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« on: March 03, 2005, 05:23:54 pm »
Time for a new topic. Who do you think was the worst president in the history of the United States? I'll have to think about this one, so I'll get back to this later with my answer.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2005, 06:04:59 pm »
This is tough...

I'll go with the 3rd term of Hoover. The reasons are unknown but I will follow up on that later
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2005, 06:44:46 pm »
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This is tough...

I'll go with the 3rd term of Hoover. The reasons are unknown but I will follow up on that later
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.... 3rd term of Hoover? Hoover was in office 1 term.

Ronald Reagen.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2005, 06:46:01 pm »
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I'll go with the 3rd term of Hoover. The reasons are unknown but I will follow up on that later
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They're probably unknown because FDR's the only President that's served over two terms... XD

I'm not sure who I think the worst President ever was, but 10 bucks says one of the next 3 responses to the question will have the word "Bush" in it  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2005, 06:51:40 pm »
Ronald Reagan?  He scared the U.S.S.R. and was one of the reasons they were forced to collaspe.  Were the only superpower in this world and Eastern Europe owes great debt to us for freeing them.  Read Pizza in Warsaw, Torte in Pargue.

Ok my opinion on the worse president ever.  Jimmy Carter.  Iran laughed at us for trying to get the hostages out of Iran.  They shut up when the found out that the U.S. would do anything to them if Regan was president so the Allyota gave up the hostages before Regan took the oath.  He also caused runaway inflation.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2005, 06:54:58 pm »
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Ronald Regan?  He scared the U.S.S.R. and was one of the reasons they were forced to collaspe.  Were the only superpower in this world and Eastern Europe owes great debt to us for freeing them.  Read Pizza in Warsaw, Torte in Pargue.

Ok my opinion on the worse president ever.  Jimmy Carter.  Iran laughed at us for trying to get the hostages out of Iran.  They shut up when the found out that the U.S. would do anything to them if Regan was president so the Allyota gave up the hostages before Regan took the oath.  He also caused runaway inflation.
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Ronald Reagen and George H.W. created a huge deficit, which didn't get cleared until Clinton was in office. Guess what? George W threw away all Clinton's work, and now we have a $500 billion deficit, compared to the $200 billion surplus we had with Clinton.

I mainly hate Reagen because people act like he was the greatest President in the history of forever. cmonkey, if you read this, can you post your stuff about the Iran-Contra affair?
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2005, 07:06:46 pm »
He saved our economy.  I mean during a economic cycle the government regulated spending on what cycle were in and the FBR contolls the interest rates with the Keynes system of economics.  When Reagan took office he had to issue a tax cut and increase spending so people could go to work and spend on stuff to rebuild the economy.  The go-go 80's led to one of the fast pase economy of all time going from 900 in 1981 to over 11,000 in 2000.  Now that's amazing.  Actually George H.W. raised taxes in 1990 which led into the Clinton era.  Reagan acts likes a president because he could play the part very well (he was a movie star in the 30's and 40's).  Nuff said.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 07:08:21 pm »
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I'm not sure who I think the worst President ever was, but 10 bucks says one of the next 3 responses to the question will have the word "Bush" in it  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005, 07:10:58 pm »
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When Regan took office he had to issue a tax cut and increase spending so people could go to work and spend on stuff to rebuild the economy.
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Look at the Reagen and Bush years, and then look at the Clinton era.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2005, 07:19:20 pm »
BILL CLINTON. All I need to say.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005, 07:20:39 pm »
Bill Clinton was perhaps one of the best presidents of the 20th Century. Take away his scandals, and what are you left with? A man who helped America, only to have all his hard work put to waste by George W.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005, 07:21:27 pm »
I don't care.  You mispelled Reagan, IZ.  Well FDR created a huge deficit when he tried to jump start the economy during the Great Depression and everybody says that he was one of the greatest presidents of all time.  I don't need to look at the Iran-Contra scandal, cmonkey.  I've already looked.  Reagan apologized for that and there wasn't anymore action taken against him.  So what about debt.  It'll be taken care of.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2005, 07:24:59 pm »
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I don't care.  You mispelled Reagan, IZ.  Well FDR created a huge deficit when he tried to jump start the economy during the Great Depression and everybody says that he was one of the greatest presidents of all time.  I don't need to look at the Iran-Contra scandal, cmonkey.  I've already looked.  Reagan apologized for that and there wasn't anymore action taken against him.  So what about debt.  It'll be taken care of.
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The debt shouldn't be here in the first place! I don't give two figs if Reagen apologized or not, it still makes it wrong. By your logic, I can go out and kill someone, but as long as I apologize, it's fine and dandy.

