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Off Topic => Everything Else => Debate Den => Topic started by: Daniel on March 05, 2007, 06:32:16 pm
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Yea.. The debate den kinda died. So I made a new topic.
What are your stances on abortion? Should it be legal?
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Yes it should, I'm a firm believer in personal rights.
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no,abortion is murder!
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I am strongly against it. Especially partial birth abortions. Those are the worst. See, a developing embryo may not be considered a viable living person but even terminating a possible life is sick in my books... even in cases of rape or incest. I am totally and 100% against it. I stand strongly on this issue having lost two potential siblings to abortion.
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I am strongly against it. Especially partial birth abortions. Those are the worst. See, a developing embryo may not be considered a viable living person but even terminating a possible life is sick in my books... even in cases of rape or incest. I am totally and 100% against it. I stand strongly on this issue having lost two potential siblings to abortion.
^ There's mine.
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:angry: Abortion is sick and wrong. Whoever does it clearly doesn't care about the future of humankind because abortion is killing a new life.
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Against it, but mothers should have the right to choose whatever they want. It's their role to bear the child, so they should choose.
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Against it, but mothers should have the right to choose whatever they want. It's their role to bear the child, so they should choose.
Then they either
A. Keep their legs closed
B. Have a histerectomy
C. Give the child up for adoption at birth
There are more humane ways than abortion.
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Oh definently. But in the case of rape, what would you do? I'm sure the women wouldn't even want to raise the child. I believe I read that 40% of rape cases aren't reported till after the rape kits can't do anything.
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I'm pro-choice and pro-life.
I'm 100% against it, but 100% for a woman's rights.
I don't understand why women don't consider adoption, though.
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Wow... You just pulled a John Kerry. o.O
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Wow... You just pulled a John Kerry. o.O
Not really...
I'm saying I personally am against abortion. But they still should be able to choose. I'm more pro-life, though.
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I am strongly against it. Especially partial birth abortions. Those are the worst. See, a developing embryo may not be considered a viable living person but even terminating a possible life is sick in my books... even in cases of rape or incest. I am totally and 100% against it. I stand strongly on this issue having lost two potential siblings to abortion.
Aww, really? How sad. :( I was supposed to have been aborted myself.
I hate abortion. It's like killing the victim. When someone is robbed, we punish the person who stole, not the person whose property was stolen. By killing an unborn baby you are killing the most innocent person in the situation. People need to learn to have self control and keep their legs crossed. Always be willing to accept the fact that the condom could break and be ready to accept responsibility if it does. Not to mention that abortions hurt the women having them.
And yes, I realize there will always be rape and incest, but how does killing a baby help the crime? In fact, because women are emotional beings they are very often emotionally scarred for life. Plus, there are MILLIONS of people out there that would love to have a kid of their own but can't. Give the child to them. They want it and are willing to pay lots of money for it.
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I guess I could categorize myself under the same view as patback. But I would understand if it were a rape case to have an abortion. I'm not saying that I like the idea, but that would be the only time when I would support an abortion.
So I guess I'm Mostly-Pro-Life :P
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Against it, but mothers should have the right to choose whatever they want. It's their role to bear the child, so they should choose.
^ my opinion is already stated.
I am also for it in cases of rape.
.....that, and with the burging human population causing sickness and disease to torture those who wish to play no part in the continuation of this mass-breeding, something must be done...abortion is one way around reducing human numbers.
We don't want to end up like THEM. *points at rabbits*
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I don't think Global Overpopulation is gonna happen...
It is happening a bit, BUT, humans are killing each other left and right.
And lets not count out all the deadly diseases...
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I am strongly against it. Especially partial birth abortions. Those are the worst. See, a developing embryo may not be considered a viable living person but even terminating a possible life is sick in my books... even in cases of rape or incest. I am totally and 100% against it. I stand strongly on this issue having lost two potential siblings to abortion.
Aww, really? How sad. :( I was supposed to have been aborted myself.
