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Title: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 11, 2006, 03:52:33 pm
I am getting sick of the racism in thei country. Racism towards WHITE people. Don't believe me in saying white people are discrimenated? look at this list.
Black History Month
NAACP
Black Women can get whatever job they want.
Black people can say the word "nigga." If a white person says, all hell breaks loose.
Hispanic heritage Month

I Pointed these out cause they are the most common.

Have you noticed, If we made National Acciation for the Advancement of White People, We would be racist? And if we made White aprecciation month, that too would be racist? It is pathetic.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on December 11, 2006, 04:01:18 pm
http://www.unitedspongebob.com/forums/index.php/topic,14570.0.html

Just for reference on a more detailed "analysis"
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 11, 2006, 04:04:20 pm
Eh I need to add some stuff from Sean's list don't I?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 11, 2006, 05:03:32 pm
I am getting sick of the racism in thei country. Racism towards WHITE people. Don't believe me in saying white people are discrimenated? look at this list.
Black History Month
NAACP
Black Women can get whatever job they want.
Black people can say the word "nigga." If a white person says, all hell breaks loose.
Hispanic heritage Month

I Pointed these out cause they are the most common.

Have you noticed, If we made National Acciation for the Advancement of White People, We would be racist? And if we made White aprecciation month, that too would be racist? It is pathetic.


I've brought this up at school and got called racist for it. I forgot that only white people can be racist.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 11, 2006, 07:26:32 pm
But your school is fked up and has major issues to being with (no offense)....

I think SSS said it best in the 2nd post of the old topic:

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Funny you should ask (literally your post was kinda funny especially the WET part), anyways it's because the whites (Yeah I am one), are the majority and the minority gets offended by the majority, maybe that's how it goes for some reason, but I think the real reason is because that if you look into history is that we've caused alot of the racism, maybe that's the reason. Besides there is some racist Blacks, Asians, etc. who don't like the other minorities or the majority.

We cannot get over this barrier of being called racist until every last white person stops being racist. I see racism daily where I grew up. When I went to my first college, I heard it instead of seeing it. When I went to a city school, I saw everyone in harmony.

Some of the most well-written rap music doesn't have the n-word in it. This is a fact.

Sadly, we're gonna have to wait another 4 generations for racist people to be down to low levels.

And by then Bush #3 will declare gays must be rocketed into the sun.

But I'll either be dead from old age or in Iceland.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Roger on December 11, 2006, 07:31:45 pm
You forget also that children of "minority groups" can get scholarships for college just for being a "minority."

I call them "minorities" because the truth is that Caucasians are the minority.  There are more people in the world who would fall under the categories of Hispanic, Black, and Asian than under the Caucasian category.

Yes.  We ARE discriminated against. But we're racist if we say anything about it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on December 11, 2006, 07:49:03 pm
What people don't understand is that by making these programs to help minorities, it's seperating us even more.

And hate crime legislation is just a bad idea.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: carterhawk on December 11, 2006, 09:39:35 pm
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Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on December 12, 2006, 06:23:07 am
If you have some free time, go to a library and pick up Coming of Age in Mississippi by Anne Moody, or really, any detailed nonfiction book about the Civil Rights movement. 

We don't live in a void of history.  Everything that exists around you, social, physical, or mental, exists because of what has happened throughout time.  Forty years may seem like an eternity to you, but in terms of real social change, its quite short. 

Forty years ago, the south was still full of Jim Crow laws that prevented blacks from voting, or owning land where they wanted to, or being able to sell their crops to improve their financial status. (Most states had federal restrtictions on how much of one crop could be exported from them.  The state governments got to choose how much each farmer could sell, and they have white farmers the vast majority of it, despite there being about equal amounts of land owned by black and white farmers.)  Similarly, if there was even a rumor that someone was a member of CORE or the NAACP in states like Mississippi or Alabama, they often "disappeared", were beaten, or had their families threatened.

That is without even mentioning individual incidents like what happened to Emmit Till (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmit_Till).  Hint: Emmit Till whistled at a white woman.  He was beaten, shot through the head, and had his throat slit by two men, who then tied an anchor around his neck with barbed wire and threw his body into a river.  They were aquitted by an all white jury, who took 67 minutes to reach a verdict, only because they stopped to drink soda.

The Civil Rights acts of 1964 and 1968 may have changed the governments enforcement of racism, but they did almost nothing to change the social and economic aspects of it.  Blacks who were poor from decades of Jim Crow laws and rampant racism were still poor, and racism still exists today.

That is why affirmative action, minority scholarships, and other race-specific programs exist today.  I believe those programs should continue until the proportion of blacks who go to college is the same as whites who go to college, at which point, history can become history, and not a current event.

As for Roger's comment.  First of all, until we live under a world government, whites are not a minority.  A law that someone makes in China or Ethiopia has no bearing on your life.  Secondly, even if you look at the world as a whole, you need to count money, non population.  Money is what creates power.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 12, 2006, 01:45:01 pm
I worry about my black cousin being subjected to racism soley because of his skin color. It isnt fair.

Complete opposite of my point. I am saying that Black people are discriminatory towards WHITE people; not the other way around.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 12, 2006, 02:05:45 pm
I worry about my black cousin being subjected to racism soley because of his skin color. It isnt fair.

Complete opposite of my point. I am saying that Black people are discriminatory towards WHITE people; not the other way around.

It is true. Black kids get away with everything in our school. But if a white student preforms the same act, we are suspended or expelled or given worse punishment.

All of them , every single one, pull the racist card.

" You just hate me because I'm black!"

Yes, thats exactly it. Howd they know?

I hope you can sense the sarcasm in that.


But really, Our vice principal got yelled at by this black lady saying " your racist and you hate blacks thats why you alawys pick on my child""

The vice principal pulled out her picture of her and her husband, who just so happened to be a BLACK MAN.

Black people know they can get awat scott free when they pull that crap , thats why they do it.

God forbid a white person told a black person they were racist. Youd have a gang after you no sooner than you could call 911.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Sb129 on December 12, 2006, 02:13:26 pm
Yeah, I'm sick of all that, another one is Kwanzaa why the heck do they have toi elebrate that?!
Ummm....Hello! The Civil War was over over 200 (maybe 100, I don't care now) years now! America apologized for that. Plus, alot of white people here in the U.S., their family, weren't even here during that, they were probally pciking potatoes or corn!!!! Plus I doubt most people in Africa celebrate Kwanzaa, they celebrate holidays of their religion.I can understand about in the 40's & that black only area stuff. But today we're equal! If a white man gets a job & he's rich & your'e hardly getting by that's your fualt for not going all the way through school!  :rolleyes:

I have black/hispanic friends but come on!
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: carterhawk on December 12, 2006, 02:56:39 pm
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Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 12, 2006, 03:10:51 pm
You aren't getting my point. Society is RACIST towards white people. Want some examples?

