Ok, I know people would get offended if they became readable in public. but ya know what...they dont have to read them. It's there for the people who want to, mainly Christians.
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Exactly. It's kinda like at Christmas when the Menorah, and the Kwanzaa candlestick (Sorry, I forget the name.) are displayed, as well as a Nativity scene. It's a part of freedom.
As for being "offended" by the Ten Commandments? Come on. Most of them are just good common sense anyway. Nothing offensive about being told not to steal, or cheat of your spouse, etc...
Well it's not there for a religious purpose, so it should be up.
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If not religious, would you care to explain for what purpose are they going to be displayed?
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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I truly don't care about the other documents. You say the ten commandments are or will be up there for non-religious purposes, and to me, they're a symbol of the Christian religion. So that's why I want to know, what is the purpose then?
Unless you plan to display every single religion out there, none should be up.
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Anyone who wants to should be able to.
The same word repeated 3 times: No, no, no. There are a lot of people with other religions who would be offended.
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What if I decide that the Menorah offends me? See how ridiculous that is? Once again, ANYONE should be able to display ANY religious symbol as long as it isn't something horribly vulgar, in which case, it isn't likely religious.
The same word repeated 3 times: No, no, no. There are a lot of people with other religions who would be offended.
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What if I decide that the Menorah offends me? See how ridiculous that is? Once again, ANYONE should be able to display ANY religious symbol as long as it isn't something horribly vulgar, in which case, it isn't likely religious.
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I have to agree with you. I'm fine with other religions putting up stuff of their's. It's a free country.
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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If you're implying that the Ten Commandments arent real, which is guessing you are, then why do you have a problem with it being posted publicly? It's not telling you to do anything, it's just something hanging on the wall that doesn't apply to you if you don't want it to.
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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You dissapoint me. You surely cannot say just because you don't think something is "real" makes it no good. Everyone knows it is wrong to lie, steal, murder, cheat, etc...
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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If so, then you should let them display it then anyway.
P.S Hey IZ, the ten commandments are real. Probably without them none of us would be posting because everyone would be killing each other.
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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If so, then you should let them display it then anyway.
P.S Hey IZ, the ten commandments are real. Probably without them none of us would be posting because everyone would be killing each other.
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People still kill each other.
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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If so, then you should let them display it then anyway.
P.S Hey IZ, the ten commandments are real. Probably without them none of us would be posting because everyone would be killing each other.
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People still kill each other.
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That's because they don't listen.
The same word repeated 3 times: No, no, no. There are a lot of people with other religions who would be offended.
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What if I decide that the Menorah offends me? See how ridiculous that is? Once again, ANYONE should be able to display ANY religious symbol as long as it isn't something horribly vulgar, in which case, it isn't likely religious.
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No they shouldn't. What they're implying by putting up religious symbols in public is that everyone is of that religion. It offends people who are not Christian because it makes them feel inferior. Believe me, I have a lot of friends who are not Christian (Jewish and various assorted Asian religions), and they are offended by this sort of thing.
The same word repeated 3 times: No, no, no. There are a lot of people with other religions who would be offended.
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What if I decide that the Menorah offends me? See how ridiculous that is? Once again, ANYONE should be able to display ANY religious symbol as long as it isn't something horribly vulgar, in which case, it isn't likely religious.
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No they shouldn't. What they're implying by putting up religious symbols in public is that everyone is of that religion. It offends people who are not Christian because it makes them feel inferior. Believe me, I have a lot of friends who are not Christian (Jewish and various assorted Asian religions), and they are offended by this sort of thing.
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Well they need to get over it. There is nothing there to make anyone feel inferior. In America, we are priviledged to put up any and all religious symbols. They can display theirs, the Christian down the road can display his.
You have Jewish friends insulted by the Ten Commandments, put out there by Moses himself? Nice try, bud. No Jew is offended by God or Moses.
Explain why there is something mentioning the declaration of independence and other documents right below it.
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That's because those documents are dealing with American Independance, something that is actually real.
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So you're stating that the Ten Commandments are offending to some. What you just posted was hyporcrisy, from my point of view. That's offending to Christians, and things like that are said everywhere. I think it's a fair share of people getting offended anyway. Any other religion doesn't have to follow the ten commandments, it's displayed for the people that actually care. I was going through Xanga one day and found this site of two girls that thought it would be so cool to make a completely offensive post in their blog. It isn't even a blog, it's just that one post. Here is the link: http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Super__Sinners (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=Super__Sinners)
Hence the name. There are things that are said like that everywhere, you either choose to be offended by it or shake it off and continue to live for what you believe, no questions asked.