I hate abortion. It's like killing the victim. When someone is robbed, we punish the person who stole, not the person whose property was stolen. By killing an unborn baby you are killing the most innocent person in the situation. People need to learn to have self control and keep their legs crossed. Always be willing to accept the fact that the condom could break and be ready to accept responsibility if it does. Not to mention that abortions hurt the women having them.
And yes, I realize there will always be rape and incest, but how does killing a baby help the crime? In fact, because women are emotional beings they are very often emotionally scarred for life. Plus, there are MILLIONS of people out there that would love to have a kid of their own but can't. Give the child to them. They want it and are willing to pay lots of money for it.
I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
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I don't really have a definite stance. If they're raped at a very young age then that may seem acceptable, but I still think the baby should live. Then again, a 11-year old giving birth... I'm catholic, so I go with what I believe in. Yes, I agree, let the baby live. Then, if necessary, give it away.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Hmm mental anguish for one of the worst moments in your life (being raped) and you have to suffer through it repeating in your mind over and over again for the next 9 months.....naa I'd pass.
Note: I'm not saying that I want women/girls to have abortions for every rape case. I'm saying that outlawing it would be stupid in this sort of case. If the woman doesn't want to bear the child because she thinks that she can't take the stress, then so be it. We, as males, have no right to decide over a woman's emotions IMO.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Hmm mental anguish for one of the worst moments in your life (being raped) and you have to suffer through it repeating in your mind over and over again for the next 9 months.....naa I'd pass.
Note: I'm not saying that I want women/girls to have abortions for every rape case. I'm saying that outlawing it would be stupid in this sort of case. If the woman doesn't want to bear the child because she thinks that she can't take the stress, then so be it. We, as males, have no right to decide over a woman's emotions IMO.
The mental anguish will be there wether she aborts the baby or not... in fact aborting it would cause even MORE anguish actually, for the mother because then she would feel like a baby killer.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Apparantly, as stated in some psychology books (look something up), adoption can have severely NEGATIVE and disasterous effects to childs mental health.
In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
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In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
Uh... weren't you one? :P
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In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
Uh... weren't you one? :P
Yes I was, but I don't remember anything about it...so in my point of view...I was never a child.
Anyway, that's not the case.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Hmm mental anguish for one of the worst moments in your life (being raped) and you have to suffer through it repeating in your mind over and over again for the next 9 months.....naa I'd pass.
Note: I'm not saying that I want women/girls to have abortions for every rape case. I'm saying that outlawing it would be stupid in this sort of case. If the woman doesn't want to bear the child because she thinks that she can't take the stress, then so be it. We, as males, have no right to decide over a woman's emotions IMO.
The mental anguish will be there wether she aborts the baby or not... in fact aborting it would cause even MORE anguish actually, for the mother because then she would feel like a baby killer.
Ignore the following statement:
I'd rather have a dead lookalike mini-rapist come out of my butt then an alive lookalike mini-rapist .
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I am for it & not, most are probably rape. If not & the dad wasn't wearing a condom well oh well you now have a baby.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Hmm mental anguish for one of the worst moments in your life (being raped) and you have to suffer through it repeating in your mind over and over again for the next 9 months.....naa I'd pass.
Note: I'm not saying that I want women/girls to have abortions for every rape case. I'm saying that outlawing it would be stupid in this sort of case. If the woman doesn't want to bear the child because she thinks that she can't take the stress, then so be it. We, as males, have no right to decide over a woman's emotions IMO.
The mental anguish will be there wether she aborts the baby or not... in fact aborting it would cause even MORE anguish actually, for the mother because then she would feel like a baby killer.
Ignore the following statement:
I'd rather have a dead lookalike mini-rapist come out of my butt then an alive lookalike mini-rapist .
Ignore this statement then...
Abortion makes you the mother of a dead baby. Wow, what a thing to be proud of.
I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
Apparantly, as stated in some psychology books (look something up), adoption can have severely NEGATIVE and disasterous effects to childs mental health.
In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
At least they would be alive... and my stepdad was adopted and he is perfectly fine.