NAACP
Giving Scholarships just because you are a minority.
Black History and Hispanic Heritage Month. If we Made White History Month, we would be racist.
If I say the word dolphin noise, spic, or anyhting else, I will go to jail. If a black or hispanic or indian person calls me a cracker nothing happens.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 12, 2006, 05:45:09 pm
You aren't getting my point. Society is RACIST towards white people. Want some examples?
cmonkey's post made me rethink a few things. (btw, I have read exerpts of that book...i think)

Society is racist to whites because whites were racist to (pretty much) everyone else as little as 50 years ago. WE $%#@ed up. Like cmonkey said, until the % of minorities in college is about the same as the majority, then racial groups will continue.

I believe that MLK.jr said "God was proud the day that the NAACP was created, and he will be even more proud the day it will be torn down". Then he clarified that the only reason for tearing it down would be because it is no longer needed.

Another good book that I PREACH others to read is 'The Autobiography of Malcolm X'. Most half-price book stores carry many copies of it, and EVERY library in the world has it (guarunteed). It gives a very straightforward view of what life was like all those years ago, and it is a very different America that what we know of today. Most colleges read this book in their upper level English classes as a project, because it covers so much of America at once that a study of the 600 page book would be close to 2000 pages.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 12, 2006, 06:40:24 pm
Ok. There are alot of Chinese in college generally. They are smart. Not that they can pull the minority card...

But Black people, in a non-racist way, usually don't even try to better themselves. These "gangstas" are taking the Civil Rights Movement and flushing it down the toilet. Think I'm racist? Bill Crosby said it first.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 12, 2006, 07:25:39 pm
Ok. There are alot of Chinese in college generally. They are smart. Not that they can pull the minority card...

But Black people, in a non-racist way, usually don't even try to better themselves. These "gangstas" are taking the Civil Rights Movement and flushing it down the toilet. Think I'm racist? Bill Crosby said it first.
Bill Cosby has said quite a few idiotic things in his life, and quoting them makes you no better than him. sosry.

Go buy an apartment in the bad part of the nearest city to you, and learn a bit more before judging something that you seem to have little to no knowledge about.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 12, 2006, 07:42:28 pm
Its just the fact that only white people can be racist.

If a black person calls us a "gringo" "cracka" or whatever else, its ok, nothing is wrong.


But if we say nugga, then all hell breaks lose.

They refer to themselves as a nugga, and yet if a white person says it then once again, all hell breaks lose.

If they are so agaisnt us calling them names, then why should they be able to call us names?

Why should they be able to call themselves THE SAME NAMES WE JUST GOT IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING THEM THAT?

WTF??

DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS!?

I mean really now!
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 12, 2006, 07:53:46 pm
Its just the fact that only white people can be racist.
If a black person calls us a "gringo" "cracka" or whatever else, its ok, nothing is wrong.
But if we say nugga, then all hell breaks lose.
They refer to themselves as a nugga, and yet if a white person says it then once again, all hell breaks lose.
If they are so agaisnt us calling them names, then why should they be able to call us names?
Why should they be able to call themselves THE SAME NAMES WE JUST GOT IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING THEM THAT?
WTF??
DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS!?
I mean really now!

I can't remember the last time i heard someone called a cracka or a gringo...
you really need to change schools if this is what your atmosphere is like there...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on December 12, 2006, 08:50:09 pm
Ok. There are alot of Chinese in college generally. They are smart. Not that they can pull the minority card...

But Black people, in a non-racist way, usually don't even try to better themselves. These "gangstas" are taking the Civil Rights Movement and flushing it down the toilet. Think I'm racist? Bill Crosby said it first.
Bill Cosby has said quite a few idiotic things in his life, and quoting them makes you no better than him. sosry.

Go buy an apartment in the bad part of the nearest city to you, and learn a bit more before judging something that you seem to have little to no knowledge about.
Actually, he's pretty accurate when he be talkin' about dem H'ville Gs.  He isn't talking about poor people, he be talking about dem Gs in da hood that would rather take welfare for the rest of their life (and get any other money selling drugs) than get an education and be somebody.

They still be callin' me a cracka ova in dis side of the planet.  I find it amusing.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: ASE2 on December 13, 2006, 12:10:01 am
yah its me, see this post: http://www.unitedspongebob.com/forums/index.php/topic,4175.msg315020.html#new
================================================================================
Reasons why the whiny whities in this thread should stfu:
Hitler
KKK
Jim Crow laws
Chinese Exclusion Act
WW2 Internment Camps
Tuskegee Syphilis Study
Indian Reservations
Apartheid
Zoot Suit Riots
1992 Los Angeles riots
2005 Cronulla riots
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You aren't getting my point. Society is RACIST towards white people. Want some examples?

NAACP
Giving Scholarships just because you are a minority.
Black History and Hispanic Heritage Month. If we Made White History Month, we would be racist.
If I say the word dolphin noise, spic, or anyhting else, I will go to jail. If a black or hispanic or indian person calls me a cracker nothing happens.
Just 50 years ago a woman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks) was arrested for not giving her seat up to a white man.
Just 40 years ago a man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King) fighting for everyone to treated equal regardless of color was murdered.
Just 30 years ago schools (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milliken_v._Bradley) in detroit were allowed to maintain segregation between whites and blacks.
It took 20 years for Martin Luther King Jr.'s importance in the civil rights movement to be officialy recognized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Day).
Just 15 years ago the beating of a black man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots#Reginald_Denny_beating) by white officers caused several days of massive rioting in Los Angeles.

You think racism against minorities is ancient history, but it isnt. It is something that still happens to this day. Perhaps because you are too young or because your education is lacking, you fail to realize that it is thanks in part to organizations like the NAACP that people like  Michael Jordan, Whoopi Goldberg, and Jimi Hendrix were able to realize their dreams and achieve so much. White people started out in charge and with all the advantages. Do not confuse euqality finaly starting to come about with racism against white people. I hope one day you realize how much it has sucked, historicaly, to be black, to be oppressed, to be treated as less than human.

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Its just the fact that only white people can be racist.

If a black person calls us a "gringo" "cracka" or whatever else, its ok, nothing is wrong.


But if we say nugga, then all hell breaks lose.

They refer to themselves as a nugga, and yet if a white person says it then once again, all hell breaks lose.

If they are so agaisnt us calling them names, then why should they be able to call us names?

Why should they be able to call themselves THE SAME NAMES WE JUST GOT IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING THEM THAT?

WTF??

DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS!?