Why do you need them displayed anyway? Shouldn't you already know them?
It's the commandments like "You shall have no other gods besides Me" that make me disagree with posting it in public. You're basically spitting in the face of every other religion.
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If you're going with that argument then you're saying signs shouldn't be up during elections, either.
Why do you need them displayed anyway? Shouldn't you already know them?
It's the commandments like "You shall have no other gods besides Me" that make me disagree with posting it in public. You're basically spitting in the face of every other religion.
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They can just ignore it. That's what I would do if I wasn't Christian.
Why do you need them displayed anyway? Shouldn't you already know them?
It's the commandments like "You shall have no other gods besides Me" that make me disagree with posting it in public. You're basically spitting in the face of every other religion.
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Thats what I've been trying to say.
Why do you need them displayed anyway? Shouldn't you already know them?
It's the commandments like "You shall have no other gods besides Me" that make me disagree with posting it in public. You're basically spitting in the face of every other religion.
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They can just ignore it. That's what I would do if I wasn't Christian.
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You are Christian though, you don't know what it's like to have one religion massively favored throughout the government.
Yeah actually every one kind of does look down upon you if you tell them you aren't christian. I don't know how to explain it.
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Not everyone will. Some people will accept that...like me.
Why do you need them displayed anyway? Shouldn't you already know them?
It's the commandments like "You shall have no other gods besides Me" that make me disagree with posting it in public. You're basically spitting in the face of every other religion.
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If you're going with that argument then you're saying signs shouldn't be up during elections, either.
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that bush got through, despite his barbaric behaviour and racism, just cos hes christian, is wrong.
i agree IZ, i mean, you cant really display nine of the ten commandments, but thats not cool.
it could make a muslim in the couthouse feel that he was going to get less of a fair go than he should.
Well, of course I was exaggerating. Mostly everyone I know doesn't accept it.
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That's sort of how I feel, but the abuse is coming from protestants (actually Baptist, no offence to anyone, I realize there are more considerate ones out there). Sure, because of my religion, but most is because they think they're better than my church because they have more money. Honestly, I sort of agree with how Kerry (although HE was Catholic) was not going to interfere with a non-christian's life. You know what I mean right? It's just something people have to go through. There isn't anything we can do really.
Lots of things offend people, why is it that they just want the ten commandments taken down? It should be all right. If you don't like it, DON'T LOOK AT IT!!! DUH!! Is it that hard? They are commandments given by God that we should follow! John Kerry signs offend many of us (me, anyway), yet we tolerate them. What's the difference in the ten commandments?
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You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
EDIT: Oh yes, I forgot my other point...
He may have said Kerry posters offended him, but you used the same logic for the Ten Commandments. There's a fault in your logic there. You find the Ten Commandments offensive and don't want them displayed. He found Kerry posters offensive and didn't want them displayed. It works both ways.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
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It doesn't matter what the founders thought though. They thought slavery was acceptable, is that still true today? The founders were great people for what they did, but some of their beliefs are outdated and wrong.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
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It doesn't matter what the founders thought though. They thought slavery was acceptable, is that still true today? The founders were great people for what they did, but some of their beliefs are outdated and wrong.
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Okay, let's get extremely technical. The founders of our country DIDN'T think slavery was acceptable. It was a separatist group from the south that thought that.
Times were a bit simpler back then. People didn't read much into what was written in the Constitution, so everything had a meaning which has been stretched now.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
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It doesn't matter what the founders thought though. They thought slavery was acceptable, is that still true today? The founders were great people for what they did, but some of their beliefs are outdated and wrong.
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Okay, let's get extremely technical. The founders of our country DIDN'T think slavery was acceptable. It was a separatist group from the south that thought that.
Times were a bit simpler back then. People didn't read much into what was written in the Constitution, so everything had a meaning which has been stretched now.
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Okay, but that still doesn't change the fact that even if they thought Christianity was the only important religion, they were wrong.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
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It doesn't matter what the founders thought though. They thought slavery was acceptable, is that still true today? The founders were great people for what they did, but some of their beliefs are outdated and wrong.
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Besides there is seperation of church and state. And anything relating to the church cannot be sponsered or displayed by the goverment.