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My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
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I don't know... it is just such a selfish thing to do when it comes down to it. It really is. Abortion just simply disgusts me and my opinion will never change on the matter.
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My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
You're in the USA, so OFCOURSE you wouldn't have learnt it....you're leaning is different from ours. <_<
Read some UK, Japanese or German Psychology books, you will be greatly surprised at the differences in studies and results.
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But Sarah, I know first hand the affects of adoption, and it isn't that bad. My stepdad was adopted and he has no problem with it. At least he didn't get left with a family that didn't care about him.
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My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
You're in the USA, so OFCOURSE you wouldn't have learnt it....you're leaning is different from ours. <_<
Read some UK, Japanese or German Psychology books, you will be greatly surprised at the differences in studies and results.
What's that supposed to mean? Our books are inferior to yours? Gimme a freakin break.
One of my best friends was adopted...He's completely fine...Had a good life and he'll attest to that. My half-brother's dad was adopted...completely normal and happy guy. Cool guy to talk to also. I don't know one adopted person who has issues with their "mental health". It's possible that if a child is adopted and is raised in a miserable upbringing that he/she could develop psychological problems...That doesn't mean that adopted kids are prone to it. Any kid could develop psychological problems under the right circumstances.
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My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
You're in the USA, so OFCOURSE you wouldn't have learnt it....you're leaning is different from ours. <_<
Read some UK, Japanese or German Psychology books, you will be greatly surprised at the differences in studies and results.
What's that supposed to mean? Our books are inferior to yours? Gimme a freakin break.
One of my best friends was adopted...He's completely fine...Had a good life and he'll attest to that. My half-brother's dad was adopted...completely normal and happy guy. Cool guy to talk to also. I don't know one adopted person who has issues with their "mental health". It's possible that if a child is adopted and is raised in a miserable upbringing that he/she could develop psychological problems...That doesn't mean that adopted kids are prone to it. Any kid could develop psychological problems under the right circumstances.
You're jumping to conclusions. I am stating that WE LEARN DIFFERENTLY to you, because your government/education system works differently to Europes.
Do your research first.
I know that there are cases where adoption has no negative effects, but that is just a minority of the population.
Until you can specify a list of the majority of adoptees having no mental damage/harm, then that further relegates the issue that adoption does nothing to mental health.
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My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
You're in the USA, so OFCOURSE you wouldn't have learnt it....you're leaning is different from ours. <_<
Read some UK, Japanese or German Psychology books, you will be greatly surprised at the differences in studies and results.
What's that supposed to mean? Our books are inferior to yours? Gimme a freakin break.
One of my best friends was adopted...He's completely fine...Had a good life and he'll attest to that. My half-brother's dad was adopted...completely normal and happy guy. Cool guy to talk to also. I don't know one adopted person who has issues with their "mental health". It's possible that if a child is adopted and is raised in a miserable upbringing that he/she could develop psychological problems...That doesn't mean that adopted kids are prone to it. Any kid could develop psychological problems under the right circumstances.
You're jumping to conclusions. I am stating that WE LEARN DIFFERENTLY to you, because your government/education system works differently to Europes.
Do your research first.
I know that there are cases where adoption has no negative effects, but that is just a minority of the population.
Until you can specify a list of the majority of adoptees having no mental damage/harm, then that further relegates the issue that adoption does nothing to mental health.
Until you can specify a list of the majority of adoptees having mental damage/harm, then your argument is no more valid. I've yet to meet an adopted person that's messed up the head. Like I said, any child can develop psychological problems, if they're brought up in a miserable environment, regardless of whether or not they were adopted. Mental health of kids depends on a sufficiently stable upbringing, not whether or not your parents are the ones that actually birthed you. Learning that you were adopted, could no doubt bring sadness...My friend was real upset when he first found out he was adopted. But it never bothered him after that...He still loves his adoptive parents and they treat him no different than a real son. He wants to meet his real parents someday but he doesn't really seem to be in a rush. Honestly this kid will probably turn out better than me lol.
