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Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Fifth Dynasty on November 03, 2004, 02:24:16 pm
Bill Clinton, one of the best presidents we have had. In my opinion, Franklin J. Roosevelt is the greatest, followed by John F. Kennedy. Clinton is almost up to Kennedy. Think about all the good stuff this man did to our country. He's the man that fixed our economy after Bush Sr. screwed it over. The funny thing is, when Clinton left office we were ZERO dollars in debt. Heh, 4 years later we are 7 TRILLION dollars in debt thanks to Bush. Anyways-Back on track. A lot of people I talk to always say Clinton sucked. Why? Just because he had an affair with Monica Lewinski? Is that our problem? No, that's Clinton's. Who else agrees with me that this man is indeed a wonderful president?

Post your own thoughts and opinions about Clinton.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on November 03, 2004, 02:25:52 pm
Bill was bad. even tho he was for kerry, he still was bad. sucked.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Gideon Brown on November 03, 2004, 02:31:25 pm
Heh...Bill didn't suck...Lewinski did *giggles* sorry...I had to.
Personally, from my Canadian perspective, Clinton was much better than Bush.  
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: cmonkey on November 03, 2004, 02:31:39 pm
Clinton is decent.  As for the economy, it is true that it turned for the better during his Administration, but I don't think he directly influenced that.  Also, he was immoral for lying under oath.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on November 03, 2004, 02:39:00 pm
yep. go C


anyways, i guess he was  better than bush
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Hannahbal on November 03, 2004, 02:48:36 pm
He was a good president.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: RandomDude18 on November 03, 2004, 02:49:51 pm
LOL, you guys know he cheated on his wife?
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Starr2k3 on November 03, 2004, 02:50:14 pm
He was an oustanding president. George Bush can't even touch him.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on November 03, 2004, 03:22:56 pm
Oh my god no. Just no. This man was without a doubt one of the worst, and I do mean worst presidents America has ever seen. I could write a hundred page essay on this guys screw ups and it wouldn't be enough. Ok, well maybe that's an exaggeration but close...

The fact that he dodged a draft at one point in his life should have disqualified that man from running for president. He also lied under oath. He also raised taxes so high middle class families could barely pay. He allowed partial birth abortion. Now really, I am anti abortion but if someone just must have one they should really have the decency to do it early on. Partial birth abortion is just barbaric.

No, we were not zero dollars in debt when Bill the Draft Dodger Clinton left office.
 
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: spongemonkey13 on November 03, 2004, 03:23:48 pm
he was a pretty good president. our economy was good when he was around
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Hannahbal on November 03, 2004, 03:24:28 pm
Not to mention he didn't get us into any wars.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on November 03, 2004, 03:33:59 pm
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Not to mention he didn't get us into any wars.
That's not 100% true. He bombed Bosnia, bombed a candy factory in Sudan and maybe a few others things as well. I can't remember for sure about Sudan but I do know there was war going on in Bosnia when he clear out of the blue decided to bomb them.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Hannahbal on November 03, 2004, 03:36:42 pm
All I said was he didn't get us into any wars, which he didn't, so it was true.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Gideon Brown on November 03, 2004, 03:47:13 pm
Ehhhhh....I'm not one hundred percent certain who was in presidency at the time, although my Canuck sources say Clinton, but the USA and the UN were waging war on Kosovo...I remember that war....*ponders* I think this was a year before Bush got in...not certain though.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: cmonkey on November 03, 2004, 03:48:22 pm
The intervention in Bosnia was a joint effort of the UN and NATO, not Clinton.  

By the way, it was a pharmacuetical plant in Khartoum that was bombed because it was believed to be producing VX nerve gas.  The government of Sudan denied that.  The bombing was in response to Bin Laden's organization bombing two US embassies in Africa.

BTW, we weren't waging war on Kosovo.  We were attempting to end the war there.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on November 03, 2004, 03:49:34 pm
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The intervention in Bosnia was a joint effort of the UN and NATO, not Clinton.  

