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SpongeBob SquarePants => Bikini Bottom => Topic started by: EVan on December 28, 2007, 10:35:25 pm
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I mean come on...The new episodes are terrible in my (and several others) opinion. The season 4+ episodes are like a completely different show that seem aimed at an age group of 5 years old. Im a very big SpongeBob fan and when Fear of a Krabby Patty/Shell of a Man aired, I couldnt stand it. I tried to bear with the rest of the series but i have just stopped caring about new episodes.
There probably wont be a themed 'last episode', since Nick doesnt want veiwers to know a show has ended... So our only solid ending is the SpongeBob Movie, which Stephen Hillenburg confirmed as the series end because there was a high chance of it getting cancled after season 3. Back in 04 that was terrible. But now, it doesnt sound like such a bad idea.
Reading over this..i sound very critical and mad, but im just a little angry at what the show has turned out to be...
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It SHOULD have ended after the movie.
Seasons 4 and 5 SUCK.
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do I hear an echo?
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This looks like just about every other recent Bikini Bottom topic I've seen...if you want my opinion look at all the other threads that are exactly like this.
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I didnt ask for it but okay.
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i mean, come on guys...spongebob is considered by me and 1000 other people to be one of the greatest tv shows of all time. In season 3, we wouldnt get an episode that would suck but now most of them suck, and only a handful from season 5 are ok. season 4's prime episode was "Krusty Towers", the rest was garbage. Season 3's best was "Krusty Krab Training Video" and the rest were awesome. they SHOULD have quit when i was good after the film. more and more people would consider it gold.
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i mean, come on guys...spongebob is considered by me and 1000 other people to be one of the greatest tv shows of all time. In season 3, we wouldnt get an episode that would suck but now most of them suck, and only a handful from season 5 are ok. season 4's prime episode was "Krusty Towers", the rest was garbage. Season 3's best was "Krusty Krab Training Video" and the rest were awesome. they SHOULD have quit when i was good after the film. more and more people would consider it gold.
Krusty Towers actually was really good...easily the best of Season 4, it can't of had the spirit of old SpongeBob. The matress episode was also really good, but otherwise Season 4 has been pretty much mediocre to crap quality. I haven;t even seen Season 5.
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In my opinion every season 1 episode was classic and I could watch 'em a million times and not get tired of 'em. Season 2 and 3 were good, but they had a small sprinkle of bad episodes. Season 4 and 5...why? I haven't caught all of the new ones, but I struggle to even chuckle at them. The night that gum episode came on I couldn't even get through the first 3 minutes and I had already left to find a better way to spend my time. I'd love to know what sparked the change so it could be reversed and get back to classic SpongeBob or just cancel it now and save us from any more failed attempts at it's former glory.
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Are you all honestly surprised in the least? It happens with EVERY show eventually. And I pretty much know for a fact, HAD they even THOUGHT about stopping production, there would be millions of people petitioning against it. Anyways, Spongebob is too big of a moneymaker for Nick to just drop and stop making episodes of it. It's all about making money. If at some time, sales drop on all the Spongebob stuff, people stop watching the show, then they will halt production. It is all about capitilistic greed. If it doesn't sell, then Nick drops it... Invader Zim never became popular until after it was cancelled and taken off the air. It's just how things work. And after awhile you just start running out of ideas. I am sure Spongebob will at least last up until season 7, 8, or 9.
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^The way some things are going I don't WANT it to last that long. SpongeBob should end out on something good and sweet, nothing like...season 4.
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Read what I just said though... they don't care so long as it is making money. It is all about money and money alone. As long as Spongebob keeps rolling in the dough then they will keep making new eppies. The only thing you can do is just stop watching the show and stop buying the Spongebob merch.
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I wish they'd go back to when Spongebob was great and work from there. Seasons 4 and 5 weren't my favorite either. :/
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Eventually people run out of ideas yah know.
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Am I the only one that doesn't hate the new episodes? Selling Out had Mr. Krabs in it the whole time! Among my favorites are that, whale of a birthday, Enemy in law, and a bunch of them are good. Mr. Krabs is the new star. I must admit some of them arn't great but u get enough good ones.
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In my opinion every season 1 episode was classic and I could watch 'em a million times and not get tired of 'em. Season 2 and 3 were good, but they had a small sprinkle of bad episodes. Season 4 and 5...why? I haven't caught all of the new ones, but I struggle to even chuckle at them. The night that gum episode came on I couldn't even get through the first 3 minutes and I had already left to find a better way to spend my time. I'd love to know what sparked the change so it could be reversed and get back to classic SpongeBob or just cancel it now and save us from any more failed attempts at it's former glory.
I actually thought that Season 1 was the weakest of the original 3 (the first couple episodes of SB were really weak IMO), Season 2, every singel episode was great and Episode 3 could have been the best if it wasn't for the occasional crap episode sprinkled in ("Lost Episode", etc.)
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This is sort of an echo thread.
I very much agree with Dragon of Grief: we can't dodge the role the dollar sign plays in this whole process. SB continues to be a merchandising cash cow; his visage still commands economic attention.
It needs to be remembered that The Simpsons has encountered similar issues, where even the voice actors/actresses were expressing some level of misgiving regarding the decreasing quality of the writing. I am very curious to know what Tom Kenny et. al. think of the opinions being made here and likely elsewhere regarding seasons 4 and 5.
It also needs to be remembered that the writers almost completely changed after the movie. Most of the big names of seasons 2 and 3 (Walt Dohrn, CH Greenblatt, Kaz, Merriweather Williams, etc.) are no longer around. Most of the head writers (Casey Alexander, Luke Brookshier, Zeus Cervas, Dani Michaeli, Nate Cash, etc.) came in to replace them, and we only see a few of the old writers (Aaron Springer, Paul Tibbitt, and a couple others.)
The issue of ideas is likewise important. Of course season 1 was hardly bereft of new ideas, since many of the episodes (especially the early ones) dealt with our introduction to SB's predilections, from his love for the Krusty Krab to jellyfishing to blowing bubbles. The later episodes can't depend on that and have to find new ways to introduce those themes. A great example of this type of issue is the first season episode "Hooky." It's a great introduction to the characters' interaction with the air world above them, but there's no way you can repeat something like that. The idea was already taken in season 1, and the later seasons are thus left with less.
But even now, some of the episodes suggest to me that there are still many fresh ideas out there: take the episodes "Driven to Tears" and "Spy Buddies," for instance. They're both pretty good episodes, but they show that many unique approaches to the antics of SB and the other characters are still out there.
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Maybe Tom Kenny & the gang DO think the newer ones are good. The show can not continue ad infinitum, can it? But if Tom Kenny was asked, I wonder if we'd get the truth irregardless of his honesty. Honest men make unconvincing liars.