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Off Topic => Everything Else => Debate Den => Topic started by: Patrick_Star's_Girlfriend on September 09, 2004, 08:53:46 pm
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Personally, I think abortion is for people who etheir got raped or is under 18. I don't think people who are in ther 30's and have a good life but don't want a child aren't suitable for abortion.
What do you think( I think we all know`what MaraclPlz feels about this.)
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I think it's wrong, because IMO it's killing unborn babies.
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Abortion is poopy
It should be illegal
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^ I AGREE!
ITS WRONG! :closedeyes:
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I agree with both of you.
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no opinon
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It's wrong. Read my sig. plus the baby suffers as it is ripped to peices with a vacuumm. Some babies die by chance, NONE should die by choice. It's not a choice, it's an industry.
and if they are under 18, THEIR FAULT no one is better off dead. if rapped...not their fault but it's still murder. you can't kill someone for being a burdern to you. Murder.
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It IS murder, but if the person wants to have an abortion is their choice. George Bush shouldn't take away someone's rights.
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I dont believe that anyone should be able to make another persons choice on what they should do when it comes to abortion it is up to that person and the whole murder issue they will have to deal with on their own,,
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Yes, it should be LEGAL. It is the mothers choice. When someone gets raped and has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy. Taking away someone's right is stupid.
For you who say it is living, here. Now we can't kill a bug? It should be illegal? And if I cut some skin off, it is a living thing. It has rights too?
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You can't honestly have an opinion on this subject until you yourself are faced with the dilemma. Don't try and say "Nope. I shall always be against abortion." Because that is not always the case. I had a friend who was always against it in religion class debates. And then she got pregnant. Guess what she ended up doing. That's right. She got an abortion. Honestly, if a woman wants an abortion, and it's illegal and she doesn't have the abortion, she'll end up not loving her child. Do you really want that?
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It's wrong. Read my sig. plus the baby suffers as it is ripped to peices with a vacuumm. Some babies die by chance, NONE should die by choice. It's not a choice, it's an industry.
and if they are under 18, THEIR FAULT no one is better off dead. if rapped...not their fault but it's still murder. you can't kill someone for being a burdern to you. Murder.
Wtf? It is not their fault if they got raped.
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If rape is the case, I think it would be better to have the child, and put it up for adoption. There are so many couples that can't have children, and would love to take the baby off of your hands. If the pregnancy is dangering the mother's life, I think that an abortion should be allowed. But I don't think you should be allowed to have an abortion because of a foolish mistake that you made with your boyfriend.
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Your killing something that isn't even there sometimes....what is wrong with that?
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no opinon
No opinion? Why did you post?
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Because it's one of the poll choices...
Anyway, I think it is WRONG! I believe you should get baby into adoption. Because the baby wont be unhealthy, you may never know.
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
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So, it's a punishment for you...know.
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Yeah, but the baby won't like it?
Its a punishment for the BABY.
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
Oh, I guess you know SO much about it!
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
Oh, I guess you know SO much about it!
Its a proven fact, stupid,
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
Oh, I guess you know SO much about it!
Its a proven fact, stupid,
Don't mess with ps2k3...he'll own you
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Well, I don't really suppoirt it, but I don't find anything really wrong with it. It's their choice. They should be allowed.
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Well, I don't really suppoirt it, but I don't find anything really wrong with it. It's their choice. They should be allowed.
Eh...too many things wrong with it
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There are so many couples that can't have children, and would love to take the baby off of your hands.
Okay. If someone really wants to adopt a child, they can adopt a child from China. Trust me. They can. China has a law...you can only have so many children, and no abortions, so hey, guess what, all the other children are taken from their parents and put up for adoption, or worse. I know this is true. My cousin is adopted, and she's Chinese. And my aunt had a program and she managed to get over forty chinese babies adopted. Why did she do this? Because she saw what it's like for these poor children over in China. I think it's more important to get them into good homes.
And think about being a product of a rape. If adopted, at age eighteen they can find out who their mother is, and when they go ask her why she put them up for adoption she gets to say, "Hey, I don't feel like seeing a reminder of a rape every day of my life." Nice thing for a child to find out. Their father was a rapist. OR, if the mother DOES keep the child, and later on the child keeps asking why he doesn't have a daddy, what's she supposed to say?