Don't you even start telling me I mispelled something. I could probably create 10 pages on your spelling errors.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2005, 07:26:26 pm »
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I don't care.  You mispelled Reagan, IZ.  Well FDR created a huge deficit when he tried to jump start the economy during the Great Depression and everybody says that he was one of the greatest presidents of all time.  I don't need to look at the Iran-Contra scandal, cmonkey.  I've already looked.  Reagan apologized for that and there wasn't anymore action taken against him.  So what about debt.  It'll be taken care of.
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Oh, no. A misspelled word. There's one out of how many? One. How many have you had? Too many to count :P
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2005, 07:28:15 pm »
You mispelled again, IZ.  I have full respect for him and you should too even though you don't like him because he is a president and we all live in America.  Expect for those who live outside of the U.S.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2005, 07:30:20 pm »
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You mispelled again, IZ.  I have full respect for him and you should too even though you don't like him because he is a president and we all live in America.  Expect for those who live outside of the U.S.
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WHAT PART OF I DON'T CARE YOU IDIOT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!

That's complete and utter crap. I have never, nor will I ever respect someone I hate.

Don't get me started on your spelling or grammar.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2005, 07:30:29 pm »
Dude...who cares if you misspell a prez's name? If you can figure out which one they are talking about, then who gives a flying fig newton.

Buch.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2005, 07:31:53 pm »
You know, you shouldn't raise your voice like that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2005, 07:32:11 pm »
You know, I wouldn't have to if you weren't such a moron.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2005, 07:32:45 pm »
Owned to the fourth power squared.
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2005, 07:35:13 pm »
Admins shouldn't call other members morons like that.  I'm just expressing my opinion.  Fine we can start flame wars all we want here because we are debating over stuff.  I would spit your shoe right now for your Reagan comments.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2005, 07:39:21 pm »
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Admins shouldn't call other members morons like that.  I'm just expressing my opinion.  Fine we can start flame wars all we want here because we are debating over stuff.  I would spit your shoe right now for your Reagan comments.
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Yes. If you keep saying that to yourself then he could ban you because he has higher power than you :P

ReagEn was a horrible president. Period.
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2005, 07:43:11 pm »
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Admins shouldn't call other members morons like that.  I'm just expressing my opinion.  Fine we can start flame wars all we want here because we are debating over stuff.  I would spit your shoe right now for your Reagan comments.
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A debate is an intelligent conversation. You turned it into an argument when you noticed you were losing, and stop debating.

It's all the sudden bad to say something mean (yet true) about a President? I didn't realize the Republicans had completely taken over...
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2005, 07:49:45 pm »
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I'm not sure who I think the worst President ever was, but 10 bucks says one of the next 3 responses to the question will have the word "Bush" in it  :rolleyes:
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I want 10 bucks.  :biggrin:
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Kevin said George HW, close enough :P
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2005, 07:50:13 pm »
On a scale from 1-10, Regan was a 10.5.  He saved the economy.  That Iran Contra thing was not a big deal, he just wanted the troops to get free.  Carter was probably the worst.  Now the economy sucked under him.  Not under Reagan, it was great under him.  Anyone who thinks Reagan was a bad president really has no knowledge of history.  He helped the economy.  It was booming under him, the Republican Revolution.  He saved the world from the Soviet Union.  That is a historical FACT.
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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2005, 07:50:28 pm »
So MEEP!, we'll split it fairly. I get $8, you get $2. :tongue:

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On a scale from 1-10, Regan was a 10.5.  He saved the economy.  That Iran Contra thing was not a big deal, he just wanted the troops to get free.  Carter was probably the worst.  Now the economy sucked under him.  Not under Reagan, it was great under him.  Anyone who thinks Reagan was a bad president really has no knowledge of history.  He helped the economy.  It was booming under him, the Republican Revolution.  He saved the world from the Soviet Union.  That is a historical FACT.
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May I refer you to the chart.
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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2005, 08:00:00 pm »
That surplus when Clinton was in power wasn't really there it was just on paper.
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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2005, 08:01:41 pm »
...

Ookay then...

