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Off Topic => Everything Else => Debate Den => Topic started by: King Neptune on April 16, 2007, 04:59:55 pm
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I am glued to CNN watching this. Is anybody else watching? What are your thoughts on the subject? I'll try to keep this topic up to date with upcoming info. So right now they think they have an ID on the shooter but are not releasing the info yet.
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I was reading around this and I believe the death count is 33. My friend's brother is over there too...
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The guy left a message on 4chan too :O
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Gun control, gun control, GUN CONTROL. I can't say it enough times... this is such a sad tragedy and my heart goes out to all effected. But we need to control guns better.
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Yep! Make guns illegal, so people will get shot at and not be able to defend themselves!!!!
Bleh. They should, if they don't, check peoples records before selling them a gun.
BUT, outlawing guns is dumbest idea since Jalapeņo Ice Cream.
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I am not saying ban guns completely, athat would be stupid. But we need to make it harder for psychos like this guy to get his hands on guns.
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I am not saying ban guns completely, athat would be stupid. But we need to make it harder for psychos like this guy to get his hands on guns.
There was no way for the gun dealer to know if the guy was a psycho.
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Yep! Make guns illegal, so people will get shot at and not be able to defend themselves!!!!
And, how did the person who shot the person who wasn't allowed to acquire a gun get his gun?
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How do people get illegal drugs?
Same answer.
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How do people get illegal drugs?
Same answer.
But if one person stole a gun can't the other?
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I am not saying ban guns completely, athat would be stupid. But we need to make it harder for psychos like this guy to get his hands on guns.
There was no way for the gun dealer to know if the guy was a psycho.
Then maybe you should have a psychiatric evaluation before you buy a gun.
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I'll agree with that much.
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If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.
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If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.
Yes. And, plus, not even hunters will be allowed to have guns. I guess maybe all gun stores should have security in them.
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How do people get illegal drugs?
Same answer.
But if one person stole a gun can't the other?
I want to be the first one to go "What the dolphin noise?" Your logic just gets more and more abstract. You try to sound waaaay out there. Being abstract doesn't make you look smarter or more mature tbh.
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Let's burn all of our guns and carry around clubs
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How do people get illegal drugs?
Same answer.
But if one person stole a gun can't the other?
Only if need arose to actually have a gun in everyday life to defend yourself would we start stealing to obtain guns to protect ourselves.
The reason why people still go after drugs when they aren't a daily essential is because of the addiction to them. To those people, they are an essentiality.
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Guns shouldln't be completely outlawed, beacuse out laws are still just going to get there hands on the through illegal methods. If outlaws have guns and we don't, whos gunna fight them off? The cops? Yeah, probally, but what some one breaks in. The cops won't show for about another 30 minutes after you call, and that could be a life or death situation. You shouldn't be able to but a working gun under the age of 21, or some age. Online it said gun buying security in Virginna wasn't very high- correct me if I'm worng, but all the kid needed to do was answer a survey and show the a lincence and stuff. I didn't think he even had to take a course on safety... Kids of course, still could get there paws on guns from there parents, but its a completely different story when they buy the gun...
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I believe guns shouldn't be completely banned. I believe guns are useful, not for defending yourselves or attacking dangerous criminals (the police can do that), but in case a coup d'etat arises.
As my favorite politician once said: "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
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I believe guns shouldn't be completely banned. I believe guns are useful, not for defending yourselves or attacking dangerous criminals (the police can do that), but in case a coup d'etat arises.
As my favorite politician once said: "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Ermmm...yeah.
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lawl nice use of [b]
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Yeah we had a lock down practice drill at school today.pretty scary seeing what we might have to go through if that ever happened at my school.
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I believe guns shouldn't be completely banned. I believe guns are useful, not for defending yourselves or attacking dangerous criminals (the police can do that), but in case a coup d'etat arises.
As my favorite politician once said: "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Ermmm...yeah.
Sometimes my mouth is so full with parts from other people, that I don't know what comes out.
What I really mean is that people really need to stop relying on violence to solve problems. Guns should be hard to obtain, but still be obtainable, in the case that your own government turns on you. No guns off the internet, no guns in department and wholesale stores, and certainly not a free gun for a bank account.
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That's fine, people shouldn't have easy access to guns, but responsible citizens who are psychologically sound should be well within their rights to own a gun for their own protection, be it from someone who is threatening their life or their own government.
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I agree, but I believe we should change the mindset of Americans.
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Good luck with that one.
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Good luck with that one.
Heh, yeah.
We need a better education system.
All major issues are interconnected.
