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Is Porn Evil?

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carterhawk

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Re: Is Porn Evil?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2006, 10:11:09 pm »
I just did explain a while back.  It gives unrealistic portraits of women on how they should look and act.  No one truly has the perfect body and no one should be expected to have it.

Trivial point: Average women tend to get extremely upset if they discover that their husband feels a need to look at porn. :P

*edit* If three people have said porn is wrong, why does the poll say different?  You guys are supposed to vote, not just say "yup."

Rose, how much porn have you seen? ive seen some very...homely...women in porn. Women who realy shouldnt be in porn. Your thinking of the big budget stuff, the skinemax stuff, but the bulk of the porn is cheap and doesnt have an airbrush team perfectifying the women. Also, where does need come from? Cant a person just enjoy porn? Are women forbidden from liking porn since its so degrading?

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Re: Is Porn Evil?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2006, 12:19:44 pm »
No it isn't evil. It's fantasy, not reality.

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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2006, 12:34:50 pm »
I just did explain a while back.  It gives unrealistic portraits of women on how they should look and act.  No one truly has the perfect body and no one should be expected to have it.

Trivial point: Average women tend to get extremely upset if they discover that their husband feels a need to look at porn. :P

*edit* If three people have said porn is wrong, why does the poll say different?  You guys are supposed to vote, not just say "yup."

Rose, how much porn have you seen? ive seen some very...homely...women in porn. Women who realy shouldnt be in porn. Your thinking of the big budget stuff, the skinemax stuff, but the bulk of the porn is cheap and doesnt have an airbrush team perfectifying the women. Also, where does need come from? Cant a person just enjoy porn? Are women forbidden from liking porn since its so degrading?
My dignity doesn't leave room for intentionally watching porn.  Unfortunately, in Peruvian airports they play it publicly.*

Seriously, the only reason a guy looks at porn is because they want to see naked people.  Most spouses are not pleased when they discover their partner is looking at someone other than themselves.  So no, a person can't "just enjoy" porn in my book.

Nonetheless, what people do in their own homes is their business.  Sure, I hate it with a passion, but as long as I don't hear about it I don't care.  To put it simply, my vote is still a "yes", but if someone wants to watch it in the privacy of their own home and not give me any details I don't care.

*It's a well known fact that I spent two days in a Peruvian airport during a riot.  During that time I tried to avoid the TV at all costs.

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Re: Is Porn Evil?
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2006, 01:11:22 pm »
Porn is bad depending on the type of porn. In my view softcore porn isn't degrading, but hardcore is very degrading.

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2006, 01:14:46 pm »
no its not. people do it bnecause they enjoy it, and so do others who watch it...
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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2006, 01:33:33 pm »
I personally don't watch porn, but I see no problem with it as long as you are old enough and have your own internet connection.

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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2006, 01:36:34 pm »
Dear god rose, never go to a european beach, the nudity will surely blind you :p
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What about homosexual porn. Is lesbian porn extremely degrading while gay guy porn is not degrading to anyone at all?

Your coming off as sexist, against women and men. First, your implying men can't be degraded by porn. Second, your portrayin women as poor helpless little weaklings who can't think and act for them selves. A woman can be a slut and LOVE making porn because LOVES sex.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2006, 02:53:38 pm »
If women and men are so degraded by porn they wouldn't do it in the first place.

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2006, 03:29:15 pm »
Everything in life is somewhat evil. And what Lizzie says, it makes wives feel bad when their husbands have to resort to porn.

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2006, 03:32:18 pm »
Everything in life is somewhat evil. And what Lizzie says, it makes wives feel bad when their husbands have to resort to porn.

Prove it. Give me a verifible study from a reputable source to back up what you claim.

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2006, 03:36:28 pm »
Porn's evil.

Chrono

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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2006, 04:36:41 pm »
Everything in life is somewhat evil. And what Lizzie says, it makes wives feel bad when their husbands have to resort to porn.

Prove it. Give me a verifible study from a reputable source to back up what you claim.
-_-' Just because you want everybody to debate about this topic until they die, doesn't mean it's going to happen. I don't have a source that says everything is evil, it's just my opinion. And when some men look at porn instead of their wives, it makes their wives sad or degraded(maybe?)

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Re: Is Porn Evil?
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2006, 06:21:03 pm »
Everything in life is somewhat evil. And what Lizzie says, it makes wives feel bad when their husbands have to resort to porn.