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I don't like it, but I don't believe the government should take away that freedom.
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If rape is the case, I think it would be better to have the child, and put it up for adoption.
Well what if the kid dosen't want to go through all the pain, and besides, in half cases, their bodies could get damaged.
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If rape is the case, I think it would be better to have the child, and put it up for adoption.
Well what if the kid dosen't want to go through all the pain, and besides, in half cases, their bodies could get damaged.
The kid will be too young...
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The are certain freedoms that can not be conmsidered something in any decent society free. I'm putting it mildly. I have such a whole violant hatred for this sort of thing. There is no convincing anyone who has been brainwashed into beliving it is a freedom.
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Abortion kills the innocent. Vote for George W. Bush, and he will do what he can to stop this "human right." Nobody has the right to die by someone else's choice. How would you like it if you were an abortion? Remember, EVERY ABORTED FETUS even if the size of a thumb, could be another genius, another doctor, another scientist that could cure cancer, or a Cmonkey.
Hmm, judging by your logic, every aborted fetus could also turn out to be a brutal dictator, a mass murderer, or a serial rapist. If you're going to look at one side of it, you have to look at the other as well.
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I saw a bumper sticker just a few minutes ago that said:
It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you can live as you may
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no opinon
No opinion? Why did you post?
TO Spam and raise Post Count anyway,
if they do get raped then why have some losers baby?
i mean sometimes abortion is good, other times it's bad...
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no opinon
No opinion? Why did you post?
TO Spam and raise Post Count anyway,
if they do get raped then why have some losers baby?
i mean sometimes abortion is good, other times it's bad...
Name times where it could be good
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no opinon
No opinion? Why did you post?
TO Spam and raise Post Count anyway,
if they do get raped then why have some losers baby?
i mean sometimes abortion is good, other times it's bad...
Name times where it could be good
I'm gonna hijack this one.
Where the mother's body could be damaged by giving birth. There's alot of other reasons but they would probably get moderated.
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There IS absolutely NO good reason why abortion exists. It's just like guns, there is no good reason why we have them.
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Lies. Say someone breaks into your house with a knife, and you shoot him in order to protect your family.
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Lies. Say someone breaks into your house with a knife, and you shoot him in order to protect your family.
Psstt..wrong. That isn't good, because I'll go to jail. Killing someone for protection = Not self-defense.
Abortion always ends up murdering someone. They may not be born, but they will one day.
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That's perfectly legal to shoot someone in self-defense.
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No, it is self defense. Someone is about to stab you and you need to protect yourself and your family.
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That's perfectly legal to shoot someone in self-defense.
We had a woman who did that in our area, her husband was about to abuse her, and she shot him. Now she's in jail.
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Okay, I would never get an abortion, but I still don't want that right taken away from me..I don't necessarily think that abortion is right, or that it is wrong...but it's different for every person. Everyone has their own point of view, and our government shouldn't be trying to take that away from us.
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That's perfectly legal to shoot someone in self-defense.
We had a woman who did that in our area, her husband was about to abuse her, and she shot him. Now she's in jail.
A knife is life threatening, not abuse. You report abuse to the police, if someone is gonna kill you right there and then you can kill the person.
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Abortion is murder! End of story! Life begins at conception!!! Go ahead! Let them just rip it out! Let them rip it out with a vacuum and throw it in the garbage for all you care! If your parents were pro-choice, you have a chance of not being here. It's sick. It's wrong. It's not a choice. It's murder in the first degree. It must not be kept legal. If you say people would still do it, than put them in jail for life for murder 1. Good plan. Bush is thinkining about it. He needs a 2nd term. Kerry supports partial birth abortion, which Bush banned. This is where the baby is completly developed and killed. It is just as bad as regular abortion. It's all the same thing. Another poor, unborn kid. Pro-choice people make me sick. I have no respect for their opinions. None. Zippo. Nada. I can not picture how anyone can be so sick and cruel!!!
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Well, you yourself are being cruel. If you haven't noticed there are a lot of people here that are pro-choice. You're just trying to get on their bad sides MSP. God said Love Thy Neighbor. I don't think he honestly meant your actual neighbour, I think he meant people who don't have the same beliefs as you.
