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Debate Den / Re: The New World Order is Here?!
« on: February 02, 2008, 10:53:58 am »
So it's just the American Government making us wear or implant the chip? What if we moved out of the country? Would they require it as well?
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Debate Den / So I was fighting with a hxc Christian kid. "gays going to hell"
« on: January 27, 2008, 06:46:26 pm »
After the death of christ 2,500 years, a bible was written in another language. Converted, and apparently after being altered and rewritten thousands of times by different people, is it not possible that certain things in the bible were left out, forgotten, or changed?
I honestly think if you are ignorant enough to say "all gays are going to hell" That all I can do is laugh. Christians and Catholics never believe their religion is wrong in any aspect, way, shape, or form. They believe a book that was written thousands of times over by different random people.
Honestly, back before a bible was written, before Jesus, what religon was there for Christianity/Catholics/Protostants/ect.?
There may have been the belief of God, but there is no proof anywhere that says certain things will send you to hell, besides the things written in a bible by thousands of people thousands of years ago, and converted from a different language. Whose to say that a converter didn't mess up while reading someting?
Gay people are NOT going to hell. They are going to hell for loving someone? Wow. HUGE sin isn't it? Gay people have thoughts, opionions, and ideas just like everyone else, except feel differently about certain emotions. Is it wrong that your emotions feel a different way?
Is it wrong for a young man or woman to go home and cry every day, wanting to kill themselves because their religon says they are going to hell, because of their feelings? Because of something they can't control, and are forced to live their life a lie or unhappy?
God doesn't want people unhappy or miserable, so why would he hate Gays? Ignorant Christians and Catholics don't make sense. They can't admit they are wrong, or that the possiblity of an old book that was written thousands of years after the death of Jesus has any implication of being wrong whatsoever.
So what if a group of people grew up on an island and a few were gay, and had never heard of God or forgivness, didn't speak any known languages today, and didn't know what sin was? Would they go to hell? Or would it be an excepting because they didnt know?
Thousands of years ago MALE SOLDIERS in ANCIENT GREECE, BEFORE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN, THE SPARTANS, SLEPT WITH EACH OTHER. That is right, MALES HAVING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AND LOVE FOR ANOTHER MALE SOLDIER/PARTNER.
Were they wrong before this "rule" was made?
The old testament said that having peircings, or marks made by another on the body (such as tattoos as well) was a sin as well. Now in the new testament, it doesn't even mention it. So did God come down from heaven last Saturday saying that its ok for us to mark our bodies and peirce our ears? Did he say it's ok now? Well if he did I didn't get the reminder. It was simply "left out" of the new testament. So really, anyone who has their ears peirced is going to hell. Oh, and if you have a tattoo you are going to hell too.
He never said it was ok to have them. But now the Christians who wrote the new bible left that out.
So if they left a sin like that out of the bible, whose to say they didn't leave anything else out, or alter anything else?
Did Jesus walk around in his time yelling out " Being homosexual is a sin, you are all going to hell!"
No. He didn't. The bible has been altered with so many times, that there is no 100% correct and honest truth in it. Nothing is 100% factual. It is belief.
You can believe what you want. Does loving another human being consist of going to hell, or peircing, or tattooing your body?
God had said " I do not want places of worship built". He didn't want religous places built, because it would cause hatred and twisting of what the belief of God was really about. It was about having a personal relationship with God.
I'm pretty sure that every Good Friday that you happen to eat meat on, that God isn't writing you down on his "bad list" and sending you to hell for that. God loves you for you, not for what random dead people wrote and altered inside of a book define you as.
I believe you have a personal relationship with God. Nothing else. You want to be gay? That's fine. Abide by your countries rules, don't bring religon into the rules.
There were an orginal 10 commandements, but if you notice that throughout the bible it mentions "oh, yea , you can't have peircings. You will go to hell."
" Oh yea, you can't have tattoos, you will go to hell for that too"
" oh and now in this passage, since I feel like adding it in, " If you are gay you are going to hell"
NO. STOP. THINK
If THOSE THINGS WERE SO BAD TO GO TO HELL FOR, THEN WHY AREN'T THEY PART OF THE ORGINAL 10 COMMANDMENTS? If God knows everything and anything, and is smart like you Christians, Catholics, and whatever the hell else claim, then why didn't he add that into the top 10 commandements?
You know why? Because God doesn't see those as wrong. People who wrote the bible added stupid extra bullshit in there for shits and giggles.
Gay people ARE NOT going to hell. Anything that isn't in the top 10 commandments, and that doesnt relate to it in any way, wouldn't send you to hell. If it did, and if it was that important as people have claimed, then it would be in the top 10 commandments.
Thank you for reading, that is all
I honestly think if you are ignorant enough to say "all gays are going to hell" That all I can do is laugh. Christians and Catholics never believe their religion is wrong in any aspect, way, shape, or form. They believe a book that was written thousands of times over by different random people.
Honestly, back before a bible was written, before Jesus, what religon was there for Christianity/Catholics/Protostants/ect.?
