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Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: IceFox on March 21, 2006, 07:18:47 pm
*Dont Bother Replying If You Are Going to Complain About Me Posting a Snippet of The Article Kthnx*

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A man who neighbors say was devoted to his meticulously kept lawn was charged with murder in the shooting of a 15-year-old boy who apparently walked across his yard.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/20/boy.shot.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/20/boy.shot.ap/index.html)

And for those who do not realise the point of this thread, the debate is gun control.
Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: Lil Loco on March 21, 2006, 08:54:25 pm
66 year old man = stupid old fool who hatez kidz...but gun control...well y'all know how i feel about gun control.
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Post by: IZ on March 21, 2006, 09:41:25 pm
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66 year old man = stupid old fool who hatez kidz...but gun control...well y'all know how i feel about gun control.
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Guns may not be solely responsible for killing someone, but they sure do help.
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Post by: Lil Loco on March 22, 2006, 08:39:18 am
if someone iz bent on killing sumone, they're gonna do it with or without gunz.
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Post by: CloneTrooperX on March 22, 2006, 12:15:56 pm
That's extremely stupid. Wha's next? A kid touching somebody's underwear and gets killed?
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Post by: IZ on March 22, 2006, 12:25:50 pm
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if someone iz bent on killing sumone, they're gonna do it with or without gunz.
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The gun gives them more incentive to kill though.
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Post by: IceFox on March 22, 2006, 12:30:44 pm
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if someone iz bent on killing sumone, they're gonna do it with or without gunz.
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The gun gives them more incentive to kill though.
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Thats bull. It gives them more power to killl but the the will to.
Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: IZ on March 22, 2006, 12:43:46 pm
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if someone iz bent on killing sumone, they're gonna do it with or without gunz.
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The gun gives them more incentive to kill though.
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Thats bull. It gives them more power to killl but the the will to.
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If someone has a gun, they're going to have an easier time killing someone, therefore making them more likely to kill someone.
Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: IceFox on March 22, 2006, 12:54:31 pm
But it wont make them kill someone, the will to kill someone is mental. Its you, the person who does it. The gun does not provoke anything, all it does is give the extra power.
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Post by: Elizabeth Rose on March 22, 2006, 10:35:47 pm
There are guns all over my house.  At any moment I could get one and shoot up my family.  However, I will not prove this because I do not will to kill someone.

If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times:  Outlawing guns will only lead to trouble.  Pretty soon we have criminals who don't give a darn about the law anyway, so coincidentally, they have guns.  They come in your house, and what the bloody hell can you do about it?  Well, you die because you had no defense.  The cops can't always be there.

Plus, they make for sexy pictures.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/SilmarwenTinuviel/Elizabeth/Lizgun1.jpg)
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Post by: Lil Loco on March 22, 2006, 11:24:38 pm
w00t, hellz yea.  

gurlz and gunz = my favorite combo.
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Post by: carterhawk on March 22, 2006, 11:55:07 pm
People kill people. Guns are but one of many tools that enable said killing.
Looking at the global murder rate of first world nations, i would say americans are just a bunch of savages compared to other countries....
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Post by: spongebobnet on March 23, 2006, 12:28:28 pm
first of all why did he have a gun
thats so stupid
and one more thing
he should have thought about the consequences before killing that kid
so many weird news
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Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: IceFox on March 23, 2006, 12:32:00 pm
1. Why not have a gun? Self defense? Hunting?
2. He didn't really think. He just snapped, and shot. The article says he called the police right after. It was spur of the moment.
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Post by: spongebobnet on March 23, 2006, 12:38:06 pm
ooohhh he was in the woods
i got an f on reading so i'm bad on comprehension
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Post by: Lil Loco on March 23, 2006, 01:11:42 pm
no, he wasnt in the woods, he was at his house.
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Post by: bub1028 on March 23, 2006, 01:18:18 pm
wow.  that guy has problems.

*anger management*  cough cough achoo sneeze.
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Post by: Thomas on March 27, 2006, 12:25:32 am
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ooohhh he was in the woods
i got an f on reading so i'm bad on comprehension
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Well now....that was a pointless post.
I've warned you three times already. One more warning from me and Im banning you.

As for the topic......

