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« on: March 01, 2005, 07:51:44 pm »
Bill Clinton wanted everyone in the United States to get free Health Care. What a great idea.  Canada has free-health care to all Canadians.  However, the life-expectancy in Canada is lower than the life-expectancy in the U.S.  And do you know why?  Because when everybody has it, the quality of it decreases severly.  Sure, tax all the wealthy.  That is socialism!  Such socialistical ideas were around way back in 1925, with the Share Our Wealth campaign. Many people were out of work, so why not tax the well to do so we can all have the same amount of money.  Bill Clinton tried to do this, but Conservatives blocked his folley.  Efforts by Rush Limbaugh and others may they forever go down in history for their heroic efforts.  And they helped flush Clinton's publicity down the toilet.  Although Clinton did do a few conservative things, history has taught us this liberalism where everyone has health care does not work.

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2005, 07:55:01 pm »
I'll translate that into a decent topic starter:
Do you all think health care should free to all Americans?
I don't think it should be free, but I do think it should be much cheaper.

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2005, 08:23:05 pm »
I would like to see your statistics, MSP, about Canada's life expectancy as being lower. because as far as I know, my great grandmother lived to be 95, and my grandmother is 86. Please...care to delve deeper into this topic? The only difference I can tell, my dear, is that all our doctors and nurses are fleeing Canada for better pay in the US. We could EASILY change that, if we stopped spending so much money on defence that we don't even use.

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2005, 08:37:26 pm »
I wouldnt mind to have to NOT pay for the bill :P

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2005, 10:14:14 pm »
It shouldn't just be free, not enough money would keep it up. Although, I can't see it being so bad if it was cheaper. I mean, do they really need THAT much money?

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2005, 12:01:01 am »
if the UK and canada have free health care, it should be free all over the world.
Unless you're in a country plagued by war...then it'd be too expencive.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2005, 07:33:47 am »
Health care should be free or at least much cheaper. People who own small businesses, have a hard time paying for health care.

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2005, 09:08:34 am »
Technically 'free' isn't free at all. I still have to pay for certain things, you know.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2005, 12:12:16 pm »
Not free, perhaps cheaper, but absolutely not free.

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2005, 12:34:36 pm »
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Bill Clinton wanted everyone in the United States to get free Health Care. What a great idea.  Canada has free-health care to all Canadians.  However, the life-expectancy in Canada is lower than the life-expectancy in the U.S.  And do you know why?  Because when everybody has it, the quality of it decreases severly.  Sure, tax all the wealthy.  That is socialism!  Such socialistical ideas were around way back in 1925, with the Share Our Wealth campaign. Many people were out of work, so why not tax the well to do so we can all have the same amount of money.  Bill Clinton tried to do this, but Conservatives blocked his folley.  Efforts by Rush Limbaugh and others may they forever go down in history for their heroic efforts.  And they helped flush Clinton's publicity down the toilet.  Although Clinton did do a few conservative things, history has taught us this liberalism where everyone has health care does not work.
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The Share-Our-Wealth program wasn't from 1925, it was around 1935. It was an idea of Huey Long.

I don't think it should be entirely free, but it should definitely be cheap enough anyone can pay for it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2005, 07:02:24 pm »
Oh yeah 35 that's just a typo.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2005, 08:37:10 pm »
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Bill Clinton wanted everyone in the United States to get free Health Care. What a great idea.  Canada has free-health care to all Canadians.  However, the life-expectancy in Canada is lower than the life-expectancy in the U.S.  And do you know why?  Because when everybody has it, the quality of it decreases severly.  Sure, tax all the wealthy.  That is socialism!  Such socialistical ideas were around way back in 1925, with the Share Our Wealth campaign. Many people were out of work, so why not tax the well to do so we can all have the same amount of money.  Bill Clinton tried to do this, but Conservatives blocked his folley.  Efforts by Rush Limbaugh and others may they forever go down in history for their heroic efforts.  And they helped flush Clinton's publicity down the toilet.  Although Clinton did do a few conservative things, history has taught us this liberalism where everyone has health care does not work.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but your logic is brutally flawed, as is your source of facts.  The life expectancy in Canada is around 79 years.  The life expectancy in the United States is 77.6 years.  The difference is well within the margin of error.  However, if you are comparing socialism to life expectancy, look no farther than Sweden and the rest of North/West Europe.  Sweden has the second highest life expectancy rate on earth, and all of Western and Northern Europe have life expectancies in the high 70s.  They are all also governed by Social Democracy, an evolved form of socialism.  

By the way, as much as politicians refuse to admit it, we live under a mild form of Social Democracy in the United States.

By the way #2, Share Our Wealth began in 1934, well into the Great Depression (hence people not having jobs).  It was mearly a poorly planned idea, and it never got past the development stages.  

So, the lesson we all learned today is, whenever MSP writes anything, take it with a basketball-sized grain of salt.  That, or do some research and prove him wrong (because he always is).
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2005, 04:47:34 pm »
Free health care is absurd, but I do agree it should be a lot cheaper.