Prove it. Give me a verifible study from a reputable source to back up what you claim.
-_-' Just because you want everybody to debate about this topic until they die, doesn't mean it's going to happen. I don't have a source that says everything is evil, it's just my opinion. And when some men look at porn instead of their wives, it makes their wives sad or degraded(maybe?)
I agree. A majority of stuff in life is evil to humans. I can't thing of one thing that doesn't have some sort of evilness about it :P

I think that looking at porn while being married is a huge no-no. Huge. Like....go get some later :P

However, I think that porn can be casually viewed. It may sound odd, but at my college, girls would come over to my friend's room, have drinking parties, and finish off the night with a few hours of porn.

And this will certainly make more people hate me around here, but I see no problem with children being censored from pornography legally. If someone under the age of 18 is going to view porn, they can. Very easily. And the gov't seemingly could care less at the moment, as they're more concerned about video game violence...loooool...silly politicians.

Many things could be banned or regulated more efficiently in this country, but the fact still stands that there's too many things to regulate :P Like the air and water :P Which are also evil  :lol: :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2006, 12:50:34 am »
I knew this before I even started reading these posts, but yeah. . . this topic is bound to flare tempers.  A shame that people are saying this thread is done just as I join in.

Um. . . hi, by the way.  I'm the woman that created the Shego pic that was posted on the first page of this little thread here.  And yes, I also create works that are erotic and rather explicit, some of which that could easily be perceived as pornographic.  Now granted, some people believe there's a difference between artwork and a photograph of something that's real, but what's important here is the concept, the message that it brings across.

I feel it's rather unfortunate that, at least in this country (the US), sexuality is still perceived as dirty, tasteless, sinful, and basically. . . well, evil.  But you know what?  It's a part of who we are.  Not just as indivuals, but as a society.  Without sexuality there would be no families, no life, no future.  Yet we sweep it under the rug as if it's something to be ashamed of.

Pornography cannot be evil for the simple fact that it cannot act upon its own will. . . "Why did you hurt that girl?" . . . "The porn made me do it!"  . . . Um, I don't think so.  Makes just as much sense as saying "The knife made me stab him!" or "The gun made me shoot him!"

I often see the argument that porn hurts women.  Let's look at a few differents angles, shall we?

Some people might say that it provides an unrealistic look at what the body of a woman should be, giving females (especially young girls) low self-esteem, possibly inducing eating disorders and the like.  But the fact of the matter is that mainstream magazines and other forms of media are far more guilty of this and are much more empowered with body image than porn will ever be.  Why?  Because they aren't selling fantasies of idealized sex, they are selling products that do little more than feed off the insecurities of these girls. 

Others might say that porn causes problems in relationships, or more specifically, that a wife will automatcially get hurt when she finds out her husband looks at porn.  Well yeah, if she's that insecure about herself and her relationship with him then she's bound to get jealous.  So. . . how many people here get jealous of a magazine?  I certainly wouldn't mind a show of hands on this one.  And yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds.  But think about it. . . we all have fantasies that don't compare to real life, and I'm not even talking about sexual fanatasies.  As long as the porn is not taking away from the relationship, I see nothing evil about it.  No one is being cheated on.  Heck, I don't mind whether or not my fiance looks at any because I don't question our monogomous relationship or his love and attraction to me. 

Some say that porn stars are victims, but you know what?  They're legally adults that knew what they were getting into (I doubt they walked into the audition or whatever thinking that they were gonna be flipping burgers).  Either they enjoy what they do, they like the pay, or both (and I'd say it's probably the latter).  If they're gonna whine about being victims, they need to find another line of work.

And I can say all this from a woman's point of view because once again, I happen to be one.  I know I don't have the perfect body.  I don't let any outside images crawl into my mind and dictate who I should I shouldn't be, let alone how I feel about myself; that's for me and my heart to decide.

So in other words, I don't feel that porn is demeaning or degrading, let alone evil, just that saying so is a sad, misguided generalization of something that just might provide a much-needed outlet to some people.
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Re: Is Porn Evil?
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2006, 06:30:43 am »
enigmawing, thank you for such a great post compared to the last 3 pages of utter nonsense. This is a thread to debate porn's evilness, not carterhawk or anyone elses stupiditiy with facts. That is for the "are facts needed?" debate thread now. :P