You're entitled freedom of religion in the constitution, you're not entitled to remove anything and everything that offends you.
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Yeah...I'm bringing back an old topic...but I have a point....so yeah.
Kevin...what you said there totally contradicts what you said earlier in the argument. You said you don't support the posting of the the Ten Commandments, but you also say you don't have the right to remove stuff that is offensive to you. So...you don't have the right to keep the Ten Commandments from being posted.
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No, he said Kerry posters are offensive and should be removed because "they offend him". Elections are competition though, religion isn't. You do have the right to the freedom of religion though, and "You shall have no other Gods before me." is a slap in the face to every other religion out there. Election posters are just insulting your political choice, while the 10 Commandments insult your entire way of life.
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How can they insult your way of life? They simply show the way some people (some happens to be most in the U.S.A) choose to live. If you don't like what they say, you don't HAVE to look. You have the freedom not to.
You call it a "slap in the face," but you don't bother to look at the fact that whatever you believe is also a slap in the face to Christians.
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but when you put the Ten Commandments in goverment buildings and courthouses, you're saying that the governments thinks what you're doing is wrong, and that's not fair.
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Does it say anywhere that the government thinks you are wrong? No.
If you get right down to the reason this country was founded...it was religious freedom. But it's not how we think of it now. Religious freedom to the founders of the U.S. meant freedom from the Church of England. They wanted to keep the same basic beliefs, but change some of the corruption of the church. So, when talking about things which helped shape the foundation of our country, the Ten Commandments are crucial.
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It doesn't matter what the founders thought though. They thought slavery was acceptable, is that still true today? The founders were great people for what they did, but some of their beliefs are outdated and wrong.
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Okay, let's get extremely technical. The founders of our country DIDN'T think slavery was acceptable. It was a separatist group from the south that thought that.
Times were a bit simpler back then. People didn't read much into what was written in the Constitution, so everything had a meaning which has been stretched now.
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Okay, but that still doesn't change the fact that even if they thought Christianity was the only important religion, they were wrong.
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Does it say anywhere that Christianity is the only important religion? Did I say it? No. I'm simply saying that the posting of the Ten Commandments has absolutely no impact on anyone religiously if you look at it through the history of the U.S.
If people keep in mind the basis of the U.S.A, then there should be no problems with the Ten Commandments. People read too much into stuff nowadays. That's why the Ten Commandments has become such an issue.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That says more than not being able to set up a state religion.
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Wow, you are helping me out.
Let's be a little clearer. Separation of Church and State: The government cannot control the church.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That says more than not being able to set up a state religion.
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Wow, you are helping me out.
Let's be a little clearer. Separation of Church and State: The government cannot control the church.
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and the church cannot control the government.
Let's be a little clearer. Separation of Church and State: The government cannot control the church.
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Exactly.
I know someone is going to say that means the Ten Commandments can't be posted...but that's not what it means.
It means that the government can't say "We have a Church of the United States of America, and you must follow its practices."
Sorta. But considering a lot of the Founding Fathers were either Christians or God-fearing people....
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My point exactly. You have to look at the Constitution through the eyes of those who wrote it.
And I also agree with you about the Catholic church. I can not understand how they are the 'original' Christian Church, and yet they themselves do not follow the whole ten commandments.
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Can you explain what you mean by that? I could tell you about Catholics being the original church, but I don't want to be accused of "shoving my religion down your throat." If you are talking about the Virgin Mary, I'll explain that one. Catholics don't pray to the statue, we pray through it. If you don't understand that one, then ask. The Catholic church is not stupid. I don't think they'd break one of the ten commandments like that.
Now this one is very insulting, to anyone who is not Christian, and indeed to even some Christians. For what is a statue of the Virgin Mary but not an idol? And some Christians rever her to the highest degree, and God himself said no idols. So if it can insult a Christian, well...I'm okay with it, I guess.
That's my problem with the Catholic church. And good Christians don't practise pre-marital sex. Unfortunately there are a lot of people that go to church that aren't truly saved. They just grew up going to church, so they keep going "because it's just what you do".
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thats what alot of people call playing church.
Yeah cause this is a Christian Country.
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and the Puritans were nice people.
Yeah cause this is a Christian Country.
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Haha. Do you listen to yourself? Have you really been attending church?
Not everyone is Christian. Just keep repeating that to yourself.