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With this whole shooting, I'm seeing a BUNCH of copycats everywhere. In my state 5 or 6 schools have already gotten threats and such. Another thing on my mind with this, is why are they showing the video of him "explaining" himself on the news? It's giving him what he wanted. Infamy. It's absolutley disgusting to show that to people. Is nothing sacred anymore? We have to share everything with the world, and thats not how it should be. anyway. This guy was deeply disturbed. I don't think we should be focusing on gun controls right now.. just remembering all who died that day. It's pathetic that as a country, with this whole tradgedy we are using it to get eachothers points accross on completley other subjects, such as video games, gun laws, telivision, etc. The way this man wrote.. acted.. it shoudln't have been ignored. It really goes to show the world that we have to pay attention, say "hello" to the kid in your gemoetry class that is extra quiet, gets picked on, has a tough time.. whatever be the case. Be human.
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With this whole shooting, I'm seeing a BUNCH of copycats everywhere. In my state 5 or 6 schools have already gotten threats and such. Another thing on my mind with this, is why are they showing the video of him "explaining" himself on the news? It's giving him what he wanted. Infamy. It's absolutley disgusting to show that to people. Is nothing sacred anymore? We have to share everything with the world, and thats not how it should be. anyway. This guy was deeply disturbed. I don't think we should be focusing on gun controls right now.. just remembering all who died that day. It's pathetic that as a country, with this whole tradgedy we are using it to get eachothers points accross on completley other subjects, such as video games, gun laws, telivision, etc. The way this man wrote.. acted.. it shoudln't have been ignored. It really goes to show the world that we have to pay attention, say "hello" to the kid in your gemoetry class that is extra quiet, gets picked on, has a tough time.. whatever be the case. Be human.
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It's getting harder everyday.
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
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With this whole shooting, I'm seeing a BUNCH of copycats everywhere. In my state 5 or 6 schools have already gotten threats and such. Another thing on my mind with this, is why are they showing the video of him "explaining" himself on the news? It's giving him what he wanted. Infamy. It's absolutley disgusting to show that to people. Is nothing sacred anymore? We have to share everything with the world, and thats not how it should be. anyway. This guy was deeply disturbed. I don't think we should be focusing on gun controls right now.. just remembering all who died that day. It's pathetic that as a country, with this whole tradgedy we are using it to get eachothers points accross on completley other subjects, such as video games, gun laws, telivision, etc. The way this man wrote.. acted.. it shoudln't have been ignored. It really goes to show the world that we have to pay attention, say "hello" to the kid in your gemoetry class that is extra quiet, gets picked on, has a tough time.. whatever be the case. Be human.
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I'm one of those people... ;-;
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With this whole shooting, I'm seeing a BUNCH of copycats everywhere. In my state 5 or 6 schools have already gotten threats and such. Another thing on my mind with this, is why are they showing the video of him "explaining" himself on the news? It's giving him what he wanted. Infamy. It's absolutley disgusting to show that to people. Is nothing sacred anymore? We have to share everything with the world, and thats not how it should be. anyway. This guy was deeply disturbed. I don't think we should be focusing on gun controls right now.. just remembering all who died that day. It's pathetic that as a country, with this whole tradgedy we are using it to get eachothers points accross on completley other subjects, such as video games, gun laws, telivision, etc. The way this man wrote.. acted.. it shoudln't have been ignored. It really goes to show the world that we have to pay attention, say "hello" to the kid in your gemoetry class that is extra quiet, gets picked on, has a tough time.. whatever be the case. Be human.
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I'm one of those people... ;-;
hello!!
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
It's school, they've always brainwashed students.
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
Why do we only learn about Gandhi and not Reginald Dyer? Why do they teach us Hitler was a bad person? What if I believed Hitler had good ideas?
Because when a gun is pointed at your head, are you pro-violence or anti-violence?
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
Guns are NEVER good. They can be used to protect yourselves, but that doesn't make them a good thing. I wish there were ways to avoid gun use, but it doesn't make them good.
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^^^ I could get involved in this fight, but I just don't feel like it.
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
Guns are NEVER good. They can be used to protect yourselves, but that doesn't make them a good thing. I wish there were ways to avoid gun use, but it doesn't make them good.
Defense.
Sport.
Hunting for food.
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What I hate is this. Sometimes during the year, when you go to the mall, There are pictures that Elementary School kids drew hanging on the handrails. Basically, they say guns are evil no matter what. WHY are they brainwashing kids? That isn't right, in my opinion. They should be encouraged to form their own opinion, not beleive what they are told without questioniong...
Guns are NEVER good. They can be used to protect yourselves, but that doesn't make them a good thing. I wish there were ways to avoid gun use, but it doesn't make them good.