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^ Exactly. My best friend is that way too. When she first learned she was adopted she was a little weirded out, but now she realizes it was for the best. Her biological mom was only 17 and couldn't take care of her. Instead, she gave her baby away to a family with a good income who could afford to take care of her properly. My friend is fine. As far as she is concerned her adoptive mom is her mom and she is perfectly happy and normal. When a kid turns out messed up it could be any number of things.
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And even if that child has mental problem at least they are alive and weren't ripped away by a vacuum from their selfish mother's womb. I have YET to meet an adoptee that has major issues with being adopted. Adoption is a very good thing, my stepfather was adopted. And thank god it exists... otherwise you would have more women having abortions or kids who are homeless on the streets with no families.
And I don't know what your textbooks say Sarah... but I am sure your textbooks say different things about the Revolutionary War as well. But on no means, NO MEAN belittle the American education system... we have our flaws as Europeans does... but it doesn't make ours wrong. You have your beliefs, we have ours. I respect your opinions, as I expect the same from you.
Everyone has very different views on something like adoption... but it is not a yes and no subject all the time. It has a lot of gray areas. You get people like me, who are on the far end of opposing it... and then you have people who are on the far end of accepting it... and then you have tons of people in the middle with mixed opinions on the subject...
But it seems to me we are straying away from the issue at hand. Adoption is an entirely different topic.
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I agree 100% percent. And since Im a firm believer in Christianity, you shouldnt remove the miracle of life. Its just like murdering. Do you think it would be pleasant to scramble a babys brain, then suck its guts out? Its just like that and you should respect Gods plan and dont be promiscious. I think abortion is only legal because there are too many dumb sluts who will not learn to use a condom and keep their legs closed.
I guess that the point that I'm trying to make is that I can't see how being raped could even register as a 'miracle of life' in the woman's mind.
But does the fetus growing inside her realize that? Is it the baby's fault that her/his mommy got raped? Give the baby up for adoption or give him/her to family or a close friend. Not that hard, really it isn't.
I agree with you. They should put the baby up for adoptiopn.
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With rape and incest aside... keep your damn legs closed if you are not ready for the possibility of children.
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Honestly speaking, I don't understand the purpose of Abortion, it just creeps me out thinking about it.
I think it should be banned, putting a child up for adoption is a better solution
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Banning it would be even worse. People would start doing it illegally, which is extremely unsafe.
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Banning it would be even worse. People would start doing it illegally, which is extremely unsafe.
Yes.
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I am against abortion on all grounds... honestly. I don't like it, and I don't support it. I had this debate with someone else not to long back so I don't feel like repeating myself here.
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In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
1. So, I'm a disgusting slimeball because I'm 12? I don't think so.
2.And you would kill an innocent baby girl or boy because of your dislike for children?
My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
My best friend Jacob was adopted and he turned out to be a great guy.
I'd rather have a dead lookalike mini-rapist come out of my butt then an alive lookalike mini-rapist .
1.Give the kid to adoption!! It's not like you'll ever see it agian, and if you give it away at a very young age (before the age of one) it's not like the girl/boy's gonna remember you!!
2. Just because the father was a rapist doesn't mean the baby's one.
My best friend was adopted and there is nothing wrong with her. My cousin was also adopted and she's fine too. I'd like to know more about this psychological deal, because I am studying psychology at University and this is the first I've heard of it.
You're in the USA, so OFCOURSE you wouldn't have learnt it....you're leaning is different from ours. <_<
Read some UK, Japanese or German Psychology books, you will be greatly surprised at the differences in studies and results.
So the fact that you're in Europe makes you smarter than me?
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In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
1. So, I'm a disgusting slimeball because I'm 12? I don't think so.
Yes...kids are idiots, and most of the time deserve a good beating.
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In my opinion, all children are disgusting slimeballs. So i couldn't care less.
1. So, I'm a disgusting slimeball because I'm 12? I don't think so.
Yes...kids are idiots, and most of the time deserve a good beating.
Your 15. Your a minor Hence, your a kid.
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Well, in legal terms I am a child.
It is the mentality and ignorance of children I hate, not their physical age.
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Well, in legal terms I am a child.