I mean really now!
250 years ago you may well have heard this out in the fields:
"Nigga get your ass over here!"
*WHIP*
*WHIP*
*WHIP*


Do you understand now?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 13, 2006, 12:47:07 pm
"Whenever this issue of compensatory or preferential treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree, but he should ask for nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic. For it is obvious that if a man enters the starting line of a race three hundred years after another man, the first would have to perform some incredible feat in order to catch up." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on December 13, 2006, 01:11:41 pm
Why do you guys care so much? These programs like the NAACP help people who come from impoverished places. It is to help black people, not to hurt white people.

"White people shouldn't be playing the blues anyway. What the f**k have they got to be blue about? Banana Republic's run out of khakis again? The espresso machine jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up?"
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on December 13, 2006, 01:31:34 pm
Why do you guys care so much? These programs like the NAACP help people who come from impoverished places. It is to help black people, not to hurt white people.

"White people shouldn't be playing the blues anyway. What the f**k have they got to be blue about? Banana Republic's run out of khakis again? The espresso machine jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up?"
No, I don't think anyone here is complaining about the NAACP.  We are complaining about things like black or Hispanic people getting scholarships to universities SOLELY FOR BEING A "MINORITY".  They get special money, then flunk out half the time, while I get no money and have a 3.5 GPA.  I know some really intelligent black people, and they personally find it disgusting that trashy people can come in, get a scholarship, and act stupid just because they are black.

Did you know that Annapolis has to take a certain amount of minorities each year?  No option.  My family knew a guy who had a perfect score, but got turned down so they could accept a minority who did not have a perfect score because the school had not taken in enough minorities yet.  Screw the fact that the other guy had a perfect score.  Sure, crap happened long ago, but until everyone has to work the same as everyone else, there will not be equality.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 13, 2006, 01:59:40 pm
No, I don't think anyone here is complaining about the NAACP.

You aren't getting my point. Society is RACIST towards white people. Want some examples?

NAACP

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on December 13, 2006, 02:03:41 pm
No, I don't think anyone here is complaining about the NAACP.

You aren't getting my point. Society is RACIST towards white people. Want some examples?

NAACP

 :rolleyes:
Daniel just didn't do his research / doesn't know what he's talking about.

Liz pretty much summed up my two cents.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: aligirl on December 13, 2006, 02:11:09 pm
I hate how common racism is becoming. I know alot of racist people, in fact one of them is a staff at my school. Several black girls who are very good at basketball didn't make the team because of being black, while other white girls made the team when they weren't very good at basketball, in the opinions of me and everyone else talking about it at my school. A guy in my class calls this one other kid a "cracka" and claims he isn't racist. Also, my friend's brother is very racist against blacks. When he was talking about this white girl named Ericka, he said, "That kid's got a black name". I wish people would get it through their heads that race is just the darkness of skin and doesn't change who a person really is.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on December 13, 2006, 02:14:04 pm
I hate how common racism is becoming. I know alot of racist people, in fact one of them is a staff at my school. Several black girls who are very good at basketball didn't make the team because of being black, while other white girls made the team when they weren't very good at basketball, in the opinions of me and everyone else talking about it at my school. A guy in my class calls this one other kid a "cracka" and claims he isn't racist. Also, my friend's brother is very racist against blacks. When he was talking about this white girl named Ericka, he said, "That kid's got a black name". I wish people would get it through their heads that race is just the darkness of skin and doesn't change who a person really is.
Saying "That Kid's Got a Black Name" isn't necessarily racism.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 13, 2006, 02:59:59 pm
I hate how common racism is becoming. I know alot of racist people, in fact one of them is a staff at my school. Several black girls who are very good at basketball didn't make the team because of being black, while other white girls made the team when they weren't very good at basketball, in the opinions of me and everyone else talking about it at my school. A guy in my class calls this one other kid a "cracka" and claims he isn't racist. Also, my friend's brother is very racist against blacks. When he was talking about this white girl named Ericka, he said, "That kid's got a black name". I wish people would get it through their heads that race is just the darkness of skin and doesn't change who a person really is.
Saying "That Kid's Got a Black Name" isn't necessarily racism.
It's stereotyping, because you're saying a name is only associated with a certain race.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 13, 2006, 03:35:59 pm
yep!
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 13, 2006, 05:25:35 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: SpongeBrain on December 13, 2006, 05:40:42 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.


Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.
Nothing to do with being black.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 13, 2006, 05:58:25 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.

That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on December 13, 2006, 06:13:37 pm
Why do you guys care so much? These programs like the NAACP help people who come from impoverished places. It is to help black people, not to hurt white people.

"White people shouldn't be playing the blues anyway. What the f**k have they got to be blue about? Banana Republic's run out of khakis again? The espresso machine jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up?"
No, I don't think anyone here is complaining about the NAACP.  We are complaining about things like black or Hispanic people getting scholarships to universities SOLELY FOR BEING A "MINORITY".  They get special money, then flunk out half the time, while I get no money and have a 3.5 GPA.  I know some really intelligent black people, and they personally find it disgusting that trashy people can come in, get a scholarship, and act stupid just because they are black.

Did you know that Annapolis has to take a certain amount of minorities each year?  No option.  My family knew a guy who had a perfect score, but got turned down so they could accept a minority who did not have a perfect score because the school had not taken in enough minorities yet.  Screw the fact that the other guy had a perfect score.  Sure, crap happened long ago, but until everyone has to work the same as everyone else, there will not be equality.
Quota's are supposed to be illegal.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 13, 2006, 06:18:33 pm
Why do you guys care so much? These programs like the NAACP help people who come from impoverished places. It is to help black people, not to hurt white people.

"White people shouldn't be playing the blues anyway. What the f**k have they got to be blue about? Banana Republic's run out of khakis again? The espresso machine jammed? Hootie and the Blowfish are breaking up?"
No, I don't think anyone here is complaining about the NAACP.  We are complaining about things like black or Hispanic people getting scholarships to universities SOLELY FOR BEING A "MINORITY".  They get special money, then flunk out half the time, while I get no money and have a 3.5 GPA.  I know some really intelligent black people, and they personally find it disgusting that trashy people can come in, get a scholarship, and act stupid just because they are black.

Did you know that Annapolis has to take a certain amount of minorities each year?  No option.  My family knew a guy who had a perfect score, but got turned down so they could accept a minority who did not have a perfect score because the school had not taken in enough minorities yet.  Screw the fact that the other guy had a perfect score.  Sure, crap happened long ago, but until everyone has to work the same as everyone else, there will not be equality.
Quota's are supposed to be illegal.
Quotas ARE illegal. Colleges and institutions use racial background to choose between two EQUAL candidates, so therefore a black person who has a 2.4 won't get in over a white person who has a 3.9
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 13, 2006, 06:34:43 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.

That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.


This is what goes on down here in Florida.

This is what happens where I live.

Because any guy i know or think of who does this, just so happens to be black.

I am not racist, my best friend is black.

So dont give me that Sh!t.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: SpongeBrain on December 13, 2006, 06:42:11 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.

