Topic: Do we have free will?

[VulturEMaN]

Kinda like the whole "refrigerator light when door shut" thingie....

[AppleNick]

I like philosophy, but I don't argue over it. I just make up weird things. I've thought up at least 100 different things to explain will and the freedom of it, but I don't believe in any of them. I plainly do believe in free will.

[Lil Loco]

Kinda like the whole "refrigerator light when door shut" thingie....

I solved that one.  You can see the light in my refridgerator turning off as the door is closing all the way.

[Patback399]

I think there is a little switch that turns the light off when the door presses against it.

[VulturEMaN]

Naw thats now how it works...the little gnomes come and have a battle with the cheese!

And the cheese wins, so they find the hidden light switch to bring darkness to their world, and they hit it.

Cause who wouldn't wanna hit it. I'd hit it.

[Thomas]

Free will is what THEY want you to think you have.
It does not really exist, moderation and servalience (sp?) keeps us in a controlled society...and if we are being watched and controlled constantly....then free will does not TRUELY exist.

Semi-free will does though...where we have limited freedom.

[Lil Loco]

That's not the type of "free" that he's refering to though.

[Thomas]

That's not the type of "free" that he's refering to though.

I don't have the freedom to sunbathe naked in my back garden, my neighbours could report it to the police and get me in trouble.

I think that contributes to 'free will' does it not? If it does, then read the above post AGAIN.

[Band8PGeek]

Naw thats now how it works...the little gnomes come and have a battle with the cheese!

WTF?

We wouldn't know the difference. Everything would just shut down. We would stop functioning, thinking, and living, but we would not know the difference.

And then what if the DS was turned back on?

[David]

We wouldn't know the difference. Everything would just shut down. We would stop functioning, thinking, and living, but we would not know the difference.

And then what if the DS was turned back on?

They choose the save slot from where they left off and away we go again.

[Lil Loco]

That's not the type of "free" that he's refering to though.

I don't have the freedom to sunbathe naked in my back garden, my neighbours could report it to the police and get me in trouble.

I think that contributes to 'free will' does it not? If it does, then read the above post AGAIN.

I thought that's what he was talkin about at the beginning too...But his argument on free-will isn't on the level of freedom in life, but on the level of freedom in terms of your mind.

What if your freedom is an optical illusion? That you don't control your mind, but your mind controls you?

[Elizabeth Rose]

Naw thats now how it works...the little gnomes come and have a battle with the cheese!

WTF?

We wouldn't know the difference. Everything would just shut down. We would stop functioning, thinking, and living, but we would not know the difference.

And then what if the DS was turned back on?

We would pick up right where we started; not noticing a thing.

[Dragon Of Grief]

Free will is what THEY want you to think you have.
It does not really exist, moderation and servalience (sp?) keeps us in a controlled society...and if we are being watched and controlled constantly....then free will does not TRUELY exist.

Semi-free will does though...where we have limited freedom.

I am in total agreement, but what it means is he has the ability to do anything he wants, but with that comes consequences. If you steal, you go to jail. You have the ability to steal, you have the free will, but the consequence is going to jail.

Ugh, my brain hurts =(

[Band8PGeek]

We wouldn't know the difference. Everything would just shut down. We would stop functioning, thinking, and living, but we would not know the difference.

And then what if the DS was turned back on?

We would pick up right where we started; not noticing a thing.

But what if they'd turned off without saving? Then the world would start over. And then what if we rebelled against the stylus and button controls? Or if the game was changed to Animal Crossing? Every day we'd just be making the game player madder and madder.

[Thomas]

Free will is what THEY want you to think you have.
It does not really exist, moderation and servalience (sp?) keeps us in a controlled society...and if we are being watched and controlled constantly....then free will does not TRUELY exist.

Semi-free will does though...where we have limited freedom.

I am in total agreement, but what it means is he has the ability to do anything he wants, but with that comes consequences. If you steal, you go to jail. You have the ability to steal, you have the free will, but the consequence is going to jail.

Ugh, my brain hurts =(

You saved me the effort in making my post longer. I thank you, DOG.