It is the mentality and ignorance of children I hate, not their physical age.
Ignorance? Defines you VERY well.
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Oblivious defines you very well.
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Oblivious defines you very well.
How am I oblivious? To the fact that your a troll? Not oblivious in the slightest. I just have fun nitpicking trolls until they crumble back under their bridge.
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Pwned.
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Oblivious defines you very well.
How am I oblivious? To the fact that your a troll? Not oblivious in the slightest. I just have fun nitpicking trolls until they crumble back under their bridge.
HEY!
do you remember the show oblivious?
it was genius.
anyway.
AHHAHAHA
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Well, in legal terms I am a child.
It is the mentality and ignorance of children I hate, not their physical age.
Ignorance is why children are so great. They have so much to learn, and everything is still a wonder.
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Innocence is a bit different to ignorance.
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Well, in legal terms I am a child.
It is the mentality and ignorance of children I hate, not their physical age.
umm... you are really starting to make me mad. Just because I'm a kid dosen't mean I don't take a bath or am dirty, and I'm not ignorant. Most kids my age (and younger, for that matter) are really good listeners and follow rules. Ignorance is a common trait usually found in young children, about four or five years of age.
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Innocence is a bit different to ignorance.
Ignorance means uneducated or uninformed, correct?
Aren't children like that?
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yes...
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
But back to serious matters,
Women should have to right to decide. Men stay out of it, and so do politics. Whores will be whores, get pregnant, and so on.
And its hard to give a baby up in most cases, especially after its delivered. So if they decide to keep the baby, the baby goes through hell living with the parent, who more then likely continues to have sex, does drugs, drinks, ect.
They do not nurture the child, and in the long run, they end up with lots of problems as they mature.
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
err.. it's not just the woman's baby. It takes TWO people to make a kid.
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
err.. it's not just the woman's baby. It takes TWO people to make a kid.
This is true, but the women are the one who carry. The majority of men want the women to get an abortion. But ideally the women should have the final say. It is their body, even if they are whores.
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
err.. it's not just the woman's baby. It takes TWO people to make a kid.
This is true, but the women are the one who carry. The majority of men want the women to get an abortion. But ideally the women should have the final say. It is their body, even if they are whores.
Lol, and where did you get that little "fact" from?
Also...Unless you've given birth, I'm pretty sure you don't know what its like either. :P
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
err.. it's not just the woman's baby. It takes TWO people to make a kid.
This is true, but the women are the one who carry. The majority of men want the women to get an abortion. But ideally the women should have the final say. It is their body, even if they are whores.
Lol, and where did you get that little "fact" from?
Go up to any whore who got herself pregnant. More then likely, the man told her to go get an abortion. He doesn't want to be responsible for a kid, he just wants to get pleasured and move on.
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
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*Ahem* *cough*
Back to abortion!
Well. It is a woman's body, and she will do what she wants with it. If you ban abortion, it will just be done illegally (sp i know)
Bottom line, men do not know what it is like to carry a baby around for 9 months. If men had to deliver the babies, every family would only have 1 child.. lol
err.. it's not just the woman's baby. It takes TWO people to make a kid.
This is true, but the women are the one who carry. The majority of men want the women to get an abortion. But ideally the women should have the final say. It is their body, even if they are whores.
Lol, and where did you get that little "fact" from?
Go up to any whore who got herself pregnant. More then likely, the man told her to go get an abortion. He doesn't want to be responsible for a kid, he just wants to get pleasured and move on.
Whores usually don't know who the baby's dad is.
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
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You can't really say matter-of-factly that the guy that gets the girl pregnant is the only one that wants the abortion. Women can want the abortion just as much, if not more since they're the ones that are going to have to deal with it. Even before the father has a say.
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
Are you a lesbian?
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
Are you a lesbian?
Oh yes, you know it ;]
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
Are you a lesbian?
Oh yes, you know it ;]
Figures. Girls who are underage and get pregnant are not always whores, do you consider someone who got raped a whore? Someone who is in a commited relationship?
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
Are you a lesbian?
