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« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2004, 06:08:42 pm »
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Okay, fine. I can accept your view on that. I am being rude. I will quit being insulting but I will NOT quit speaking the truth.
Since when did you START speaking the truth?

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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2004, 06:12:33 pm »
The truth in YOUR opinion may not necessarily be the truth in MY opinion. For instance, I think whales are a lot smarter than we humans make them out to be. But, most other people don't agree with me. But that statement, to me, is true.

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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2004, 06:15:34 pm »
Truth, by definition, is definite.

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« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2004, 06:18:39 pm »
Then religion can not be true. It is not definite unless you have faith. Truth needs to be defined.

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« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2004, 06:21:00 pm »
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Actually, no. I'm 15, and I'm able to back up what I say. MEEP!'s older and way more intelligent than you. So stop it, or expect an IP ban.
Kevin...sigh. You cannot ban him for that...he is putting up a good debate, and I see nothing wrong with it. There's really no reason to ban him unless he breaks any rules, and there's really no reason to IP ban him unless his warning is up to 100%.

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Okay, fine. I can accept your view on that. I am being rude. I will quit being insulting but I will NOT quit speaking the truth.

Thank you...I was going to have to warn you for insulting some members...I know a couple of people on this site that really can't take insults very well. So keep in mind that there are some younger members here, and loosen up on the insults. I'm not trying to get on your back about it or anything, just chill a little, mmkay?

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« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2004, 08:02:29 pm »
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Proof: C- student.
Not at all. A C- in Yale is better than As in in some places.

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The only reason he got into Yale was because of his Dad.

Getting in is one thing but getting out is totally another. His Dad has no effect on whether or not he graduated.
 

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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2004, 08:09:18 pm »
I have to say that I agree with Elizabeth Rose on this one. Although getting an "A" in high-school or junior high is admirable, it is seen as a great and legendary acheivement to get an "A" in college. To get an "A" in a college that is seen as one of the world's premier places of higher learning is a task few are up to. I would wish to get a "C" in Yale. I doubt that I could, though. I doubt you could even complete one assignment in any class at Yale, Harvard, etc.

Once again baseless, mean-spirited accusations from someone who doesn't really care about the truth but would just rather say what he wishes and hope nobody catches him in his lies. Almost sounds like Kerry...

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« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2004, 07:49:10 am »
I just found this wonferful website showing how Bush can flip-flop too.

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site...WJcP7H&b=118263

Everything is based on newspaper articles, so yeah. don't try and say it's all bull spit.

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« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2004, 12:50:07 pm »
...

It was his dad who payed him to get through... and I would not doubt if his dad payed him to graduate...

He also got C-'s in HIGH SCHOOL.

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« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2004, 01:20:38 pm »
Kerry's a idiot. He's for abortion and stuff.

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« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2004, 02:51:06 pm »
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Kerry's a idiot. He's for abortion and stuff.
"and stuff"

So people with different opinions than yours make them idiots? Do explain.

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« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2004, 04:28:43 pm »
Bush's Abortion Flip-Flop?
by David Corn


 hich current candidate for President reversed the abortion stand he espoused as a Congressional candidate in the seventies and adopted a position more acceptable to the mainstream of his party? If you said Al Gore, you may be only half right. George W. Bush appears to have done the same.

In 1978, Bush, a 31-year-old oilman, was seeking the Republican nomination in Texas' 19th Congressional District, which included Midland, Odessa and Lubbock. He was locked in a fierce battle with Jim Reese, a veteran campaigner and Reagan Republican. Days before the June 3 primary runoff, Bush was interviewed by a reporter for the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. Reese had attacked Bush for being cozy with liberal Rockefeller Republicans. In response, Bush listed conservative positions he held. "I'm not for the extension of the time to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment," he told the paper. "I feel the ERA is unnecessary. I'm not for the federal funding of abortions. I've done nothing to promote homosexuality in our society." But he went on to explain his view on abortion. The Avalanche-Journal reported: "Bush said he opposes the pro-life amendment favored by Reese and favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question. 'That does not mean I'm for abortion,' he said."