Defense.
Sport.
Hunting for food.
Right, but sometimes the bad outweighs the good.
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The gun is a tool. Just like any other tool, it can be devastating when in the wrong hands. Doesn't mean its always a bad thing.
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
And how is my state "#!@%ed up"?
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I am pretty sure he is joshing you.
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
And how is my state "#!@%ed up"?
How isn't cali fked up?
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Our economy by itself is larger than a good number of countries in the world. (13% of America's overall GDP)
We set the bar for emissions standards in vehicles and are the strictest state in enforcing them.
We have over a dozen well-known and accomplished universities.
We are one of the most culturally diverse states in the United States.
Our agricultural industry is the largest in the country, unless I'm wrong.
Education receives almost half of our state's overall income.
We make alotta your movies. :P
Our cows pwn Wisconsin's cows. :P
The only real thing I dont like about my state is cost of housing.
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
And how is my state "#!@%ed up"?
How isn't cali fked up?
Damn can't beat that one.
And I am completly against anyone who says guns kill people. GUNS DON'T! Just because it can and has been used to kill people does NOT meanit should be outlawed. Pencils can kill people to, what about hammers, flashlights, keyboards, guitars, letter openers, staplers, nailguns, and
this dude
:ph34r:
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
And how is my state "#!@%ed up"?
How isn't cali fked up?
Damn can't beat that one.
And I am completly against anyone who says guns kill people. GUNS DON'T! Just because it can and has been used to kill people does NOT meanit should be outlawed. Pencils can kill people to, what about hammers, flashlights, keyboards, guitars, letter openers, staplers, nailguns, and
this dude
:ph34r:
If by person you mean cheaply made Sony product, then yeah :p
No one but you will get that :p
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in my mind, you can tell kids that guns are good for defense, sport, and hunting for food only in California and Montana. Cause Cali is just #!@%ed up and Montana preschoolers learn early how to cockaimandbang.
And how is my state "#!@%ed up"?
How isn't cali fked up?
Damn can't beat that one.
I'm pretty sure I beat that one.
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cali is still the most messed up place in the whole USA
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cali is still the most messed up place in the whole USA
Have you been to New Jersey?
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I mean law-wise.
I've been everywhere. 40/50 states :)
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I mean law-wise.
I've been everywhere. 40/50 states :)
Oh please do elaborate on what makes us so much worse than some of the other states.
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Ther Problem With Cali Is That I Live In It
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Well for starters.. the governor..
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I was surprised Schwarzenegger was able to get elected in such a liberal state. He must be doing a good job.
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I mean law-wise.
I've been everywhere. 40/50 states :)
Oh please do elaborate on what makes us so much worse than some of the other states.
Hate to break it to ya Jeremy... But Cali has a lot of nutbags. And stupid laws.
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I tried getting a list together, but lost it. But there was about 40-50 links to stuff that would make you cringe.
cali is fked
but yea, daniel said it best.
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I'm not ignorant of my state laws, Danny. There are other states with stupid laws and stupid people too. The fact of the matter is, if you wanna say Cali is fked up, that's your guys's opinion and yur entitled to it. You don't have to live here. I do and, despite the fact that is has things that are wrong with it (as many other states do), it's still a great state. Don't like it?...Sad story.
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I don't think his comment was meant as a personal attack on you or the people who live there, just kind of a generalization.
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I know it wasn't a personal attack, I just disagree with the statement that California is the most effed up state in America.
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ok.
but which state do you think is the most effed up then? :mellow:
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It depends on how you're looking at it. If you're talking about corruption, Mississippi has been documented as being the most corrupt state for its size. As far as laws go, you're gonna find stupid laws aren't just in California. In Louisiana, a cop can't pull you over just cuz yur not wearing a seatbelt...Some things are taxed, while others aren't...You can drive with open alcohol as long as yur not drinking it. Stupid laws abound throughout the states. Oh if you've ever been in a deul, you can't be governor of Pennsylvania. :P I'm not gonna go pointing fingers saying such and such a state is the worst state. There are definitely some states that are worse than others, but no state is perfect...far from it. Each state has corruption, each state has crazy fools. I'm fully aware of how crazy some people in my state are, especially being a conservative living in a liberal state. :P Oh well...I live in the most conservative county in California, so I'm good.
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You can't be elected to public office in some states if you don't believe in a supreme being. Now, that's just ridiculous.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
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You can't be elected to public office in some states if you don't believe in a supreme being. Now, that's just ridiculous.
They wouldn't get the vote anyway.