Oh yes, you know it ;]
Figures. Girls who are underage and get pregnant are not always whores, do you consider someone who got raped a whore? Someone who is in a commited relationship?
No im not lesbian -_-
Bottom line is, it is a women's body, and she should do what she wants with it.
Without her body, the baby would die. If she killed herself, the baby would die.
Let the women decide what they want to do with their body. They want to go and get pregnant, let them. I think Abortion should have trials though.
1st time, its an accident
2nd time its a coincidence
3rd time, its a pattern.
You should be limited to have two abortions. I dont think its right to keep running out and getting it done. But more then twice should be agaisnt the law.
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So most men get into relationships with whores then?
*sighs*
No. When a guy who bangs a girl up and shes pregnant, more then likely if she comes to him saying shes pregnant, he will not be ready to settle down and take responsibility.
In many cases, that seems to be what happens.
Also, if women cannot get abortions, and are going around banging every guy out there, they more then likely have STDS of some sort. Why pass that along to the baby?
Are you a lesbian?
Oh yes, you know it ;]
Figures. Girls who are underage and get pregnant are not always whores, do you consider someone who got raped a whore? Someone who is in a commited relationship?
No im not lesbian -_-
Bottom line is, it is a women's body, and she should do what she wants with it.
Without her body, the baby would die. If she killed herself, the baby would die.
Let the women decide what they want to do with their body. They want to go and get pregnant, let them. I think Abortion should have trials though.
1st time, its an accident
2nd time its a coincidence
3rd time, its a pattern.
You should be limited to have two abortions. I dont think its right to keep running out and getting it done. But more then twice should be agaisnt the law.
If the parents of a two year old died and no one found out (could easily happen) the baby would die.
And just because someone gets pregnant doesn't mean they are a whore. "Whore" is one of the most ignorant terms I have ever heard. Though they should keep their legs closed, it doesn't make necessarily make them a "whore."
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I'm being attacked by all angles here..
I'm going to say that It is a woman's body, let her do what she wishes with it.
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I'm being attacked by all angles here..
I'm going to say that It is a woman's body, let her do what she wishes with it.
Okay, and it's my body and my life so I am going to go commit suicide now. Kthnxbi.
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That was a bad thing to compare it to, really, its on different levels if you ask me.
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That was a bad thing to compare it to, really, its on different levels if you ask me.
His? Yes..
As crazy as it may seem, I belive that if you want to kill yourself, go right ahead. It's your body.
You can mutilate, peirce, scar, tattoo, and wreck your body up anyway you want. It is yours.
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
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how many of these topics have there been over the yrs. in here?!! :angry:
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Too many...
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
Yeah I don't agree with the whole "limited" idea. That's like saying you can only kill two people, THEN you'll go to trial.
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
Yeah I don't agree with the whole "limited" idea. That's like saying you can only kill two people, THEN you'll go to trial.
hmm.
But people will think more about it. Maybe you should only have 1 abortion. You choose whether or not you really want to do this.
I think maybe paying a huge fine would also make people think before getting pregnant and getting an abortion.
Or, being charged with murder as soon as you decide to get the abortion.
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
Yeah I don't agree with the whole "limited" idea. That's like saying you can only kill two people, THEN you'll go to trial.
hmm.
But people will think more about it. Maybe you should only have 1 abortion. You choose whether or not you really want to do this.
I think maybe paying a huge fine would also make people think before getting pregnant and getting an abortion.
Or, being charged with murder as soon as you decide to get the abortion.
For the last one, if you get charged for it then that would make it illegal...
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
Yeah I don't agree with the whole "limited" idea. That's like saying you can only kill two people, THEN you'll go to trial.
hmm.
But people will think more about it. Maybe you should only have 1 abortion. You choose whether or not you really want to do this.
I think maybe paying a huge fine would also make people think before getting pregnant and getting an abortion.
Or, being charged with murder as soon as you decide to get the abortion.
For the last one, if you get charged for it then that would make it illegal...
That's not what I ment. I should of been more clear.