So, Bush opposed the main goal of the antiabortion movement, a constitutional amendment banning abortion, which the GOP had endorsed. Moreover, he echoed the language of abortion-rights supporters: Abortion is a matter best left to a woman and her doctor. Bush's reported remarks were in step with the family position. His father, who as a Congressman was such a proponent of family planning he was nicknamed Rubbers, supported abortion rights until he became Reagan's running mate in 1980.

The Bush presidential campaign insists that Sylvia Teague, the Avalanche-Journal reporter, misreported Bush's comments. "We consider this [article] a misinterpretation," says Dan Bartlett, a spokesman for George W. Bush. "He is pro-life. He was always opposed to abortion." But Mel Tittle, the current managing editor of the Avalanche-Journal, who was with the paper in the seventies, says of Teague, "To the best of our knowledge, she was a very reliable reporter. I'll let the writing stand for itself." Teague, now an award-winning investigative journalist at KCBS-TV in Los Angeles, maintains, "I have confidence that whatever I wrote then was accurate. I don't recall the Bush [Congressional] campaign coming to me and saying he was misquoted."

Bush beat Reese in the runoff, but he lost the general election. His next race was not until 1994, when he challenged Governor Ann Richards. In that campaign he avoided discussing abortion. "It's not an issue in the 1994 governor's race," he said. His campaign literature noted, "The United States has settled the abortion issue." But Bush did say he opposed abortion except in instances of rape and incest and when a mother's life is in danger--a fundamental change from the remarks that appeared in the Lubbock newspaper. Weeks before the 1994 election, he vowed, "I will do everything in my power to restrict abortions."

Bush won the election, and as Governor, he signed several pieces of antiabortion legislation. As a presidential contender, he has backed a constitutional amendment banning abortion and favored preserving the GOP platform plank that calls for the amendment. He has pronounced himself "pro-life" but has refused to pledge that he will appoint antiabortion judges and select an antiabortion running mate. That has raised suspicions among hard-core anti-choice activists. Yet Jerry Falwell and Henry Hyde have vouched for Bush's views. The National Right to Life Committee endorsed him in February.

After his 1978 defeat, did Bush change his position on abortion to be more electable as a Republican? Earlier in the current campaign, Al Gore's abortion transition was an issue. Although Gore maintained that he had "always" supported abortion rights, as a Congressman in the seventies and early eighties, he cast antiabortion votes and declared that "abortion is wrong" and "innocent human life must be protected." Gore eventually acknowledged, "Yes, my position has changed." The Republicans hammered Gore for being a flip-flopper, and Mindy Tucker, a Bush spokeswoman, said that Bush may use Gore's shift on abortion to show that he'll do anything to get elected. "I think people want to see consistency with their leaders," she explained. With his own consistency in question, Bush might want to refrain from blasting Gore for playing politics with abortion.




So.....that's all the newspaper has to say bout that....lol
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« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2004, 02:51:47 pm »
I can call you an idiot because you like George Bush.

Megan

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« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2004, 02:57:08 pm »
Who are you talking to?

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« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2004, 03:01:31 pm »
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spongemonkey13 Posted: Oct 24 2004, 06:59 PM

i say they both are idiots but i would rather go with the texas idiot

Have you ever listened to GW speak in an interview? You can't seriously call this man an idiot. I can call you an idiot on the grounds of:

- You don't back up your claims with evidence
- You don't use proper punctuation or capitalization
- Your reason is flawed and fuzzy and hard to follow. Not to mention presumptous and placing high importance on your own opinions, something idiots tend to do.

I can't be sure you are an idiot, but I've provided a much more compelling case than you have.

I agree, though, John F-ing Kerry is an idiot.

Sorry, that was meant for KerryBuster!