The gun is a meer tool which is handled by the REAL danger: Human.
The human hand is the most lethal weapon, it holds the knife which cuts, it pulls the trigger of a gun, it hits people and throws the grenade.
That guy has issues to deal with....just snapping like that and shooting? He may have called the police afterwards....but I still think he needs his head testing.
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Post by: Lil Loco on March 27, 2006, 08:01:37 am
thank you...finally sumthin me and sarah agree on.
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Post by: ti89titanium on March 31, 2006, 02:29:41 pm
There is a need to control guns, but not take them away fully. people should have self-control. But taking away guns would mean they should take away knives and crowbars, and hands for that matter. They are all killing weapons.
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Post by: The_Man on March 31, 2006, 09:56:11 pm
I heard about that on Howard Stern. It's pretty sad, killing people over silly things, like going on his yard.
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Post by: Thomas on April 04, 2006, 12:59:27 am
There needs to be a tighter law on who can handle guns and/or own them....I think only police and the military can own them.
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Post by: Lil Loco on April 04, 2006, 06:40:24 am
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There needs to be a tighter law on who can handle guns and/or own them....I think only police and the military can own them.
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that last sentence iz incomplete.  the rest of it would be...

"...leaving people defenseless from criminals who are gonna get their hands on guns anyway."
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Post by: Thomas on April 07, 2006, 01:04:47 am
People who own guns, even criminals, should be forced to join the army and get a good a$$-whooping.
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Post by: CloneTrooperX on April 07, 2006, 03:36:39 am
And possibly get their head shot off by  skilled sniper.
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Post by: VulturEMaN on April 07, 2006, 07:17:37 am
With his age being at 66, I think that if he didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have killed the kid.

Plus, I'm sure that many kids had been messin with him over his lawn for a very long time.

People just snap sometimes. But if he didn't have a gun, then snapping would have just been yelling at the kid.

Personally, I woulda planted remote control landmines. When it says 'No walking on the grass', it's for a valid reason. :P
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Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on April 08, 2006, 02:39:49 pm
people kill people no matter what. if we didnt have guns he might have used a bow and arrow...highly unlikely but still, he could have tazered him, u can buy those alot of places. knives work, the old guy lost it, i saw this on the news it happened near us. the kid had harrassed the old man for years with his friends and egged his house and whatnot. they would blast their music real loud and the good lord knows old people go to bed at 8 o clock or earlier. its not at all right that he shot him but i can see where he was coming from.
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Post by: UltraSpongeyDude on April 09, 2006, 12:13:54 pm
That is possibly the stupidest reason for killing anyone ever.

As for the gun control thing, guns dont kill people, people kill people. But I do think that all guns in the world should be recalled and sent on a rocket to pluto.
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Post by: Lil Loco on April 09, 2006, 01:41:37 pm
gun control: "the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, iz somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to the police how her attacker got that bullet wound."
Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on April 12, 2006, 04:52:59 pm
Lil loco ,I dont understand your post, im a bit dence sometimes....

The guy should have called the police before shooting though. At least they could have settled something
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Post by: Lil Loco on April 12, 2006, 06:21:03 pm
itz saying that gun control iz believing that getting gunz out of public handz iz more important than the ability to defend yourself when necessary.

with gun control: the defenseless woman was raped and killed.
without gun control: the woman popped the rapist before he could rape and kill her.

final message: gun control = sux
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Post by: IZ on April 12, 2006, 07:57:50 pm
Gun control isn't completely removing guns.

It's keeping guns away from the people who shouldn't have them.
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Post by: oscar_the_grouch on April 13, 2006, 01:45:07 am
I am jumping into a debate late as usual, and I am too tired to read the entire thread so Im just going to post my two cents.


No matter what you do, people will have guns. Make laws, people will break them. There will be people shot when not deserving it, and there will be people shot who do deserve it. Gun control really doesn't matter. People need to be more decent. That's all.


If that had nothing to do with the debate, Im sorry. Im not reading it all and you all love me so deal with it. :D
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Post by: GIR on April 13, 2006, 01:05:12 pm
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first of all why did he have a gun
thats so stupid
and one more thing
he should have thought about the consequences before killing that kid
so many weird news
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well I own 3 guns (glock 3, a 12 gauge shotty, and a bolt action rifle) and my dad owns 5. The average gun rate per home in america is 1.5. It is normal.

But seriosly if the kid knew the guy was a lawn fanatic, and walking on his lawn knowing that. I say it wasnt a smart choice for the punk teenager. But if the kid did not know that I would have atleast gave the kid a warning or 10 second headstart whicheverway you look at it. guns are great for protection and hunting. but when they are used for unjust murder, that is up to the bearer.

If I was the old man I would have said "young man would you please remove yourself from my lawn in the next 15 seconds, If you do not I will use force" If He still wouldn't I would of hacked that piece of crap into 20 pieces with a meat cleaver.
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Post by: Thomas on April 24, 2006, 12:49:40 am
I would feel more comfortable with the gun issue if so many people did have them illigally.
It's true though, tighter laws need to be inquired for guns.
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Post by: Now that were men on May 10, 2006, 05:29:38 am
The goverment has to be carefull who they give a gun to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer)

This just proves my point.
Title: "I Just Killed A Kid"
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on May 25, 2006, 03:51:29 pm
whatever did happen to him? you dont here about it much anymore