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Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Patrick_Star's_Girlfriend on September 12, 2004, 09:08:25 am
Ok. I know there been topics like this before. I know some of you don't like gays. I wanna know why? I'm from a very liberal part of California where no one minds gays so I'm kinda new to the homophioc world. Tell me why you hate them or if you don't hate them. thanks alot.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Squiddy on September 12, 2004, 09:10:05 am
I don't hate them....to me they are just people?
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 12, 2004, 09:11:51 am
I don't hate them. They have no choice in who they like, and to be made fun of just because your different is wrong. Definitly banishment of it is completely stupid. There is a thing called the 1st admendment(sp?). Each man should be treated EQUALLY.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Squiddy on September 12, 2004, 09:13:06 am
Banned Homosexuality is like saying..you have to dress one way!

 
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: AppleNick on September 12, 2004, 09:13:15 am
There's nothing wrong with it. That's another rreason Bush shouldn't be voted for.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: MiraclrPlz on September 12, 2004, 10:25:31 am
I don't hate them at all but they shouldn't do nasty things with egother that causes AIDS and they should have marriage rights and be able to adopt kids under marriage-type bondage, etc.  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ~angelene's dreams on September 12, 2004, 10:26:53 am
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I don't hate them. They have no choice in who they like, and to be made fun of just because your different is wrong. Definitly banishment of it is completely stupid. There is a thing called the 1st admendment(sp?). Each man should be treated EQUALLY.
omg!!!  we agree on something!!!   :biggrin:  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Squiddy on September 12, 2004, 10:29:41 am
I don't agree with alot of stuff Andrew says..I think this is the first them that I agree with him too!
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: lamaclown on September 12, 2004, 10:30:42 am
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I don't hate them. They have no choice in who they like, and to be made fun of just because your different is wrong. Definitly banishment of it is completely stupid. There is a thing called the 1st admendment(sp?). Each man should be treated EQUALLY.
I absolutely agree with you on that one. :original:  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: MiraclrPlz on September 12, 2004, 10:31:46 am
I never said they shouldn't be treated equally I said same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed!  Bush is right.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Squiddy on September 12, 2004, 10:35:08 am
And why shouldn't they be...
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 12, 2004, 10:40:53 am
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I never said they shouldn't be treated equally I said same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed!  Bush is right.
Well, if homeosexuals can't marry. That means they are not treated as same as the straight people.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: MiraclrPlz on September 12, 2004, 10:42:17 am
No, marriage is ment to be between an man and a woman.  And it will stay that way.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Squiddy on September 12, 2004, 10:42:39 am
MSP....What is wrong with gay marrige anyways?
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: IZ on September 12, 2004, 10:56:46 am
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I don't hate them. They have no choice in who they like, and to be made fun of just because your different is wrong. Definitly banishment of it is completely stupid. There is a thing called the 1st admendment(sp?). Each man should be treated EQUALLY.
That's the declaration of independance. XD