That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.


This is what goes on down here in Florida.

This is what happens where I live.

Because any guy i know or think of who does this, just so happens to be black.

I am not racist, my best friend is black.

So dont give me that Sh!t.
That doesn't mean that it's an inherited trait of black people. He can give you "sh!t" if he wants to.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on December 13, 2006, 06:44:40 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.

That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.


This is what goes on down here in Florida.

This is what happens where I live.

Because any guy i know or think of who does this, just so happens to be black.

I am not racist, my best friend is black.

So dont give me that Sh!t.
That doesn't mean that it's an inherited trait of black people. He can give you "sh!t" if he wants to.
She was making a claim on how things are where she lives, not the race in general.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 13, 2006, 06:52:41 pm
No, it is not ok that " sure it sucks being black"

They say "racism" over the stupidest of things, and yell and cause hell to break lose if we use the N word.

But its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that? That doesn't make sense. They are just trying to make the white people look bad.


Im sorry these "gangsters: and "straight up G's" have to wear their pants down at their knees to be "cool or equal"

Im sorry these blacks can fail everything but still get a scholarship over a white person who has worked their ass off.

Im sorry that they can go around calling each other niugguhs and everything is ok, but as soon as a white person says it, they get jumped.

Im sorry that they have to sell drugs on the side and wear "ice" and "bling" to be apperciated.

Im sorry they call their woman" bitches", but are complaining that we arent being fair to them, what about women?

And most of all, im sorry that I "hate you cuz your black"


I am sick of this sh!t. I really am. The crap that black get away with. Now dont get me wrong, one of my best friends is black. But really now, does anyone see where Im coming from?

How is it ok for them to yell at us for calling them a nugga but yet its perfectly fine for them to call themselves that. It makes no sense, and they seem, and are, hypocrytes.

That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.


This is what goes on down here in Florida.

This is what happens where I live.

Because any guy i know or think of who does this, just so happens to be black.

I am not racist, my best friend is black.

So dont give me that Sh!t.
That doesn't mean that it's an inherited trait of black people. He can give you "sh!t" if he wants to.
She was making a claim on how things are where she lives, not the race in general.


Its where I ,meaning ME where I personally live. never said where you live did I?

No I did not.


And no one has answered my question.

Why can blacks refer to themselves as nuggas, but white people get jumped and shot if they say it? If they dont like people calling them that, why do they call themselves that?

Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on December 13, 2006, 07:00:06 pm
Per the Supreme Court decision on the Michigan case, "point system" style weighting systems where being of a certain race automatically qualifies a candidate for additional points are illegal.  Colleges can, however, use race as one of many general factors in whether or not to accept a candidate.

Hard number quotas make me uneasy though.  They don't solve a problem quite as well as going to the root of the problem: putting funding and qualified educators into public schools in poor, traditionally minority, urban areas, as well as as social programs to help people out of school.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: The TattleTale Strangler on December 13, 2006, 07:05:59 pm
Racism. An ugly word. It's also what happened to me at EKU Music Festival. I was walking down a hallway and some black dude sticks his middle finger at me. Well, I gave him a sarcastic laugh. I hate racism. It's stupid. It's also what my mom has. She loves to accuse blacks of everything. Well, I'm not like that. Racism is so stupid. Look at Katara and Sokka in Avatar: The Last Airbender! They are traveling with the avatar! And they're not white! See, we can all get along. Everybody is the same ~ no matter how hard their attitudes are different. We are all created by God, and we are all equal. So, what's the difference between Blacks and Whites? There is no distinct difference. Just like in the Avatar season finale, "the guru" shows Aang that everything is the same - no matter how different they are. We may be "apparently different," but we aren't "physically different." We're all human.

I can't stand Racism. My entire family has it. When something bad happens, they'll blame black people. It's sickening!
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 13, 2006, 07:57:52 pm
Kevin, It is like that here too. Maybe not in Michigan, put most black people down here are like that. We have black neighbors. They however, act like normal civilized people.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on December 13, 2006, 08:26:39 pm
That was probably the most racist post I've ever seen.

I never knew all black people follow the stereotype you so blindly believe in. According to your post, all black people follow the "gangsta" attitude, are stupid, sell drugs, and treat women with disrespect.

Your post is a prime example of how racism is still alive in America.
It's not her fault that the vast majority do fall under those categories.  Look around, what do you see?  They make every single hard-working black human being look bad.  It's just like the trailer park trash makes you and I look bad.

As far as quotas go, what is supposed to happen and what happens are two TOTALLY different things.  The Academy even apologized to the guy for having to let that black guy in.  FACT.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 14, 2006, 04:45:45 am
And no one has answered my question.

Why can blacks refer to themselves as nuggas, but white people get jumped and shot if they say it? If they dont like people calling them that, why do they call themselves that?


because of the context that black people use it in. When a black person calls another black person that, it's referring to a sense of brotherhood. When a white person calls a black person that, it refers to a sense of hate.

Quote from: Liz
As far as quotas go, what is supposed to happen and what happens are two TOTALLY different things.  The Academy even apologized to the guy for having to let that black guy in.  FACT.
and I'm not saying that the academy was right. If two people both had perfect scores, shouldn't they both be accepted?

Quote from: IceFox
She was making a claim on how things are where she lives, not the race in general.
It's still not the truth. I'm sorry, but I can guarantee you that no matter where you are in the world, the black-to-white ratio of crime is the same.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on December 14, 2006, 09:28:27 am
And no one has answered my question.

Why can blacks refer to themselves as nuggas, but white people get jumped and shot if they say it? If they dont like people calling them that, why do they call themselves that?
because of the context that black people use it in. When a black person calls another black person that, it's referring to a sense of brotherhood. When a white person calls a black person that, it refers to a sense of hate.

Quote from: Liz
As far as quotas go, what is supposed to happen and what happens are two TOTALLY different things.  The Academy even apologized to the guy for having to let that black guy in.  FACT.
and I'm not saying that the academy was right. If two people both had perfect scores, shouldn't they both be accepted?

Quote from: IceFox
She was making a claim on how things are where she lives, not the race in general.
It's still not the truth. I'm sorry, but I can guarantee you that no matter where you are in the world, the black-to-white ratio of crime is the same.
Blah, blah, blah, BULL.  Those guys are being rude to each other, just like it's rude to call them a nigga.  When my brother was in the D-Home, it sure as hell wasn't a word of brotherhood.

As far as Annapolis goes, they only accept so many people a year, and a portion of them HAVE to be minorities.  So when it comes down to either a white dude or a black dude, and they still need so many black dudes, they have to take the black man.  It's called Affirmative Action.

If the black to white ratio is the same, why are there more drug dealings, more shootings, and more overall crime in da hood than in a trailer park?

Nobody here is saying that black people on a whole are bad, they are merely calling it as they see it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 14, 2006, 01:05:28 pm
I think cmonkey put it best.