There may have been the belief of God, but there is no proof anywhere that says certain things will send you to hell, besides the things written in a bible by thousands of people thousands of years ago, and converted from a different language. Whose to say that a converter didn't mess up while reading someting?
Gay people are NOT going to hell. They are going to hell for loving someone? Wow. HUGE sin isn't it? Gay people have thoughts, opionions, and ideas just like everyone else, except feel differently about certain emotions. Is it wrong that your emotions feel a different way?
Is it wrong for a young man or woman to go home and cry every day, wanting to kill themselves because their religon says they are going to hell, because of their feelings? Because of something they can't control, and are forced to live their life a lie or unhappy?
God doesn't want people unhappy or miserable, so why would he hate Gays? Ignorant Christians and Catholics don't make sense. They can't admit they are wrong, or that the possiblity of an old book that was written thousands of years after the death of Jesus has any implication of being wrong whatsoever.
So what if a group of people grew up on an island and a few were gay, and had never heard of God or forgivness, didn't speak any known languages today, and didn't know what sin was? Would they go to hell? Or would it be an excepting because they didnt know?
Thousands of years ago MALE SOLDIERS in ANCIENT GREECE, BEFORE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN, THE SPARTANS, SLEPT WITH EACH OTHER. That is right, MALES HAVING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AND LOVE FOR ANOTHER MALE SOLDIER/PARTNER.
Were they wrong before this "rule" was made?
The old testament said that having peircings, or marks made by another on the body (such as tattoos as well) was a sin as well. Now in the new testament, it doesn't even mention it. So did God come down from heaven last Saturday saying that its ok for us to mark our bodies and peirce our ears? Did he say it's ok now? Well if he did I didn't get the reminder. It was simply "left out" of the new testament. So really, anyone who has their ears peirced is going to hell. Oh, and if you have a tattoo you are going to hell too.
He never said it was ok to have them. But now the Christians who wrote the new bible left that out.
So if they left a sin like that out of the bible, whose to say they didn't leave anything else out, or alter anything else?
Did Jesus walk around in his time yelling out " Being homosexual is a sin, you are all going to hell!"
No. He didn't. The bible has been altered with so many times, that there is no 100% correct and honest truth in it. Nothing is 100% factual. It is belief.
You can believe what you want. Does loving another human being consist of going to hell, or peircing, or tattooing your body?
God had said " I do not want places of worship built". He didn't want religous places built, because it would cause hatred and twisting of what the belief of God was really about. It was about having a personal relationship with God.
I'm pretty sure that every Good Friday that you happen to eat meat on, that God isn't writing you down on his "bad list" and sending you to hell for that. God loves you for you, not for what random dead people wrote and altered inside of a book define you as.
I believe you have a personal relationship with God. Nothing else. You want to be gay? That's fine. Abide by your countries rules, don't bring religon into the rules.
There were an orginal 10 commandements, but if you notice that throughout the bible it mentions "oh, yea , you can't have peircings. You will go to hell."
" Oh yea, you can't have tattoos, you will go to hell for that too"
" oh and now in this passage, since I feel like adding it in, " If you are gay you are going to hell"
NO. STOP. THINK
If THOSE THINGS WERE SO BAD TO GO TO HELL FOR, THEN WHY AREN'T THEY PART OF THE ORGINAL 10 COMMANDMENTS? If God knows everything and anything, and is smart like you Christians, Catholics, and whatever the hell else claim, then why didn't he add that into the top 10 commandements?
You know why? Because God doesn't see those as wrong. People who wrote the bible added stupid extra bullshit in there for shits and giggles.
Gay people ARE NOT going to hell. Anything that isn't in the top 10 commandments, and that doesnt relate to it in any way, wouldn't send you to hell. If it did, and if it was that important as people have claimed, then it would be in the top 10 commandments.
Thank you for reading, that is all
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Everything Else / Valentine's Day
« on: January 23, 2008, 10:32:52 am »
So Valentine's Day is coming up, as it does every year.
Girls, what would you want a guy to get you?
And Guys, what would you want a girl to get you?
And most importantly, what would be an appropriate gift to get a girlfriend or boyfriend for Valentine's Day?
Girls, what would you want a guy to get you?
And Guys, what would you want a girl to get you?
And most importantly, what would be an appropriate gift to get a girlfriend or boyfriend for Valentine's Day?
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The Waste Land / Engraving
« on: January 10, 2008, 08:51:00 pm »
I attempted looking up some information about how much it would cost to get a peice of jewelry engraved. I didn't have any luck, and I was curious; Do any of you have an idea about the average price to get a peice of jewelry engraved, specifically a ring? If so, please respond to this topic, or send me a website or something.
Thank you , and goodnight!
Thank you , and goodnight!
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Debate Den / Re: Racism
« on: January 10, 2008, 08:44:32 pm »
Racism is the stupidest and lowest state a person can stoop to in my opinion. Skin color doesn't make the person. The person makes the person. My boyfriend is black, and we have been together for four and a half months. People give different raced people steriotypes. I think as long as you don't screw people over, do illegal things, or hurt people that it shouldn't matter what color you are. I would like to see a black president personally. I think it would do some good.