Hmm.. After having more then one [abortion] that is when you will be charged. You still have 1 chance, but only one.
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Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
This is true.
That is why I think abortion should only be limited..
Yeah I don't agree with the whole "limited" idea. That's like saying you can only kill two people, THEN you'll go to trial.
hmm.
But people will think more about it. Maybe you should only have 1 abortion. You choose whether or not you really want to do this.
I think maybe paying a huge fine would also make people think before getting pregnant and getting an abortion.
Or, being charged with murder as soon as you decide to get the abortion.
For the last one, if you get charged for it then that would make it illegal...
That's not what I ment. I should of been more clear.
Hmm.. After having more then one [abortion] that is when you will be charged. You still have 1 chance, but only one.
Yeah, the more than one abortion would be illegal.
Yeah I meant his. And yes I think the same. But Suicide is a totally different thing than "doing whatever you like with your body" you know? That takes it to another level. Even though ABORTIONNNNNNN is like killing a baby because its your baby.
Let me change suicide to cut myself. It's my body, so I might as well be able to harm it. The reason I used suicide is because in both events, it is taking a life pointlessly when more could have been done to save it.
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Let me change suicide to cut myself. It's my body, so I might as well be able to harm it. The reason I used suicide is because in both events, it is taking a life pointlessly when more could have been done to save it.
Word.
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You can hear a baby's heart beat at three weeks... and you are going to tell me it isn't alive yet? That baby is an existing life the second of conception. It is murder. Plain and simple. You can't pussyfoot around it.
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I don't care about much but abortion really steams me because it is the senseless murder of a child because peple to retarded to use a condom andbirthcontrol even then you could put the child up for adoptions.
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
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I sometimes wish someone would make the decision for us, tell us whats right, so we can stop arguing because everyones never going to be on the same side. This goes for alot of things.
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
I think it would be punishing the doctor moreso...
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Well they'd probly both get punished.
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
I think it would be punishing the doctor moreso...
If a woman wanted to get an illegal abortion, and knew it was illegal, are you trying to tell me that she wouldn't get some sort of jailtime for the killing of a living thing then??
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
I think it would be punishing the doctor moreso...
If a woman wanted to get an illegal abortion, and knew it was illegal, are you trying to tell me that she wouldn't get some sort of jailtime for the killing of a living thing then??
Remember that guy, who used to perform suicides for people, like he would murder them? The people who wanted him to do it didn't get punished. He did.
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
I think it would be punishing the doctor moreso...
If a woman wanted to get an illegal abortion, and knew it was illegal, are you trying to tell me that she wouldn't get some sort of jailtime for the killing of a living thing then??
Remember that guy, who used to perform suicides for people, like he would murder them? The people who wanted him to do it didn't get punished. He did.
Dr. Jack Kevorkian.
and he wasn't murdering people. They were the ones who chose to die. It was all completely in their control. They were all terminally ill people who wanted to end their suffering.
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If abortion is made illegal, then how much jailtime should the woman get?
I think it would be punishing the doctor moreso...
If a woman wanted to get an illegal abortion, and knew it was illegal, are you trying to tell me that she wouldn't get some sort of jailtime for the killing of a living thing then??
Remember that guy, who used to perform suicides for people, like he would murder them? The people who wanted him to do it didn't get punished. He did.
Dr. Jack Kevorkian.
and he wasn't murdering people. They were the ones who chose to die. It was all completely in their control. They were all terminally ill people who wanted to end their suffering.
But he was the one that got punished, I mean there were people who still wanted to get it done and they weren't put in jail for just simply wanting it.
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What are they gonna charge em for? Wanting to kill themselves?
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Kevorkian is a completely different story.
I still haven't heard anyone put a number of years behind bars on the woman's life when she wants to take her child's life illegally.
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me either. aborton is like killing your baby, but if a woman wants to do it, fine by me, it's her body and i don't care that much. However, if the girl is a whore, she should take responsibility for her actions and i do not think she deserves an aborton. Again, However, if the girl is raped, she deserves an abortion because getting pregnant was not her fault.