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if a tree falls in a wood and no1 is around does it make a sounds?

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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2004, 05:46:29 pm »
No, because if no one is there to hear it, how CAN it make a noise? YOU hear the vibrations, which is sound, so, its utterly impossible.

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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2004, 07:07:02 pm »
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No, because if no one is there to hear it, how CAN it make a noise? YOU hear the vibrations, which is sound, so, its utterly impossible.
Exactly what I'm saying!!  :biggrin:  

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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2004, 07:15:34 pm »
Of all the things to debate, we had to pick this... :lol:

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2004, 01:33:04 pm »
Sound

Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.

~taken from dictionary.com

 

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2004, 02:07:14 pm »
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Sound

Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.

~taken from dictionary.com
Ah ha! So it doesn't have to be heard.  

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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2004, 02:15:34 pm »
it makes a sound that cant be heard

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2004, 03:47:11 pm »
Eh...isnt that a double negative?

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2004, 06:56:13 pm »
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Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing.

~taken from dictionary.com
Ah ha! So it doesn't have to be heard.
Yes capable! Without an ear, it's still a vibration! It's the potential...it's a sound when heard.

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2004, 07:24:36 pm »
Now i am sure. I do agree with Charlies Fallen Angel.  

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2004, 07:31:11 pm »
Vibrations capable of being heard by traveling through a medium, not by whether or not there is a set of ears available, I assume. It lists the range of human hearing also to show that the vibration must fall between them to be considered a sound.  
« Last Edit: September 20, 2004, 07:32:25 pm by DoomBringer316 »

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2004, 07:34:36 pm »
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Vibrations capable of being heard by traveling through a medium, not by whether or not there is a set of ears available, I assume. It lists the range of human hearing also to show that the vibration must fall between them to be considered a sound.
So if a dog can hear it, but we can't it's not a sound? I find that very arrogant of human beings. "If we can't hear it, it ain't real."
« Last Edit: September 21, 2004, 08:13:16 pm by Charliez Fallen Angel »

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2004, 04:48:25 pm »
So, charliez fallen angel, are you saying: Yea, it does make a noise OR No, it does not make a noise.?

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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2004, 04:52:12 pm »
No it does NOT make a noise.

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2004, 06:27:20 pm »
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So, charliez fallen angel, are you saying: Yea, it does make a noise OR No, it does not make a noise.?
I'm saying that it makes the possibility of a sound if some form of listening device were there. So if there was no device, then no. It didn't make the sound, just the vibrations.

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2004, 07:37:00 pm »
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So if a god can hear it, but we can't it's not a sound? I find that very arrogant of human beings. "If we can't hear it, it ain't real."

Uhh... what? I think you totally missed the point. You do realize the definition of sound was made by humans in the first place, correct? Sound is being described as relative to humans, not to some other creature or being. That's why they gave the human hearing range in the definition to begin with.