But mainly, racism is just for ignorant people who have nothing better to do with their sorry lives, and hate on others because of a skin color.
But mainly, racism is just for ignorant people who have nothing better to do with their sorry lives, and hate on others because of a skin color.
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Debate Den / Re: So, Who are you voting for in 08...
« on: January 06, 2008, 10:52:15 am »
Well, I can't vote yet.
Hilary definetly shouldn't be considered. She hasn't done dolphin noise for Ny, she went around campaigning and trying to make herself look good. I agree that her and Bill's sex life have nothing to do with the fact that she should be elected or not. She is just fake. That's the end of it. I mean sure women may get more rights with a women president, such as equal pay and such, but having her just isn't worth it. She only cares about herself.
As for Obama. He does seem a little shady, but I think he would do better then Hilary. It's quite amusing. When the presidential voting comes mainly down to a white women and a black man. I never thought I'd see the day. I am glad though. I would have to say Obama would be the better choice. He doesn't seem as fake as Hilary, and ultimately I think it would be good for the country to have a black president.
Women get all spaztastic and emotional, and I just don't like women that much. She seems too power hungry to me. But it's whatever. That's my views on it.
Hilary definetly shouldn't be considered. She hasn't done dolphin noise for Ny, she went around campaigning and trying to make herself look good. I agree that her and Bill's sex life have nothing to do with the fact that she should be elected or not. She is just fake. That's the end of it. I mean sure women may get more rights with a women president, such as equal pay and such, but having her just isn't worth it. She only cares about herself.
As for Obama. He does seem a little shady, but I think he would do better then Hilary. It's quite amusing. When the presidential voting comes mainly down to a white women and a black man. I never thought I'd see the day. I am glad though. I would have to say Obama would be the better choice. He doesn't seem as fake as Hilary, and ultimately I think it would be good for the country to have a black president.
Women get all spaztastic and emotional, and I just don't like women that much. She seems too power hungry to me. But it's whatever. That's my views on it.
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Everything Else / Re: BANNED FOR I DUNNO HOW LONG ON MISUNDERSTANDING! I DEMAND RETRIBUTIONS!!!!!!
« on: January 06, 2008, 10:27:49 am »
Haha. Wow. So how old is MSP? Geeze. -sighs- This is what happens when I don't come here for a while. Hm. Gotta love crazy homophobic obsessed religious overweight crazy weirdos. 
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Everything Else / Re: You Have to be Skinny to be beautiful/happy
« on: January 06, 2008, 10:10:35 am »
Society gives the impression you have to be skinny to be happy. Hence all the weight loss commercials and such. Personally, you may feel better about yourself, but there are many overweight and happy people. It really depends on the person, rather then what society says.
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Debate Den / Re: Offering birth control kids in schools to girls as young as 11
« on: November 17, 2007, 07:26:36 pm »
I love how everyone is out to contradict me at this forum.
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Debate Den / Re: Offering birth control kids in schools to girls as young as 11
« on: November 17, 2007, 05:49:43 pm »Here's the main problem (if I remember this right):
There was a push in the 70's/80's/90's for better sex education. Slowly but surely it got bumped back to 5th grade.
I say give them availability of the stuff IF we're not gonna change when they get their sex ed.
If they bumped sex-ed back to 7th-8th grade, the kids would be a bit better off. I dono tho. It would have to be tested prolly.
Yea, I agree there. Our teacher was telling us what an orgasm was and such. Of course kids are gonna get curious. 5th and 6th graders think they are so "cool" and know everything at that age.
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Everything Else / Re: Report Cards
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:12:51 pm »Well, it doesn't really effect me because I'm taking a foreign language and some honors classes and I will graduate with like 30 credits cuz of flvs.net
0.o Damng.
Workin hard!
I want to shoot for straight A's. Doubt that will ever happen though
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Everything Else / Re: Post Your Picture *reborn*
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:10:48 pm »
And my bruise 0.o
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Everything Else / Re: Report Cards
« on: November 17, 2007, 04:08:41 pm »
It's for the class of '11 only. We are the first class that has this, and Dr. Depatri can suck my juicebox straw.
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Debate Den / Re: Ann Coulter calls John Edwards a "faggot"
« on: November 17, 2007, 03:54:03 pm »
Faggot also means cigar.
Liz, your opinions , in my opinion, are stupid.
If women didn't have rights that men did, then we (you too) would be wearing head scarves and covered from head to toe, and being beaten with sticks, bats, glass, metal rods, and anything that fancies the males interest, just like over in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It has been proven that women leaders have less wars, and try to do things and settle things peacefully, rather then bomb every damn country because they get pissed off.
Women deserve equal rights as men. I don't like most females either, but what you're saying is completely ridiculas.
Liz, your opinions , in my opinion, are stupid.
If women didn't have rights that men did, then we (you too) would be wearing head scarves and covered from head to toe, and being beaten with sticks, bats, glass, metal rods, and anything that fancies the males interest, just like over in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It has been proven that women leaders have less wars, and try to do things and settle things peacefully, rather then bomb every damn country because they get pissed off.
Women deserve equal rights as men. I don't like most females either, but what you're saying is completely ridiculas.