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I think American needs to be religionless... well, not religionless. Just without an official religion since we are such a diverse country. Politics should become seperate from the hold of the Church. I think it is ludicruous that one would assume that someone who is not Christian would make a bad leader.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
Do you honestly think that people would believe that? Not even I do.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
Do you honestly think that people would believe that? Not even I do.
I know people will always be affected by religion, but it really should have little (I won't say "nothing" because part of religion is morality.) affect on what's done in office.
And it's not like atheists are going to make reading of Charles Darwin books mandatory.
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Any person with faith-based morals is going to be affected by them when making ethical decisions...That's just a fact.
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Any person with faith-based morals is going to be affected by them when making ethical decisions...That's just a fact.
I can understand that completely, they should.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
I guess the act of voting is a "thoughtcrime".
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
I guess the act of voting is a "thoughtcrime".
If it were illegal, sure.
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How? If America is a majority Christian country, they want Christian leaders. It makes sense.
No, it doesn't make sense at all. You are restricting someone to be elected, not because of their race, sex or sexual orientation, but what they think. That's called thoughtcrime.
Besides, a person's religion should not affect what they do in office.
k guys you're turning this into America when the original discussion was about how some states don't allow it...
As far as states go, alot of states were formed under religious men who wanted the ideals of that particular religion to permeate throughout their newly formed state. NOT to force another religion onto someone, but to force some sort of ideal set onto atleast it's leaders. Because, believe it or not, most founders thought the common American to be dumb as rocks (and most of us still are). They couldn't look ahead into the future to our current voting system. They just wanted someone with some decent ideals up there in office.
This may change in the future, but don't count on it happening soon.
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See, I look at it this way... Christians make up about 79% of the population... but compare it to 16 years ago when they made up 88% of the population, with Catholics representing the majority in about 25% of the US population. This drop in Christianity suggests possibly these two things.
- People are dropping from the Christian religion.
- People of different religions are outgrowing Christianity.
I am going to say it is a mixture of the two...
The number of Atheists grew from 8.4% in 1990 to nearly 15% in 2001. This is a 6.6% jump in the Atheistic populace.
However, a growth rate of 1.7% has grown for all other religion while Christianity has fallen down by 8.5%.
You be the judge... but with the falling rate of Christians in the US and the growth of other US religion suggests that having a Christian nation with Christian policies just won't cut it anymore. That was all fine and dandy 50 years ago when the Christian population was nearly 100% but times are changing. And we need to change to. This is why I believe we can no longer declare the US as a Christian nation. The US should not have an official religion. It could actually be considered almost dangerous. If the growing trends continue as they are in another 40 or 50 years Christians will account for less then half of the US population. And then when the majority is Non-Christian it would be impossible for the US to stay a "theocracy" and we would have no choice but to declare the US as religion free. And by religion free I don't mean banning religion. That would be a violation of human rights. I mean recognizing the US as a diverse country... such a diverse country that we have no official religion. This shows that we respect all religion equally and will make us look good. And who knows. Maybe the rest of the world will follow the example =)
BTW if anyone wants a source for where I got my info... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Religious_affiliation
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I have no denomination...I'm just Christian. No title slapped on there. No man-made doctrine that detracts from what being a Christian should be about. Christians of no denomination have been growing in number, as even your little wikipedia will tell you.
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Yes, but the total Christian population is still dropping... almost a 10% drop in about 16 - 17 years. Non-denominational Christians are growing... among the Christian populace. But Christianity is still dropping.
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I don't want to say anything bad about anyone who follows a denominational faction of Christianity, cuz I've known some awesome people from different denominations, but I think then when some of these factions put so much focus on enforcing their doctrines, they lose focus on Christ and the foundation of what Christianity is. People that aren't focusing on Christ probably aren't going to be living they way a Christian should, and most will end up walking away.
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I don't want to say anything bad about anyone who follows a denominational faction of Christianity, cuz I've known some awesome people from different denominations, but I think then when some of these factions put so much focus on enforcing their doctrines, they lose focus on Christ and the foundation of what Christianity is. People that aren't focusing on Christ probably aren't going to be living they way a Christian should, and most will end up walking away.
Word!
*edit* &^(*^ This is Liz. Daniel is dumb and leaves his account logged on.
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I don't want to say anything bad about anyone who follows a denominational faction of Christianity, cuz I've known some awesome people from different denominations, but I think then when some of these factions put so much focus on enforcing their doctrines, they lose focus on Christ and the foundation of what Christianity is. People that aren't focusing on Christ probably aren't going to be living they way a Christian should, and most will end up walking away.