Quote
I believe you are horribly wrong.  Black people do not cause more crimes, poor people cause more crimes, or at least more crimes that they can be arrested for (as in, stealing a car vs. a rich person with fraudulant stock activity).  A significant number of black people are poor and stuck in environments where due to welfare and social inequities, they have no way of fixing thier situation or creating opportunities for thier children to escape it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 14, 2006, 01:21:37 pm
I was mainly talking about the black people around here. Around here, it is the blacks and mexicans committing most of the crime. Don't call me racist. That is how it is down here.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on December 14, 2006, 01:42:42 pm
I was mainly talking about the black people around here. Around here, it is the blacks and mexicans committing most of the crime. Don't call me racist. That is how it is down here.
It's that way in Cincinnati too...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 14, 2006, 01:46:02 pm
And no one has answered my question.

Why can blacks refer to themselves as nuggas, but white people get jumped and shot if they say it? If they dont like people calling them that, why do they call themselves that?
because of the context that black people use it in. When a black person calls another black person that, it's referring to a sense of brotherhood. When a white person calls a black person that, it refers to a sense of hate.

Quote from: Liz
As far as quotas go, what is supposed to happen and what happens are two TOTALLY different things.  The Academy even apologized to the guy for having to let that black guy in.  FACT.
and I'm not saying that the academy was right. If two people both had perfect scores, shouldn't they both be accepted?

Quote from: IceFox
She was making a claim on how things are where she lives, not the race in general.
It's still not the truth. I'm sorry, but I can guarantee you that no matter where you are in the world, the black-to-white ratio of crime is the same.
Blah, blah, blah, BULL.  Those guys are being rude to each other, just like it's rude to call them a nigga.  When my brother was in the D-Home, it sure as hell wasn't a word of brotherhood.

As far as Annapolis goes, they only accept so many people a year, and a portion of them HAVE to be minorities.  So when it comes down to either a white dude or a black dude, and they still need so many black dudes, they have to take the black man.  It's called Affirmative Action.

If the black to white ratio is the same, why are there more drug dealings, more shootings, and more overall crime in da hood than in a trailer park?

Nobody here is saying that black people on a whole are bad, they are merely calling it as they see it.


I agree with you 100% Liz.

Just because of skin color, the word "nigga" doesn't mean a sense of brotherhood.

Now THATS racist.

To black people, its brotherhood? A bad faulty name is considered "brother hood" Where the hell did you get that?



Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 14, 2006, 03:17:59 pm
Quote from: ASE2 link=topic=17989.msg315020#msg315020

"Nigga get your ass over here!"
*WHIP*
*WHIP*
*WHIP*


Do you understand now?

That happened a lot LESS than it is made out to be. The income back then was about 10000-20000 IF YOU WERE RICH. Slaves were ranging from 500-2000+ dollars. They were expensive. They weren't treated as bad as they are made out to be. It would be like buying a Lexus and intentionally totaling it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on December 14, 2006, 03:23:37 pm
Quote from: ASE2 link=topic=17989.msg315020#msg315020
"Nigga get your ass over here!"
*WHIP*
*WHIP*
*WHIP*


Do you understand now?

That happened a lot LESS than it is made out to be. The income back then was about 10000-20000 IF YOU WERE RICH. Slaves were ranging from 500-2000+ dollars. They were expensive. They weren't treated as bad as they are made out to be. It would be like buying a Lexus and intentionally totaling it.
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Still they treated their slaves like dolphin noise.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on December 14, 2006, 03:52:56 pm
Many slaves worked in houses and were treated humainly. Others were treated worse.

But same anology, you wouldn't go buy a new lexus sports car just to go total it.

Slavery is not right, I do not agree with it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IZ on December 14, 2006, 04:00:59 pm
I was mainly talking about the black people around here. Around here, it is the blacks and mexicans committing most of the crime. Don't call me racist. That is how it is down here.
stats?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 14, 2006, 05:51:58 pm
I don't know any statistics about it, but I watch/read the news.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on December 15, 2006, 09:43:27 am
Well, so much for the youth of America being the hope for a race-blind future.

That someone could even suggest that because some house slaves weren't beaten, and that because the merchandise is expensive, slavery wasn't that bad is insane.  It is the forcible imprisonment of a human being based upon a circumstance they have no control over.  The fact that a human was enslaved at all is horrific, without even mentioning whippings, beatings, atrocious living conditions, working 16 hour days of manual labor, having no control over when, where, and how to eat, sleep, breed, and die. 

It absolutely sickens me that so many of you don't bother to read or understand real history.  Read what really happened, not what you think happened because your middle school history teacher mentioned it for a class period or two.  I don't even mean in depth readings like biographies of people like Fredrick Douglass or Hannah Crafts, or academic studies, but just taking a browse around Wikipedia every now and then would be nice.

Anyway, as I said before, crime isn't predispositioned based on the color of a person's skin.  It is based on socioeconomic status.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 15, 2006, 10:43:32 am
Anyway, as I said before, crime isn't predispositioned based on the color of a person's skin.  It is based on socioeconomic status.

You forgot to include idiots into the equation :P
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 15, 2006, 07:09:08 pm
What I meant is that most of the movies they make about Slavery portray it worse thatn it was...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on December 15, 2006, 08:43:34 pm
How do you know? Were you a slave in the 19th century?

People, stop complaining. The N word is way less demeaning when spoken from one black person to another. Even between two good interracial friends, it is seen as a joke. If a stranger called you a jack***, you would be offended, right? Would it be the same if a friend said it? Of course not.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 15, 2006, 08:49:20 pm
I wasn't. Neither were any of you. You guys should watch Gone With the Wind, or read the book. It is actually pretty accurate.

And this is off of my point. My point was that by todays standards, only white people can be racist.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 15, 2006, 08:52:55 pm
I wasn't. Neither were any of you. You guys should watch Gone With the Wind, or read the book. It is actually pretty accurate.

And this is off of my point. My point was that by todays standards, only white people can be racist.

Yep. And those standards were set by what we did for the past...ohhh...200 or so years to the colored man.

Be friendly, turn the other cheek, and maybe racism just might go away. Complaining about NAACP and other stuff like that only puts more fuel on the fire.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 15, 2006, 09:35:15 pm
And slavery only ended ohhhhhh 200 years ago.



I want the black people who act victimized by saying "OMG everything is racist!!1"(I.E, saying White Christmas is a racist term) to get over it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on December 15, 2006, 09:51:02 pm
And slavery only ended ohhhhhh 200 years ago.



I want the black people who act victimized by saying "OMG everything is racist!!1"(I.E, saying White Christmas is a racist term) to get over it.