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No one ,even if attacked physically, should get thier child aborted, because, no matter what others, or yourself might deem, undesireable, or unwanted; no matter how bad under any circumstance, that kid could enjoy lots of thing in life, like SpongeBob, and bad times in life. But we Pro-life/Anti-Abortion know how wrong you pro-choice/pro-death people are because it is so violantly wrong. Please, to all people who think it is a choice, change your mind! Please. If you were one how would you like it. And don't say than I wouldn't be here or I dunno how life works. You know, you're just glad YOU made it through. *disgusted*
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And don't speak of GOD to me. His suffering on the cross was so greatly increased thanks to people like that...
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Who ever said I'm glad I made it through? Like ::Dolphin Noise:: I did. Please don't tell me what I think. My life is crap and the only thing that makes it worthwhile is music, and STILL I'm being ridiculed by my family about my choice in music.
Tell me, have you EVER changed your view of a certain topic? Ever? Honestly? Because I have. And one of those points of views was indeed religion. I used to be Christian. I believed in God, Christ, all that good stuff. Then I went to a Catholic High School. Changed my whole outlook on religion. Especially, when, as a protestant, I knew more about the Bible then all the Catholics.
And don't just TELL people to change their minds.
Personally, it's the mother's choice. If she wants to get the abortion then she gets one. Sometimes it's for the better. Would you want a mother who DIDN'T want to have you? That you were an accident and she couldn't get rid of you?
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I'd prefer to LIVE. There is never any winnining this debate for the wrong side. It's impossible. You can only think you've won. Pro-life people are 100% right and that is final!!!
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Would you want a mother who DIDN'T want to have you? That you were an accident and she couldn't get rid of you?
At least I'd be able to live, and start a new life once I was old enough. Instead of being killed. That "mother's choice" stuff is B.S. :dry:
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Would you want a mother who DIDN'T want to have you? That you were an accident and she couldn't get rid of you?
At least I'd be able to live, and start a new life once I was old enough. Instead of being killed. That "mother's choice" stuff is B.S. :dry:
I agree. If you don't want a kid, then don't....... take measures that have the chance of getting you pregnant.
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At least I'd be able to live, and start a new life once I was old enough. Instead of being killed. That "mother's choice" stuff is B.S. :dry:
That doesn't always happen. I had a dear friend who had a horrible homelife because right from the start she was called an accident. She was very depressed, and after failing a class and getting yelled at, tried to commit suicide. Luckily, she failed at that, and now she's getting help. And she no longer lives with her family.
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I'd prefer to LIVE. There is never any winnining this debate for the wrong side. It's impossible. You can only think you've won. Pro-life people are 100% right and that is final!!!
Very mature, MSP.
Different people have different opinions...
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That doesn't always happen. I had a dear friend who had a horrible homelife because right from the start she was called an accident. She was very depressed, and after failing a class and getting yelled at, tried to commit suicide. Luckily, she failed at that, and now she's getting help. And she no longer lives with her family.
That's what I mean. At least the kid gets a chance at life.
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Yeah, well she tried to end it herself. Doesn't make much sense to me. Suffer longer and then just kill yourself? Yeah right.
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Once again, I had a post, and it got deleted for no reason. Anyways, my post was:
What is abortion?
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I think it is like killing babies if there are too many or something.
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Yeah, well she tried to end it herself. Doesn't make much sense to me. Suffer longer and then just kill yourself? Yeah right.
I refuse even to acknowledge SpongeTronX's post. But I gotta ask whom I'm quoting: what's that supposed to mean?
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If you do not know what an abortion is, don't post in here.
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Yeah, well she tried to end it herself. Doesn't make much sense to me. Suffer longer and then just kill yourself? Yeah right.
I refuse even to acknowledge SpongeTronX's post. But I gotta ask whom I'm quoting: what's that supposed to mean?
My friend was an accident. Her parents didn't want her, and they made sure she knew. So she tried to kill herself. Why? Because she wasn't loved by her parents. So in her case, she thinks, "Why did they make me suffer? They shoulda just got an abortion. I wouldn't be here in this craphole, and they wouldn't have a kid to weigh them down."
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Who ever said I'm glad I made it through? Like ::Dolphin Noise:: I did. Please don't tell me what I think. My life is crap and the only thing that makes it worthwhile is music, and STILL I'm being ridiculed by my family about my choice in music.
