Topic: Operation Bite

[Patback399]

I'm a pacifist. There's always a better option than war.

Just like in World War II when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour? Better option than going to war would be...?

Diplomacy.

Uh hu..

"Oh hey! You bombed us, but instead of fighting back, we are just going to talk it out!"

That is great in theory, but rarely works..

"Oh hey! You bombed us, and we're going to send off millions of men to die and hopefully, it will all end with the major destruction of two major cities and innumerable sons, fathers and husbands left dead."

And you're telling me that works?

[Daniel]

I'm a pacifist. There's always a better option than war.

Just like in World War II when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour? Better option than going to war would be...?

Diplomacy.

Uh hu..

"Oh hey! You bombed us, but instead of fighting back, we are just going to talk it out!"

That is great in theory, but rarely works..

"Oh hey! You bombed us, and we're going to send off millions of men to die and hopefully, it will all end with the major destruction of two major cities and innumerable sons, fathers and husbands left dead."

And you're telling me that works?

Well, it obviously did...

[Lil Loco]

We won the war, did we not?

While the nuclear bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was way over the top, you know that diplomacy wouldn't have meant jack to the Emperor.  And I love how you throw out the word "millions" so easily, seeing as how our casualties estimated around 300,000...but hey close enough right?  That's not to say that 300,000 lives is nothing, that's alotta people...But the fact is that if America hadn't stepped into the war, the chances of Allied victory would have been slim-to-none...Alotta Europeans would be speaking German right now and alotta Asians would be speaking Japanese.  Pacifism is nice in thought, but there's always gonna be people would pose a threat to the world and there's always gonna have to be people who combat them.

[VulturEMaN]

nobody wins wars

[Dragon Of Grief]

War is never necessary... there are always alternatives to war, I don't care what you say. We have brains for a reason. So that we can reason and think, instead of being animal like and physically attacking something anytime they piss us off.

War doesn't determine who wins, it determines the body count.

Anyways, Bush hasn't even tried being diplomatic... he just went right to war.

[Daniel]

Just like Lincoln. ^.^

[Dragon Of Grief]

Just like Lincoln. ^.^

Nah, both sides failed to compromise... Lincoln and Lee are both just as at fault.

[IZ]

Just like Lincoln. ^.^

I do love how if a President does something wrong, it's ok as long as someone's done it before.

[cmonkey]

I'm a pacifist. There's always a better option than war.

Just like in World War II when Japan bombed Pearl Harbour? Better option than going to war would be...?

Pearl Harbor was a response to years of the US "annexing" Pacific islands closer and closer to Japan.  Had we not done that, they wouldn't have attacked.

[Lil Loco]

Even if that was their "reasoning" behind attacking, it didn't make it right or justified...We weren't even combatants at the time.

[Patback399]

nobody wins wars

Just what I was about to say.

[Dragon Of Grief]

War doesn't determine who wins... it determines who survives.

[Patback399]

It really determines how stupid we've become.

[VulturEMaN]

why be (overly) stupid when life on earth is so short?

[Patback399]

why be (overly) stupid when life on earth is so short?

You read my mind. Whenever I feel angry, I just think, my life is too short to be pestered with such things. I should marvel in the beauty of everything around me. People don't understand the human condition in war. These are people's lives. I don't know about you... but there are no causes I'd die for, and certainly none I'd kill for.