Slavery ended about 140 years ago, pick up a book sometime kid. And since when is "white christmas" a racist term?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 15, 2006, 09:57:16 pm
Since some crazy black guy said it was.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on December 15, 2006, 10:02:04 pm
Since some crazy black guy said it was.
Just ignore the crazy guy then. The song's about snow on Christmas, nothing racist about it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 15, 2006, 10:03:59 pm
That is the point. But the crazy ones, the ones that think they have to be gangsta, and a lot of other different ones make the rest of the race look bad. There are people who make every race look bad. But these ones do a better job than the Asians do. I am NOT trying to sound racist.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on December 16, 2006, 09:09:29 am
Look what I found in the good ol' Philly Inquirer:

Quote
Two weeks ago, I wrote a column about white racism. What about black racism?, dozens of you wrote me.

How come I didn't mention the inappropriateness of ESPN analyst Michael Irvin's opining that Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo (of Mexican descent) must have had an ancestor who copulated with a black man to account for his superior skills?

Irvin, who is African American, is foolish , but that's hardly the point. I didn't think I had to say this because it's so obvious:

America is a white-majority country. When one group has substantially more power than all others, its biases, prejudices, and mouth filth matter more.

And if whites possess the keys to the White House, the executive suite, the law firm, the construction company - not to mention the gun lockers in the police stations - then what they think about black people has greater weight and consequence than what black people think about them.

Of course, black people can be as prejudiced as whites. I've lived it. On a day I thought would be my last, a group of black guys beat me down on a New York subway train; years later, black demonstrators spit on me and opened my head with rocks. In both cases, my only sin was skin color.

But lots more black people than whites have endured systemic, organized violence in this country. And my ancestors walked off the boats that brought them here unchained.

From when I was a kid, the croaks of racists slimed my ears. Today, neighbors in rural South Jersey take me for a coconspirator, referring to "them people" and identifying certain farm weeds as N-word-heads. In white neighborhoods everywhere, you can hear far worse.

Crime. Unwed mothers. Dope. Black problems, right? When I tell people that the white Appalachian neighborhood in Columbus, Ohio, I once covered had the precise same pathologies, they stare at me dumbly.

It's poverty, not melanin. It's class-based misery. It's watching your kids crawl around without Pampers or hope. It's sucking down Ho Hos and malt liquor because the sugar and the buzz feel better than the boredom and terror of each day.

White working-class people I know erroneously believe that government programs such as affirmative action give African Americans unfair advantages.

If they had a genie's wish, I ask white folks, would they beg for their kids to turn black so they could enjoy all those goodies?

I lived below the poverty line for four years in New York and I still had it better than lots of black people.

It is true that working-class white people live tough American lives.

But store owners don't automatically think they're criminals, and their kids don't have to be warned not to mouth off to cops for fear of getting tortured with a plunger.

Some psychologists of race will go so far as to say that white prejudice is proactive, while black prejudice is reactive. America began with whites thinking of blacks as animals and property. U.S. history then moved to cross burnings.

We've since progressed, but if your people get lynched and shot enough times, you might develop suspicion of all the guys with the ropes and guns.

Today, lots of people are learning to interact. But racism is a hard-to-kill bacterium. How do I know? Many of you readers told me so, with acid e-mails and racist phone messages.

You hate that a white guy is saying this. White people have to say this. Or we're not getting anywhere.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Sb129 on December 16, 2006, 09:27:49 am
I also dislike how black people don't accept other black people if they're republican.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on December 16, 2006, 09:46:29 pm
I also dislike how black people don't accept other black people if they're republican.

Why? I don't accept some white Republicans.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 16, 2006, 10:32:58 pm
Cmonkey, and everyone else who agrees with him,  people won't be "color blind" anytime soon. Ya know why? These Straight up g's down here(Yes, DOWN HERE. Not everywhere Kevin.) make themselves look like idiots. Making the race look bad. Kinda how those hick-rednecks make southerners look bad. Ya know why? Cause they are DUMB. Same thing. And also those snobby yankees that make Northerners look bad. 

In conclusion, my annoyance isn't with the race on a whole, but the dumb people. They are in every race. But if you complain about the black ones, your racist. Blacks can complain about dumb white people and nothing happens.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 16, 2006, 11:05:11 pm
you bring up a good point, but i now label you as 'also dumb' :P

what now??!!/1

EDIT: I mean to say, what do you propose be done about dumb people?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 16, 2006, 11:08:29 pm
A penal colony on mars? :rolleyes:

I don't know what to do about them Except make fun of them. Only if they are in your racial group. ^_^
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Sb129 on December 17, 2006, 10:23:40 am
I also dislike how black people don't accept other black people if they're republican.

Why? I don't accept some white Republicans.
They think they're all weird & what not, yeah I do to with white ones (that whole all religous crud, gays are freakin' demons,etc...).
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on December 18, 2006, 10:40:12 am
Cmonkey, and everyone else who agrees with him,  people won't be "color blind" anytime soon. Ya know why? These Straight up g's down here(Yes, DOWN HERE. Not everywhere Kevin.) make themselves look like idiots. Making the race look bad. Kinda how those hick-rednecks make southerners look bad. Ya know why? Cause they are DUMB. Same thing. And also those snobby yankees that make Northerners look bad. 

In conclusion, my annoyance isn't with the race on a whole, but the dumb people. They are in every race. But if you complain about the black ones, your racist. Blacks can complain about dumb white people and nothing happens.

Thats the whole point of colorblindness.  Associate stupidity with stupidity, not stupidity with race.  The idea is that as long as people associate connotations with race, there will be a race problem, regardless of whether or not other wrongs are redressed.

You're still forgetting that history isn't history.  Because you are too young to have lived through it doesn't mean it doesn't effect the lives of those around  you.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Wormy Lives#33; on December 21, 2006, 10:23:38 pm
I also dislike how black people don't accept other black people if they're republican.

Why? I don't accept some white Republicans.

I don't accept any republicans :P

Racism is just a mystery. There is a Black Entertainment Channel, but I wouldn't really like a white one.

Why is there discrimination still? African Americans aren't slaves anymore. Are the KKK and other racist people hating for culture or skin color or what? I want racism and all memories of it gone forever so we think of ourselves as just people, white or African American. I'm sick of us being counted as a different species altogether.