By the way, it was a pharmacuetical plant in Khartoum that was bombed because it was believed to be producing VX nerve gas.  The government of Sudan denied that.  The bombing was in response to Bin Laden's organization bombing two US embassies in Africa.
Eh, don't think so but I'll look it up.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: GrEeNdAyFrEaK on November 03, 2004, 04:02:26 pm
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Not to mention he didn't get us into any wars.
He didn't have a major attack on the country to work with, either.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: MiraclrPlz on November 03, 2004, 05:16:22 pm
Bill Clinton=Terrible president.  He sold us out to the REd Chineese, he degenerated the whitehouse, etc.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Fifth Dynasty on November 03, 2004, 06:22:53 pm
You say Clinton sucked, eh? Read this:

During the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, the U.S. enjoyed more peace and economic well being than at any time in its history. He was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win a second term. He could point to the lowest unemployment rate in modern times, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the highest home ownership in the country's history, dropping crime rates in many places, and reduced welfare roles. He proposed the first balanced budget in decades and achieved a budget surplus. As part of a plan to celebrate the millennium in 2000, Clinton called for a great national initiative to end racial discrimination.

After the failure in his second year of a huge program of health care reform, Clinton shifted emphasis, declaring "the era of big government is over." He sought legislation to upgrade education, to protect jobs of parents who must care for sick children, to restrict handgun sales, and to strengthen environmental rules.

n the world, he successfully dispatched peace keeping forces to war-torn Bosnia and bombed Iraq when Saddam Hussein stopped United Nations inspections for evidence of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. He became a global proponent for an expanded NATO, more open international trade, and a worldwide campaign against drug trafficking. He drew huge crowds when he traveled through South America, Europe, Russia, Africa, and China, advocating U.S. style freedom.

---Brought to you by whitehouse.gov, the official White House Website---

Haha, Clinton REALLY sucked, huh? No. Not at all.

In my opinion here are the greatest presidents:

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt *Democrat*
2. John F. Kennedy *Democrat*
3. William J. Clinton *Democrat*
4. Jimmy Carter *Democrat*
5. Abraham Lincoln (Without him, slaves wouldn't be set free) *None*
6. George Washington (He refused to be King of the World. I admire that, how can you not admire that. You wouldn't refuse. I don't like him because he was the first president, I admire him because he created the presidency and he wanted to lead his own country, not the world. That takes guts, a lot of them, to refuse ultimate reign) *None, Obviously*

Pretty weird, I got all Democrats, when I'm not democrat. I'm for whoever is better and whoever made the best choices.

Back to Bill, how can you possibly say that this man sucked after reading that?
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: cmonkey on November 03, 2004, 06:24:48 pm
Lincoln was a Republican... the first one, in fact.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: foulpattie on November 03, 2004, 06:28:20 pm
Clinton did good things for the economy.  That's pretty much all I know about the man, he was out before I started paying attention. It's a shame everyone will remember him as a skirt chaser.  
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on November 03, 2004, 06:31:46 pm
Wrong. You're VERY wrong he's the #1 Pres. who lied too much.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Fifth Dynasty on November 03, 2004, 06:39:31 pm
:shutup:, Clinton was awesome and you know it.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: super_sayian_spongebob on November 03, 2004, 06:41:25 pm
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:shutup:, Clinton was awesome and you know it.
Impeachment = Bad president.  
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Fifth Dynasty on November 03, 2004, 06:48:58 pm
Basically the best Administation = Good President, AKA Clinton.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Gideon Brown on November 03, 2004, 08:02:23 pm
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You say Clinton sucked, eh? Read this:

During the administration of William Jefferson Clinton, the U.S. enjoyed more peace and economic well being than at any time in its history. He was the first Democratic president since Franklin D. Roosevelt to win a second term. He could point to the lowest unemployment rate in modern times, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the highest home ownership in the country's history, dropping crime rates in many places, and reduced welfare roles. He proposed the first balanced budget in decades and achieved a budget surplus. As part of a plan to celebrate the millennium in 2000, Clinton called for a great national initiative to end racial discrimination.

