Topic: Transfat/smoking bans

[MiraclrPlz]

There are more smokers than there are black people(13% of the nation).  more twice as many!(including African-Americans that smoke, of course).  That's a pretty big minority!

[MiraclrPlz]

uuuuuuhhhhh....  i foreget the statistics.  I read 35 percent of men and 28 or 29 something per cent of women.

...70 percent?

Even if it was both 35% of men and 35% of women in this country... it would be 35% of the country...

[J.R.]

He was asking for a source.

[MiraclrPlz]

i think i read it on wikipedia

[J.R.]

The American Heart Assocation states that an estimated 25.1 million men (23.4%) and 20.9 million women (18.5%) are smokers.

[MiraclrPlz]

As opposed to an average the world over, here is the percentages for each country, I found:

Approximately 5.5 trillion cigarettes are produced globally each year by the tobacco industry, smoked by over 1.1 billion people, which is more than 1/6 of the world's total population.

Smoking Prevalence by Gender(men left, women on the right)
 PERCENT SMOKING
REGION MEN WOMEN
Africa    29%      4%
United States 35% 22%
Eastern Mediterranean 35% 4%
Europe 46% 26%
Southeast Asia 44% 4%
Western Pacific 60% 8%
(2007, World Health Organization estimates)

[J.R.]

Is there a point yur trying to make here?

And you changed the year on those statistics from 2000 to 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette

[MiraclrPlz]

those statistics were not from wikipedia.  i suppose in 2007 it is about the same statistics

[cmonkey]

According to the Centers for Disease Control:

    *  Tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States. Cigarette smoking causes an estimated 438,000 deaths, or about 1 of every 5 deaths, each year. This estimate includes approximately 38,000 deaths from secondhand smoke exposure.
    * Cigarette smoking kills an estimated 259,500 men and 178,000 women in the United States each year.
    * More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.
    * On average, adults who smoke cigarettes die 14 years earlier than nonsmokers.
    * Based on current cigarette smoking patterns, an estimated 25 million Americans who are alive today will die prematurely from smoking-related illnesses, including 5 million people younger than 18.

[J.R.]

those statistics were not from wikipedia.  i suppose in 2007 it is about the same statistics

You suppose wrong.  The number of smokers from past years till now has declined steadily.

And care to share a link to where you found those stats from?  Because I can type what you posted in a google search and the wikipedia page I showed is the one and only word-for-word result.

[MiraclrPlz]

Smoking can do good things like relax you, help you concentrate, helps your digestion, stimulates you, helps your nerves.  Those are most but not all of the positive effects, including reducing risk of prostate cancer.  no1 ever mentions those things

[J.R.]

And you didn't answer me.

[IZ]

Smoking can do good things like relax you, help you concentrate, helps your digestion, stimulates you, helps your nerves.  Those are most but not all of the positive effects, including reducing risk of prostate cancer.  no1 ever mentions those things

because there are far more bad points of smoking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_tobacco_smoking

[MiraclrPlz]

it helps you lose weight.  being obese can lead to even more serious health risks.

[J.R.]

Someone's losing this debate fast.