at iz havin everyone make the same statistically...that aint the same az having equal opportunity.