After the failure in his second year of a huge program of health care reform, Clinton shifted emphasis, declaring "the era of big government is over." He sought legislation to upgrade education, to protect jobs of parents who must care for sick children, to restrict handgun sales, and to strengthen environmental rules.

n the world, he successfully dispatched peace keeping forces to war-torn Bosnia and bombed Iraq when Saddam Hussein stopped United Nations inspections for evidence of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. He became a global proponent for an expanded NATO, more open international trade, and a worldwide campaign against drug trafficking. He drew huge crowds when he traveled through South America, Europe, Russia, Africa, and China, advocating U.S. style freedom.

---Brought to you by whitehouse.gov, the official White House Website---

Haha, Clinton REALLY sucked, huh? No. Not at all.

In my opinion here are the greatest presidents:

1. Franklin D. Roosevelt *Democrat*
2. John F. Kennedy *Democrat*
3. William J. Clinton *Democrat*
4. Jimmy Carter *Democrat*
5. Abraham Lincoln (Without him, slaves wouldn't be set free) *None*
6. George Washington (He refused to be King of the World. I admire that, how can you not admire that. You wouldn't refuse. I don't like him because he was the first president, I admire him because he created the presidency and he wanted to lead his own country, not the world. That takes guts, a lot of them, to refuse ultimate reign) *None, Obviously*

Pretty weird, I got all Democrats, when I'm not democrat. I'm for whoever is better and whoever made the best choices.

Back to Bill, how can you possibly say that this man sucked after reading that?
He sounds so...Canadian! I lurv him now.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Daniel on November 03, 2004, 08:24:55 pm
I have some things to say.
1. He wrecked the Oval Office when Bush:biggrin: was elected.
2. He broke his presidential oath.
3. He cheated on his wife
4. He bobmed a candy factory. (How lame!)
5. He bobmed Bosnia.
6. He got Impeached.

Great president, huh? :happy:
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: cmonkey on November 04, 2004, 03:48:44 am
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I have some things to say.
1. He wrecked the Oval Office when Bush:biggrin: was elected.
2. He broke his presidential oath.
3. He cheated on his wife
4. He bobmed a candy factory. (How lame!)
5. He bobmed Bosnia.
6. He got Impeached.

Great president, huh? :happy:
Thank you for being ignorant.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: RandomDude18 on November 04, 2004, 05:21:42 am
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I have some things to say.
1. He wrecked the Oval Office when Bush:biggrin: was elected.
2. He broke his presidential oath.
3. He cheated on his wife
4. He bobmed a candy factory. (How lame!)
5. He bobmed Bosnia.
6. He got Impeached.

Great president, huh? :happy:
I agree with you on this.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: MiraclrPlz on November 04, 2004, 05:54:33 am
Are we forgetting he was an impeached president?  Are we forgetting all the bad he did?
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Gideon Brown on November 04, 2004, 07:15:12 am
I'd just like to mention, especially to MSP, that ALL PRESIDENTS have done good. And ALL PRESIDENTS have done bad. Would you like me to dig up all the BAAAAAAD things Bush has done?
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Hannahbal on November 04, 2004, 03:56:32 pm
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I'd just like to mention, especially to MSP, that ALL PRESIDENTS have done good. And ALL PRESIDENTS have done bad. Would you like me to dig up all the BAAAAAAD things Bush has done?
I think he'll just say that Bush did no wrong and claim that everything you said was bad is actually good.
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: Gideon Brown on November 04, 2004, 06:42:32 pm
MSP likes to warp the truth *growls*
Title: Bill Clinton
Post by: MiraclrPlz on November 04, 2004, 07:52:48 pm
Go on dig it up and I will contradict everything you say.  I don't need to hear anymore and argue why the right person won.  But there is NOTHING he could of done according to you that I can't contradict.