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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2005, 08:16:50 pm »
This is not a topic about spelling Fan of Spongebob get back on topic.
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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2005, 08:22:55 pm »
I think our worst prez was George Washington. Where does he get at basing this nation on Christianity? I AM a Christian, but come on, like anyone is going to listen..
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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2005, 08:26:34 pm »
Great on helping the nation, great on National Defense.  Reagan was the greatest presdient this nation ever had.  He made being conservative something to be proud of.  He showed the world being liberal ment spending everyone's money liberally for crap.
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« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2005, 08:34:29 pm »
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On a scale from 1-10, Regan was a 10.5.  He saved the economy.  That Iran Contra thing was not a big deal, he just wanted the troops to get free.  Carter was probably the worst.  Now the economy sucked under him.  Not under Reagan, it was great under him.  Anyone who thinks Reagan was a bad president really has no knowledge of history.  He helped the economy.  It was booming under him, the Republican Revolution.  He saved the world from the Soviet Union.  That is a historical FACT.
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« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2005, 08:42:02 pm »
Without a doubt the worst president I believe is Bill Clinton.
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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2005, 09:04:24 pm »
I'll probably go with Jimmy Carter.

Wanna hear something from me? I liked both Clinton and Reagan.
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2005, 08:37:47 am »
Even though Im not American.

I would say George W. Bush. 100%.
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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2005, 12:05:20 pm »
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Without a doubt the worst president I believe is Bill Clinton.
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Are you stupid? Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents. Did you see a deficit when he came out of office? No. I don't know if anyone has heard of this lately but he gave us something called a surplus. Not many presidents know what that even mean...
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2005, 01:11:28 pm »
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Without a doubt the worst president I believe is Bill Clinton.
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Are you stupid? Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents. Did you see a deficit when he came out of office? No. I don't know if anyone has heard of this lately but he gave us something called a surplus. Not many presidents know what that even mean...
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He was IMPEACHED!!! And that's bad.

Any president that was impeached are conidered my worst.
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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2005, 01:12:52 pm »
He got impeached? He lasted out his 8 years of prezidency
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2005, 01:13:19 pm »
But still...he was....
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2005, 01:22:12 pm »
If you last out your 8 yrs...thats no impeachment
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2005, 01:34:53 pm »
Worst President Ever I would have to say was Nixon.
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« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2005, 02:31:29 pm »
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He was IMPEACHED!!! And that's bad.

Any president that was impeached are conidered my worst.
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He was impeached by the House, not the Senate. He didn't deserve to be impeached anyway. Clinton definitely wasn't the worst president, his affair just blemishes his terms in office in the minds of most Americans.
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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2005, 04:10:41 pm »
While I strongly dislike Bush, my vote for the worst President ever goes to James Buchanan, who let the country slide into chaos.
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« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2005, 07:46:55 pm »
Nixon was not the worst President.  My grandma even got a job under one of his programs.  That Watergate thing was not a big deal.  Who gives a flip?(as doug funnie would say)  Impeach a great and effective president over stupid crap like that?  Who givees a flip about a socialist left-wing commie pig like George McGovern, who lost in the 2nd biggest landslide in history?
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« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2005, 08:00:07 pm »
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Nixon was a HORRIBLE president. That watergate thing wasn't no big deal as you say... it was one of the hugest covernment scandals in history.
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« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2005, 08:05:36 pm »
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Nixon was a HORRIBLE president. That watergate thing wasn't no big deal as you say... it was one of the hugest covernment scandals in history.
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I disagree. The watergate scandal wasnt as big of a deal as people think because it was simply a presidential candidate trying to make sure that he didn't get screwed over again. In the election before he won his 1st term he lost to Kennedy who worked with the Mafia to get extra votes, using things such as many dead people voting for Kennedy.
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« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2005, 08:29:49 pm »
The liberals hyped that up.  Nixon didn't do anything else that was wrong.  So that watercrap is the only thing that matters?  If I were Nixon i wouldn't had resigned i would had tried!!!  He was a great president!  And clinton was a crappy president!  He was an impached president, Clint.  If commiting adultry on your stupid wife and lying about it is nothing to sneeze at, than some stupid stealing from great Gorge McCrappin is nothing even to care about!!!!  Like what Clinton did wasn't a trillion times worse!!!!!
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« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2005, 09:24:15 pm »
How can you think Watergate isn't much of a scandal, but a blow job is?
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« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2005, 11:19:18 pm »
poor old clinton got his rocks off with a fatty and felt to embarresed to say anyhting about it, would YOU own up to doign the dirty with a slab like meline?

bush wasnt even voted in, it can hardly be fair when black people are made to stand for hours in the rain, at one of teh 7 booths allocated for high-black areas, while suburban whites get the other couple o hundred, or whatever it was.

people should not be put into the the most influential position of the world, just because of their religion, just cos he prays to god, doesnt make him smart, or capable, or not the most feared person int he world. hes just a glorified bully.
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