I've struggled with god, and religion for awhile. I believe in god, but I don't like what man has turned religion into. Most denominations, especially the evangelicals ones are extremely hypocritical. The way I see it Jesus loved everyone, not just some narrow minded small group like some people believe.
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Here is the way I look at it... if God loved everyone why is there a hell?
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There can be no wickedness in heaven. That is what separates people from God. We, on our own, are wicked. Everyone. "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." -Romans 3:23. We all have sinned and deserve eternal separation from Him because of it. God is a righteous God, and because of this, He must judge sin. But God loved us so much that he wanted to give us the means through with we could be with Him. Through His son, we are able to accept or reject God's gift of eternal life. He gave us the free will to choose whether we embrace Him or turn away from Him. God wants everyone to accept this gift, but He can't make that choice for people...Only they can. God doesn't send anyone to hell, as He's given people the means to avoid it. A person's ultimate fate is of their choosing...Not His.
If you committed a crime and the judge offered you a "get outta jail free" pass before your trial and you turned it down...Would it make sense to complain that there should be no jail and that the judge was uncaring? Did he not offer you that way out before your judgement?
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I personally don't believe in a place called hell. Hell is an emotion of ultimate sadness. It's kind of how people who give stuff to charity during Christmas have "Christmas spirit". If you are truly joyful because of good acts, you are in heaven already.
I find it strange to believe God, an all-loving deity, would punish anyone for eternity.
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I personally don't believe in a place called hell. Hell is an emotion of ultimate sadness. It's kind of how people who give stuff to charity during Christmas have "Christmas spirit". If you are truly joyful because of good acts, you are in heaven already.
I find it strange to believe God, an all-loving deity, would punish anyone for eternity.
They bring it on themselves for the life they live. I believe god only saves it for murderers, rapists, and what not.
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That is why I despise Christianity... so much of it just doesn't make sense to me. I mean, think of it. Why would one be eternally punished for something he did in just a span of 70 years or so? That's like your teenage daughter say, smokes pot and you punish them forever for it. You make her stay in her room for the rest of her life.
I don't believe in hell. I do believe in afterlife though however. There has got to be something better than this. Better than Earth. And actually, my Mom has a philosophy that I could agree with... we are already in hell. And after our time here is exhausted God gives us another chance.
Personally I believe in reincarnation. It makes the most sense I think out of any other possibility.
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We are judged because our souls are darkened with sin and we are impure. If God didn't judge us for our transgressions, He would not be righteous...He would not be just. Those who accept God's gift are still not worthy to be forgiven. We're forgiven and saved through grace and nothing more. There is no "holy" person. Being a Christian makes me no better than anyone else. I'm called to live my life for Christ and I accept this. I accept being hated by those who hate my faith. I don't expect non-Christians to understand it. But I refuse to meet hate with hate, no matter who it is.
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What? I don't hate Christians... well, I don't particularly care fore the "Hellfire Preacher" Christians or the Neo-cons, but I don't hate Christians. My Mom and Stepdad are Christians. My sis and I happen to not be religious.
I believe in the elements of nature... because nature is out there. You can see it, touch it, feel it, hear it, and even taste it if you so choose. I honestly think nature controls everything. It's what makes the most sense to me.
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But, What controls nature?
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Nature controls nature... and if you're suggesting that everything is controlled by something, that would create an endless and infinite number of creators and "Gods". Nature is real. Physical. It's what keeps the Earth alive and beautiful.
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notice no one is talking about the VAtech thing no more. it's like everyone forgot about it. why does no1 care no more i dont here about it on the news, no wher
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notice no one is talking about the VAtech thing no more. it's like everyone forgot about it. why does no1 care no more i dont here about it on the news, no wher
There's nothing more to report.
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Gun control, gun control, GUN CONTROL. I can't say it enough times... this is such a sad tragedy and my heart goes out to all effected. But we need to control guns better.
gun control is stupid
is it the governments fault for selling him a gun?
if you were fat would it be the governmentsf ault for not putting you on a diet?
all he used was a pistol if i'm correct if they had an on campus cop the death toll would have been - at least 20.
besides if there is more gun control he still would have done it - with a less efficient weapon!
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Gun control, gun control, GUN CONTROL. I can't say it enough times... this is such a sad tragedy and my heart goes out to all effected. But we need to control guns better.
gun control is stupid
is it the governments fault for selling him a gun?
if you were fat would it be the governmentsf ault for not putting you on a diet?
all he used was a pistol if i'm correct if they had an on campus cop the death toll would have been - at least 20.
besides if there is more gun control he still would have done it - with a less efficient weapon!
Or he would of bought a gun out of some guys van.