Tell me, have you EVER changed your view of a certain topic? Ever? Honestly? Because I have. And one of those points of views was indeed religion. I used to be Christian. I believed in God, Christ, all that good stuff. Then I went to a Catholic High School. Changed my whole outlook on religion. Especially, when, as a protestant, I knew more about the Bible then all the Catholics.
And don't just TELL people to change their minds.
Personally, it's the mother's choice. If she wants to get the abortion then she gets one. Sometimes it's for the better. Would you want a mother who DIDN'T want to have you? That you were an accident and she couldn't get rid of you?
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I can really relate to that.
REALLY relate.
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
Wow, where are the sources for that may I ask? As far as I know women 100 or so years ago were getting married and having healthy babies so I'm curious on that one. I don't believe they have unhealthy kids.
I am for absolutely NO abortion. It's wrong no matter what. If you're 14 and get pregnant then it's your own fault. I don't mean to come off as a hateful individual (because I'm not, I promise) but it's true. Think before you act please.
In the case of rape, you really should have your kid. What did that kid do to you that deserved death? Just put it up for adoption; there are millions who will have and love that child more than willingly.
For the most part people need to learn to act responsibly. If you do not want kids do not get pregnant.
By the way, you never know what you are snuffing out. Edgar Allen Poe was illegitimate.
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Abortion should be abolished except under 2 circumstances, and maybe more if i'm forgetting anything:
1. When a woman is raped
2. When the birth of the baby could threaten the health of the mother
If America got half a brain they could easily decrease the % of teens having sex. All they would have to do is abolish abortion, forcing the girls that made a stupid decision to suffer to consequences. When a couple realizes if an "accident" happens that nothing can be done to prevent it, they become less likely to let the "accident" occur
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SSS, if a teenage mother has a baby, the baby will be unhealthy...
Wow, where are the sources for that may I ask? As far as I know women 100 or so years ago were getting married and having healthy babies so I'm curious on that one. I don't believe they have unhealthy kids.
I am for absolutely NO abortion. It's wrong no matter what. If you're 14 and get pregnant then it's your own fault. I don't mean to come off as a hateful individual (because I'm not, I promise) but it's true. Think before you act please.
In the case of rape, you really should have your kid. What did that kid do to you that deserved death? Just put it up for adoption; there are millions who will have and love that child more than willingly.
For the most part people need to learn to act responsibly. If you do not want kids do not get pregnant.
By the way, you never know what you are snuffing out. Edgar Allen Poe was illegitimate.
Um, you're my sister, aren't you.
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I think its wrong, its murder. I didn't know they had such a thing for a long time. Its a wonder I'm not throwing up at our country's motto.
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If you're 14 and get pregnant then it's your own fault.
Going across this one again, it's not their fault if they get raped.
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If you're 14 and get pregnant then it's your own fault.
Going across this one again, it's not their fault if they get raped.
Yeah...
A rape is a man doing it when the woman doesn't want it.
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If you're 14 and get pregnant then it's your own fault.
Going across this one again, it's not their fault if they get raped.
No, not usually your own fault in that case but I did address my opinions on rape. =)
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Well, you are right, but you are being too polite. You must mkae people feel guilty about it. See, life is winninig this poll.
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Well, you are right, but you are being too polite. You must mkae people feel guilty about it. See, life is winninig this poll.
Life isnt about winning...
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He means those in favor of it - duh!
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I have mixed feelings about it and mostly i agree with .com person
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I was walking home from school today I saw this car that had this bumper sticker that saidIf you don't like abortion, Then don't have one I actually had to agree. I still have mixed feelings about it though.
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Its their Life Who cares
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If you were an abortion you'd have no opinion at all and never get to see SpongeBob or play Mario Games or do alll the other stuff that makes like beautiful. How can anyone say abortion is anyhting else but murder?
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If you were an abortion you'd have no opinion at all and never get to see SpongeBob or play Mario Games or do alll the other stuff that makes like beautiful. How can anyone say abortion is anyhting else but murder?
Well if I was an aborted baby I wouldn't be thinking that, now would I?
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If you were an abortion you'd have no opinion at all and never get to see SpongeBob or play Mario Games or do alll the other stuff that makes like beautiful. How can anyone say abortion is anyhting else but murder?
I hafta agree with him on there.