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Dragon Of Grief

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2007, 01:01:53 pm »
Actually, from what I've heard, a lot of the common misconceptions on Satanism (i.e. Animal Sacrifice, Worship of Satan as Entity, etc.) were actually propaganda used against Satanism by the Roamn Empire during it's Christian era. It's funny how far thats gone.
The Roman Catholic Church spread lies about not only Satanists, but Witches as well, and various other Pagan groups... after awhile though, the Catholic Church intergrated with the various Pagan beliefs so then more Pagans would be willing to convert to Christianity/Catholicism.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 06:39:32 pm »
To each his own, I suppose. 

I don't quite understand why we consider human life to be so sacred as to think it should never be sacrificed.  Same with animals.  I mean...I don't advocate the thought of killing someone...especially not one who is unwilling to be killed.  But what if someone WANTS to be sacrificed for what they believe in?  Do we have the right to tell them no?  Not in my opinion.  And you can't condemn the sacrifice of animals if you are a Christian, because your own religion once advocated it, as do many other religions.

All this being said, I'm not 100% sure there's a term to describe my religious views because I have this idea of a higher power which created us (through the process of evolution) and allows us to behave as we want because there is no right or wrong in his (I use he though I believe the higher power lacks definition) eyes.  So my belief is that IF someone wants to practice Satanism, or any other religion for that matter, then who are we to say it's wrong?  It's their own demonstration of their free will which was bestowed upon them at the time of creation so why should any hindrance be laid upon them?


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Re: Satanism
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 09:59:12 pm »
Would it be accurate to call yourself a Deist Roger?

Each human life is worth as much as it gives back to society... given some people are disabled, and then we have children, but I am talking from a purely biological standpoint, not my own personal viewpoint. Each human life, is only worth as much as it contributes. I know that sounds quite pessimistic and depressing but it is a fact. If you are some lazy bum, causing trouble, stealing from society, etc, your life is not worth as much as someone who is a decent citizen and whatnot. Same in the animal kingdom. If an animal in the pack is sickly, or not pulling their weight, or disabled somehow, the other animals kill it and eat it.

My own personal view... I am against any kind of murdering or killing in the name of any God, or to any cause, whatever... I am against sacrificing of unwilling lives. If they openly agree to sacrifice themselves, or die for their God, then I say have at it... it is none of my business. Although I guess animals are "sacrificed" when they are killed, butchered, and made into ribs and chicken wings... but what I do, is weekly, I will thank the Goddess Earth for all she has provided us with. I believe it is important to show appreciation to the Earth for all she provides us.

And just to emphasize this again, Satanists do not practice human/child/animal sacrificing. Not the LeVayans ones anyways... those were lies spread by the Catholic Church to invoke fear.

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 10:57:54 pm »
Would it be accurate to call yourself a Deist Roger?

I'm not 100% sure. I've tried to find a term to match...but none seem to fit completely so I've mostly steered away from even using a label.

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2008, 10:49:40 pm »
Fair enough, Roger.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2008, 01:03:39 pm »
Would it be accurate to call yourself a Deist Roger?

I'm not 100% sure. I've tried to find a term to match...but none seem to fit completely so I've mostly steered away from even using a label.

I personally think putting yourself under a religious category is stupid. I mean, all you need to do to see the negative effects of that is to watch the news.

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2008, 05:03:03 pm »
You should not believe everything that the news says... they skew the stories most of the time to make it interesting.

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2008, 05:23:55 pm »
No crap. Saying "watch the news" in a debate like this, is like saying go watch An Inconvenient Truth in a debate on global warming  -  it just makes you look...well, dumb.

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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 07:26:50 am »
I see your point, but that was not what I meant...what I meant was just see all the crap that is going on like in the Middle East right now because of relgious categories (especially considering that the religions in question believe in practically the same thing)...unless of course the news is lying about that too...

Maybe this is why I decided to stop caring about politics a couple years back...

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 08:50:55 pm »
Islam has very few sects of Islam compared to Christianity... I mean look at Christianity... you have Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Evangelicals, etc. The list doesn't end there either. It just goes on and on. With Islam you have maybe 5 or 6 different sects at the most. 85% of Muslims are Shiite Muslims I believe. about 10% are Sunni. The rest are other various sects. The only difference between these two sects are that the Shiite believe Muhammed is prophet, and Sunni believe Muhammed's grandson I believe was a prophet. My info may be wrong, and I might have the names mixed up... but a large portion of Muslims belong to one sect.

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2008, 04:04:07 pm »
The differences between Shiites and Sunnis developed over who they thought should have been Muhammad's successor.

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Re: Satanism
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2008, 08:09:08 pm »
Ok then, that is what I thought.