 
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: MiraclrPlz on September 12, 2004, 11:05:55 am
No one ever thought of same-sex marriage as a possible thing back in the Colonial Era.  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 12, 2004, 11:30:01 am
Who cares about something back then?
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ~angelene's dreams on September 12, 2004, 11:30:58 am
As an out-of-the-closet atheist, I cannot allow a religious reason to determine whether or not I'm allowed to do something or not.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Banana on September 12, 2004, 11:33:10 am
I'm a Christian, and I don't agree with it, but I'm not like totally against it.  I treat gays like any other people.  They never did anythng to us, did they?
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: IZ on September 12, 2004, 11:34:27 am
If you support a ban on gay marriages, you support non married people having sex.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Daniel on September 12, 2004, 01:40:49 pm
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I don't hate them at all but they shouldn't do nasty things with egother that causes AIDS and they should have marriage rights and be able to adopt kids under marriage-type bondage, etc.
Same here.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Gideon Brown on September 12, 2004, 02:20:45 pm
Way back when, in Ancient Greece, the older men encouraged the younger men who were not married to have homosexual relationships. So, it's not like being gay has only been around for the past century, it's been around looong before Jesus Christ was ever born.
And if you don't believe me, take an ancient history class. You learn a lot of things in that class.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on September 12, 2004, 06:27:05 pm
I don't hate them. I just hate what they practice. It is like the bible says, love the sinner... hate the sin.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Megan on September 12, 2004, 06:35:51 pm
People who don't support it drive me crazy. They can never seem to give a good reason. If someone wants to do something, and it doesn't affect you, WHY THE HECK DO YOU CARE!?!?!?! It's not like they are coming right up to you and going, "Look! We got married and we're the same gender! Oh..Whatcha Gonna DO!" Just deal with it. It's their choice about their lives.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 12, 2004, 06:36:29 pm
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People who don't support it drive me crazy. They can never seem to give a good reason. If someone wants to do something, and it doesn't affect you, WHY THE HECK DO YOU CARE!?!?!?! It's not like they are coming right up to you and going, "Look! We got married and we're the same gender! Oh..Whatcha Gonna DO!" Just deal with it. It's their choice about their lives.
Exactly. I could not agree more.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on September 12, 2004, 06:41:25 pm
I don't support it simply because I believe if gays got married the divorce rating in America would soar even higher. Also I know this may upset you, but my religion forbades it. It is just the way I am. I just don't think it is plausable. Gays just can't get the same thing out of a marriage a straight couple can, in my opinion.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: IZ on September 12, 2004, 07:01:11 pm
"Congress shall make no law respecting any establishment of religion".
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on September 12, 2004, 07:05:19 pm
Hmm. Well, they're is a point there since there are so many different religions and the laws would conflict with each other to much.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: SpongeQueen on September 13, 2004, 07:46:42 am
I am not exactly for it nor against it...... "To each their own"!!!
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Greg on September 13, 2004, 09:23:30 am
#1 its gross
#2 Its wrong
#3 they can't have kids
#4 Weird
#5 I just hate them :happy:
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 13, 2004, 11:08:15 am
#3 is wrong...they CAN have kids...its called adoption
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 13, 2004, 11:45:48 am
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#1 its gross
#2 Its wrong
#3 they can't have kids
#4 Weird
#5 I just hate them :happy:
1,2, and 4 are the same thing...

And 3 is incorrect. As ssj said, they can adopt. And 5 is an opinion....

No facts in the post.. sad.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 13, 2004, 11:46:39 am
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#1 its gross
#2 Its wrong
#3 they can't have kids
#4 Weird
#5 I just hate them :happy:
1,2, and 4 are the same thing...

And 3 is incorrect. As ssj said, they can adopt. And 5 is an opinion....

No facts in the post.. sad.
They aren't necessarily the same thing but I guess they could be
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Starr2k3 on September 13, 2004, 11:48:24 am
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#1 its gross
#2 Its wrong
#3 they can't have kids
#4 Weird
#5 I just hate them :happy:
1,2, and 4 are the same thing...

And 3 is incorrect. As ssj said, they can adopt. And 5 is an opinion....

