If MSP makes these posts to try to prove people wrong, he has every right to. This is the Debate Den, after all. In this case, i am going to say that you are quite wrong. First, I don't see how anyone can truly argue that God would be either a Democrat or a Republican. Both parties cover an extremely large range of views and people, and neither of them is encompassed only be people and views that Christianity would deem to be "good."
In terms of abortion: As already stated, then capital punishment (which we see in so many Republican dominated areas) would be completely unacceptable as well. I will agree that if you consider an unborun fetus to be a fully living human being, then the Ten Comandments condemn it. But some people truly believe that they are not yet living, and it is extremely different from any sort of killing. I won't insert my own personal views here, partially i admit is because i don't know exactly what to side with. But in terms of killing being against the Ten Comandments, then Bush and his cabinet would already be condemned to eternal ::Dolphin Noise::ation for causing the killing of around 100,000 Iraqi civilians. Jesus was
never in support of violent action like that. For homosexuality, i will admit that i haven't personally researched hardly anything about what the bible actually says denouncing it, but i see an amazing similarity to civil rights for Blacks in America. I have a hard time seeing how a true Christian could say that they don't deserve equal rights. These are only my personal views, but i don't picture Jesus as the type of person who would oppose Gay rights. I may be wrong, and if i am, feel free to throw this back at me maybe 50 years down the future, but i can see this really becoming a parallel of civil rights, where now that we are past the main controversy and have the benefit of hindsight, almost all reasonable people are amazed that the majority of America was oposed to such a thing at one time.
Wellfare: I don't see how you can call yourself a Christian if those are your real views. "Smellfare"?? You honestly don't know your own religion if you are opposed to trying to help those less fortunate than you. For goodness' sake, go read the Bible!!
31"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his glorious throne. 32All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate them as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left. 34Then the King will say to those on the right, `Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. 36I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.'
37"Then these righteous ones will reply, `Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?' 40And the King will tell them, `I assure you, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters,[1] you were doing it to me!'
41"Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, `Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his demons! 42For I was hungry, and you didn't feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn't give me anything to drink. 43I was a stranger, and you didn't invite me into your home. I was naked, and you gave me no clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn't visit me.'
44"Then they will reply, `Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?' 45And he will answer, `I assure you, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.' 46And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
Matthew 25:31-46
That's right from the Bible. According to Jesus then, you and possibly many other Republicans are condemned "into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his demons." In the spirit of Christianity, you would realistically do everything you could to help those around you, and not criticize wellfare for helping people that can't provide for themselves.
Evolution: Again, as I have already argued, Evolution has been proven scientifically. It is my personal belief that God would not even be opposed to the idea of evolution. I won't get all the way into this, because I already made this point in its appropriate thread. And also as already stated, if you want to argue that only proven facts should be taught in school, evolution is much closer to a proven fact than religion. God
can't be proven. That's the whole point. Religion is a belief in something that you personally feel or know to be true, but has no tangible proof of any kind. God has the power to physically make his presence known to every atheist or agnostic individual in the world. He could take the stars, and rearange them to spell out "I Exist" in the night sky. If he exists, he has not done so yet, and i don't believe he ever will. Trying to come from a neutral point of view, I believe that religion has not, and never will be proven with physical evidence. That does not mean that God, Jesus, or any other deity worshipped by another religion does not exist. Just don't say that any religion has been proven, because that is completely untrue.