But if you think being black is hard, try being green. Eh, Kermit?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: carterhawk on December 21, 2006, 11:02:33 pm
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Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on December 22, 2006, 01:20:59 am
He meant in AMERICA.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on December 22, 2006, 05:57:22 am
Why just talk about america?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on January 06, 2007, 04:17:53 pm
Racism is simple a fabrication of society... it will always exist and everyone is racist to a point. I believe the reason that White Heritage month doesn't exist because White people are not minorities (yet) and Hispanic, and Black people have been severely oppressed in the US and many other countries as well. It is a sad fact but Latin and African American people are seen as sub-human by many different countries... and Whites and Asians are supposedly the superior races. It's just a pecking order that was made up by man that will always exist no matter what you do or say. I personally am not a racist... I have dated Filipino, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Black, Italian, Native, Mixed, name it I have probably dated it. lol. Racism is often used as a double standard as well. It is assumed that when you here the word "racist" you think of some White guy wearing a white robe, seig heiling to hitler, and all that, but racists come from all races... in fact, the largest amount of racists are elderly African-American men. Surprised? I was too... also people make too big of a deal about racism... it is not as prevelant as it once was... what about homophobia? That is a major problem. We are not even allowed to get married... at least Whites, Blacks, and Asians can marry each other. Homosexuals are the true oppressed minority today... we have it far worse off then any Black, Latin, or White person has it.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Lil Loco on January 09, 2007, 11:01:00 am
The qualified student is the one who should get into the college he or she wants.  The qualified worker is the one who should get the job.  Black people who pull the race-card for everything are dumbasses, perpetuate racism, and ruin it for black people who are actually productive members of society and know that the world isn't out to get them.  White people who are genuinely racist suck ass.  Way too many whites that aren't racist get accused of it way too often.  Slavery happened, it sucked, but your white neighbor next door isn't the one responsible for it so leave him the hell alone.  Brown people that treat other races like crap need a swift kick in the crotch.  I'm proud to be Puerto-Rican but I see way too many latinos, even a couple in my extended family that act like whites, blacks, and other races aren't worth piss and that drives me crazy.  No one race does not have racism and people need to realize that.  There's awesome people of every color and there's jackasses of every color.

Therefore, I love and hate every race equally, including my own.  :D

Have a nice day.  FTW.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on January 09, 2007, 12:46:16 pm
The qualified student is the one who should get into the college he or she wants.  The qualified worker is the one who should get the job.  Black people who pull the race-card for everything are dumbasses, perpetuate racism, and ruin it for black people who are actually productive members of society and know that the world isn't out to get them.  White people who are genuinely racist suck ass.  Way too many whites that aren't racist get accused of it way too often.  Slavery happened, it sucked, but your white neighbor next door isn't the one responsible for it so leave him the hell alone.  Brown people that treat other races like crap need a swift kick in the crotch.  I'm proud to be Puerto-Rican but I see way too many latinos, even a couple in my extended family that act like whites, blacks, and other races aren't worth piss and that drives me crazy.  No one race does not have racism and people need to realize that.  There's awesome people of every color and there's jackasses of every color.

Therefore, I love and hate every race equally, including my own.  :D

Have a nice day.  FTW.
As usual, great post Jeremy... I couldn't have said it better myself...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Scilla on January 09, 2007, 09:52:25 pm
Don't believe me in saying white people are discrimenated? look at this list.
Black History Month
NAACP
Black Women can get whatever job they want.
Black people can say the word "nigga." If a white person says, all hell breaks loose.
Hispanic heritage Month


I didn't read the entire topic so kill me if I say something someone else has already said.

But don't you think we earned all of that? I mean the minorities have suffered for a long time.
Black History Month is something we earned, I think.
And its about being proud of who you are and not feeling different because you are black or hispanic.
So I'm sorry I really don't understand what youre meaning by saying THAT is racism. Of course the minorities would feel threatened with a "White People Month" or whatever you said. They've overpowered them before whats stopping them from doing it again? That's how I see it. I know no one is going to agree with me but whatever.

And as far as the "dolphin noise" thing goes, it's a term that shouldn't be used by ANYONE.  But of course if someone called me a dolphin noise (a white person) I am going to get more offended. A black person, I would honestly think they are ignorant and want to be cool. Understand? I dunno. I just don't see how its racist to white people. Its just how the world goes.

(Sorry if none of that made sense since I really was just venting)
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: VulturEMaN on January 10, 2007, 10:37:40 am
Don't believe me in saying white people are discrimenated? look at this list.
Black History Month
NAACP
Black Women can get whatever job they want.
Black people can say the word "nigga." If a white person says, all hell breaks loose.
Hispanic heritage Month


I didn't read the entire topic so kill me if I say something someone else has already said.

But don't you think we earned all of that? I mean the minorities have suffered for a long time.
Black History Month is something we earned, I think.
And its about being proud of who you are and not feeling different because you are black or hispanic.
So I'm sorry I really don't understand what youre meaning by saying THAT is racism. Of course the minorities would feel threatened with a "White People Month" or whatever you said. They've overpowered them before whats stopping them from doing it again? That's how I see it. I know no one is going to agree with me but whatever.

And as far as the "dolphin noise" thing goes, it's a term that shouldn't be used by ANYONE.  But of course if someone called me a dolphin noise (a white person) I am going to get more offended. A black person, I would honestly think they are ignorant and want to be cool. Understand? I dunno. I just don't see how its racist to white people. Its just how the world goes.

(Sorry if none of that made sense since I really was just venting)

makes sense to me....except u forgot to add the word sense into that last sentence, so I did it for u :P
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on January 10, 2007, 01:21:37 pm
I beleive quota's should be eliminated, too many times a minority get's in just because they're a minority. Company's should have to hire people based on their qualifactions, not one's race, gender, or disability. Yes slavery happened, but a majority of white people had nothing to do with slavery, and many were against it. In fact slave owner's where a minority in the U.S., and they where all in the south.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Patback399 on January 10, 2007, 01:42:28 pm
Everybody complains about minorities getting into colleges because of their race, but I hardly hear any of you complaining about legacies. Getting into a university just because a relative went there is not fair at all.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Lil Loco on January 10, 2007, 02:20:27 pm
No one said that was right either.  That's not what's being discussed though.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2007, 02:51:11 pm
I beleive quota's should be eliminated, too many times a minority get's in just because they're a minority. Company's should have to hire people based on their qualifactions, not one's race, gender, or disability. Yes slavery happened, but a majority of white people had nothing to do with slavery, and many were against it. In fact slave owner's where a minority in the U.S., and they where all in the south.