No facts in the post.. sad.
They aren't necessarily the same thing but I guess they could be
Well, only one of them needs to be said. They are all in the same direction.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: DoomBringer316 on September 13, 2004, 11:49:03 am
It's not a question of being ethical; it's a question of what marriage is. The church defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Since marriages are associated with the church, I don't believe we should have the federal government ban it, but I'm not so sure about it being called marriage. It's not like I care at all- I am in no way religious and I have nothing against gays. It's just something that's been since the church began.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Gideon Brown on September 13, 2004, 11:53:42 am
Marriage is not just in the Christian faith. Nor is it just in the Islamic or Jewish faith. It goes back far before Christianity.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: DoomBringer316 on September 13, 2004, 08:48:36 pm
Oh, no doubt, but that's not the point. I don't believe (I could be wrong) that any religious establishments allowed a marriage between two of the same sex. That was the point of my argument. And besides, MOST of the country today happens to be Christian.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Patrick_Star's_Girlfriend on September 13, 2004, 09:13:39 pm
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No one ever thought of same-sex marriage as a possible thing back in the Colonial Era.
Look. Alot of people hated blacks back then. So if your saying things should be treated like back then, then your saying blacks sould be treated like crap. I think your rasis
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 13, 2004, 09:19:53 pm
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No one ever thought of same-sex marriage as a possible thing back in the Colonial Era.
Look. Alot of people hated blacks back then. So if your saying things should be treated equaly then your saying blacks sould be treated like crap. I think your rasis
I don't see anything that has anything to do with racists remarks
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Gideon Brown on September 14, 2004, 06:11:24 am
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Oh, no doubt, but that's not the point. I don't believe (I could be wrong) that any religious establishments allowed a marriage between two of the same sex. That was the point of my argument. And besides, MOST of the country today happens to be Christian.
I've already mentioned this, but the Ancient Greeks were into homosexuality. I'm not certain if they had marriages, but I do know that the older men wanted to get into the younger men's pants.  :blink:   Kinda wrong, but true.  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Isnt Anything on September 14, 2004, 01:55:19 pm
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I'm a Christian, and I don't agree with it, but I'm not like totally against it.  I treat gays like any other people.  They never did anythng to us, did they?
No, and you shouldnt treat them any different. I personally believe they choose to be that way rather than be born that way. Otherwise why would they too have reproductive organs? I personally thing gay marrage is a waste of time. Lets say a gay couple has been together for 15 or so years, living together and everything. They decide to get married. There is no real change in the life style. They've been living together for years. Now all that happens is, they have a piece of paper that says they are married according to the state. Its not so much about the idea of getting married, but an equal rights issue. They just want the same rights of other people. I dont think this should've been picked to excerise equal rights, but it was never really brought up before. I wont cry if it does become legal, nor will I protest, but I can say "only in America".  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: IZ on September 14, 2004, 04:31:32 pm
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I'm a Christian, and I don't agree with it, but I'm not like totally against it.  I treat gays like any other people.  They never did anythng to us, did they?
I personally thing gay marrage is a waste of time. Lets say a gay couple has been together for 15 or so years, living together and everything. They decide to get married. There is no real change in the life style. They've been living together for years. Now all that happens is, they have a piece of paper that says they are married according to the state.
Exactly, which all banning gay marriages will do is stop them from getting formally married.  
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Gideon Brown on September 14, 2004, 04:48:39 pm
Technically, they want marriage for money reasons. Money. That about says it all, and is why certain people don't want the gays getting married. Which is stupid.
Question though, when you think of a gay person, what do you picture?
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: Sb129 on September 14, 2004, 05:45:38 pm
(caveman talk)Sb129 think they weird.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: GrEeNdAyFrEaK on September 14, 2004, 07:36:31 pm
I accept Homosexuality, but I don't condone it. In other words, i'm not going to treat homosexuals any different than I would anyone else, but I don't agree with their decision. Same deal with Gay Marriage: i'll accept it, but I don't condone it. Personally, I think if they gave gays the same marriage rights but used a different word for it like....... Snargelfork (XD)... it would probably make everyone happy: for the democrats, they're getting the same rights, for the republicans, "Marriage" is still defined like they want it to be
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: IceFox on September 16, 2004, 03:26:54 pm
Who's deleting my replies? I had a reply in hre, and in a welcoming to Greg.
Title: Homosexuals
Post by: ssj4gogita4 on September 16, 2004, 04:08:31 pm
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(caveman talk)Sb129 think they weird.
Eh...I think you weird... :tongue:

Why can't governments leave things alone?