Which explains why northerners had slaves, right?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on January 10, 2007, 06:32:17 pm
Actually many Jewish people and Free Blacks owned slaves, and the slaves were old out by their own tribeleaders for wealth... funny huh?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on January 10, 2007, 08:41:37 pm
I know. Oh the Irony, the NORTH started slavery in America.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Elizabeth Rose on January 10, 2007, 09:48:51 pm
I beleive quota's should be eliminated, too many times a minority get's in just because they're a minority. Company's should have to hire people based on their qualifactions, not one's race, gender, or disability. Yes slavery happened, but a majority of white people had nothing to do with slavery, and many were against it. In fact slave owner's where a minority in the U.S., and they where all in the south.
Ok, I have been wanting to stay out of this thread but I must say that THE NORTH HAD SLAVE STATES TOO. THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on January 11, 2007, 08:51:42 am
I beleive quota's should be eliminated, too many times a minority get's in just because they're a minority. Company's should have to hire people based on their qualifactions, not one's race, gender, or disability. Yes slavery happened, but a majority of white people had nothing to do with slavery, and many were against it. In fact slave owner's where a minority in the U.S., and they where all in the south.
Ok, I have been wanting to stay out of this thread but I must say that THE NORTH HAD SLAVE STATES TOO. THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY.
Virginia, even New York state, the yankee state where I was born had a population of slaves.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on January 11, 2007, 10:50:02 am
I know. Oh the Irony, the NORTH started slavery in America.
The British started slavery in America.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on January 11, 2007, 04:59:48 pm
The first slaves in what would become the United States were brought to Jamestown tobacco plantations in the early 1600's, might be 1607, but I don't feel like googling it.

Anyway, anyone who has even the slightest doubt about whether the Civil War was about slavery needs a reality check.  It wasn't about state rights, it was about slavery.  The Confederacy thought Lincoln would abolish slavery, so they rebelled.  In fact, its Vice President said "Its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery . . . is his natural and normal condition."

To the north, however, it was about reuniting the country.  Ending slavery became inevitable only as the war progressed, hence the 4(?) slave states that remained with the north.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Rocko on January 11, 2007, 09:06:57 pm
The first slaves in what would become the United States were brought to Jamestown tobacco plantations in the early 1600's, might be 1607, but I don't feel like googling it.

Anyway, anyone who has even the slightest doubt about whether the Civil War was about slavery needs a reality check.  It wasn't about state rights, it was about slavery.  The Confederacy thought Lincoln would abolish slavery, so they rebelled.  In fact, its Vice President said "Its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery . . . is his natural and normal condition."

To the north, however, it was about reuniting the country.  Ending slavery became inevitable only as the war progressed, hence the 4(?) slave states that remained with the north.
There where many cause's of the civil war. It wasn't just caused by slavery, it wasn't just caused by State Rights.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: carterhawk on January 11, 2007, 09:15:10 pm
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Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Lil Loco on January 11, 2007, 09:49:49 pm
Black History Month is wrong...People from every race have made contributions and deserve acknowledgement.  Celebrate every race or none at all.  Call me a racist, I really dont care.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on January 11, 2007, 10:43:47 pm
Ill pass this summary of the thread: Anyone saying black history month is wrong or unfair is racist.
So I guess i'm racist even though most of my family (including my father) is black?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: David on January 12, 2007, 03:37:35 am
I am getting sick of the racism in thei country. Racism towards WHITE people. Don't believe me in saying white people are discrimenated? look at this list.
Black History Month
NAACP
Black Women can get whatever job they want.
Black people can say the word "nigga." If a white person says, all hell breaks loose.
Hispanic heritage Month

I Pointed these out cause they are the most common.

Have you noticed, If we made National Acciation for the Advancement of White People, We would be racist? And if we made White aprecciation month, that too would be racist? It is pathetic.

Wow, I never thought of that, yeah, there's a black person in my school who calls people ni***rs, and if we call him that, we get detention (I would never call a black person that).
Also, I was on Habbo the other day, and I saw a person going around saying "U kno what i bet your white" and later she said "your a white aka a black wannabe"
If these people had to suffer for years for racism, they should at least think that we are all equal, and tha the blacks are not superior, but neither are the whites.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: DiE HaRrD PuNk on January 13, 2007, 02:29:46 pm
Black History Month is wrong...People from every race have made contributions and deserve acknowledgement.  Celebrate every race or none at all.  Call me a racist, I really dont care.

OMFG. We actually agree on something? Has the world come to an end?
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on January 13, 2007, 02:33:58 pm
Ill pass this summary of the thread: Anyone saying black history month is wrong or unfair is racist.


Ok using your logic the guy that invented Kwanzaa was racist.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Lil Loco on January 13, 2007, 02:38:39 pm
Black History Month is wrong...People from every race have made contributions and deserve acknowledgement.  Celebrate every race or none at all.  Call me a racist, I really dont care.

OMFG. We actually agree on something? Has the world come to an end?

O_o

We've agreed on plenty of stuff before...Just not on certain political issues.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Dragon Of Grief on January 13, 2007, 02:49:07 pm
I personally, find nothing wrong in taking pride in your heritage... I am Swedish, and I am proud as hell of it... but people's pride tends to overinflate and turn into full blown vanity... I also am a proud homosexual. But I don't parade it around in front of people. This is why Gay Pride Parades disgust me... yeah, I am gay but I am not gonna go out and parade around showing off because of it. Same goes for me being Swedish. I am not going to galavant around to the entire world that I am proud to be Swedish. In conclusion it is OK to be proud of who you are, just not TOO proud, because as we all know, pride is a very bad thing... it is one of the seven deadly sins, and wether you are religious or not pride is very destructive to yourself and everyone around you, and then you cause people to become very envious of you. It all ends up bad in the end...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on January 18, 2007, 03:05:12 pm
I am guessing ASE left. He never replied wo what I said.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: IceFox on January 18, 2007, 03:53:29 pm
I am guessing ASE left. He never replied wo what I said.

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I doubt he left...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: Daniel on January 18, 2007, 04:36:06 pm
Left the thread...
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: cmonkey on January 18, 2007, 08:34:52 pm
Ill pass this summary of the thread: Anyone saying black history month is wrong or unfair is racist.


Ok using your logic the guy that invented Kwanzaa was racist.
The guy that invented Kwanzaa was racist.  If I'm not mistaken, he was one of the leaders of the USO, which was established almost solely (as opposed to the Black Panthers) to achieve black independence through warfare and violence.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: David on January 19, 2007, 03:29:07 am
I personally, find nothing wrong in taking pride in your heritage... I am Swedish, and I am proud as hell of it... but people's pride tends to overinflate and turn into full blown vanity... I also am a proud homosexual. But I don't parade it around in front of people. This is why Gay Pride Parades disgust me... yeah, I am gay but I am not gonna go out and parade around showing off because of it. Same goes for me being Swedish. I am not going to galavant around to the entire world that I am proud to be Swedish. In conclusion it is OK to be proud of who you are, just not TOO proud, because as we all know, pride is a very bad thing... it is one of the seven deadly sins, and wether you are religious or not pride is very destructive to yourself and everyone around you, and then you cause people to become very envious of you. It all ends up bad in the end...

*Claps* Good for you, I'm Irish, but I don't go around saying, I'M IRISH! OUTTA MY WAY! I'm also a catholic, but I don't say that Catholics are better then Protestants or anything, and, even though I'm not gay, good for you for staying true to your beliefs, overblown pride is a BAAAAD  thing.
Title: Re: Racism.
Post by: carterhawk on January 24, 2007, 11:41:45 pm
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