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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2007, 09:31:53 pm »
ill go for the 4000+ and im probably gonna stick with the kingston so dont waste your time looking.
I am going with the bfg because its cheaper and has nforce 590. Ill probably get a 65W for the 4000+.  Ill put my final list of parts up tomorrow.
After I buy these stuff, Ill buy 1 more kingston 1gb memory and another vid. card but that will be later this year.

EDIT:

So heres an updated list of the parts that I want and have picked out.

Newegg.com - BFG Tech BFGRANF590S ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813189002

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144415

Newegg.com - APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-CRUISER-BK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144151

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R Burner, LightScribe Technology, IDE, Model SH-S182M/BEBN - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151136

Newegg.com - XFX GeForce 7600GT PVT73GUGD3 Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150182

Newegg.com - Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820134216

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ 2.1GHz Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103774

Im still deciding on what psu I should get.
Though Im probably gonna get one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817203002

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709004

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171013
unless you suggest another one.


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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2007, 08:38:17 am »
I suggest this one...i completely forgot about it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151141

I bought it for a friend's system and it is godly. It works fine, and is very quiet. It also has every feature but the kitchen sink.

You keep on switching back to the IDE model of the dvd burner....believe me, you'll be much better off with the sata one I keep posting...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151141
IDE cables always look nasty inside a windowed case...always....and up until a few months ago there wasn't a way to get around that...but now there is...and you should take advantage of it :)

As for ram, 2 better buys than the kingston would be the following (only because they have heatsinks on them, which helps alot):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820161675

I'll say it again...that board is a hunk of junk. It looks the exact same as the Foxconn board because....wait for it...it's manufactured by Foxconn. Go read the Foxconn 590 reviews that they haven't had the time to delete yet (there was 7 last night that bashed the board to all hell).

You'd be 4000% better off with either of the following boards. 30$ saves the day (and that rebate probably won't last until you go to buy):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135040
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131013

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« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2007, 08:52:52 am »
Okay Ill go with the asus mobo.
Ill go with the sata.
Im going with the pqi turbo memory.
but which psu do you recommend?

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2007, 09:08:46 am »
sry i linked to the cd drive 2x....lol

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709004
the sunbeam nuuo psu was what i have worked with before...it's incredible...

we picked it out initially with the following idea:

If they have enough balls to put a killer whale on the box, then it must be good.

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2007, 10:09:58 am »
I'd go with the first set of ram, cause it's a proven company....the 2nd set is new to me, but they got a pretty decent rating among all of their ramsticks and have nice low CAS latencies...

for the motherboards it's a tradeoff....

with the ecs you're getting the 590 chipset, the nice backpanel cpu vent, and the extra goodies, like the esata cable, the crossover cable, the beautiful top hat flash, the nice short sata cables, the esata bracket, and the front bracket for more front usbs....

with the asus you're getting the passive cooling heatsink (which is supersexinice), the stereo array microphone (used to autocalculate/autosetup a room for surround sound, plus a high quality microphone), asus's pretty good support w/ loads of bios updates, and the stability of the 570 chipset.

they're both good boards, and basically come down to how much money you wanna spend and how much noise you like (those fans aren't silent, yaknow :P) If you want to in the future, you can spring money for a passive chipset cooler though....

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2007, 10:36:33 am »
Monitor: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=453139

My suggestions for the computer:
1.  If you're not overclocking much, which I dont think you will be if you're using the stock AMD heatsink, get a cheaper motherboard.  If you're not overclocking, as long as it has a decent northbridge, like Nforce 5, all motherboards are going to be similar.  This BFG is reasonable after rebates http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813189002

2.  Get a cheaper case or a better case.  $86 shipped is a whole lot to pay for a case from a crappy company.  You can get a decent Antec for that much.

3.  Get a better hard drive.  I know you don't need the capacity, but the speed is what matters.  Hard drives tend to be the biggest bottleneck for non-gaming computer use.  Look for something perpendicular with 16mb of cache, its entirely worth it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148144

4.  That power supply won't have a problem running that computer, but the efficiency on it is atrocious.  You're going to be wasting a lot of power with it, plus it'll be generating absurd amounts of heat.  I recommend getting a better power supply.  This cheap Antec http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103937 or this Fortron http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104934 would both be better.

5.  As for ram, its probably worth the jump to 800.  This g-skill has decent timings http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231088

6.  I don't think it's worth paying twice as much for an SATA burner.  Most motherboards come with rounded IDE cables, which will look decent enough.

Edit:  You might want to look into Antec Case/PSU combos.  It's a good way to save a lot of money.

Edit 2:  Case + PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129155
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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2007, 11:24:06 am »
i will be getting the bfg mobo. I will also upgrade to ddr2 800 and probably downgrade the amd to 3800+. I am sticking with the psu i picked out and the case. I will get that monitor. I will stick with IDE and not sata cause i dont care if it looks good on the inside. thanks for all the help, im pretty sure ill post my final list later today.

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2007, 11:25:00 am »
Ok, I went through and made a Newegg wishlist of what I would buy if I was building a computer with your requirements.  It comes out to ~$790 shipped minus $85 of rebates, so $700 total.

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=5713147
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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2007, 11:49:55 am »
ill see the list when i get on the computer cause Im on my psp right now.

EDIT:
Saw it.
Only agree with the memory.

Ill put an updated list up in a bit.

2ND EDIT:
My hopefully final list

Newegg.com - BFG Tech BFGRANF590S ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813189002

Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+(65W) 2.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103733

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144415

G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231088

Newegg.com - XFX GeForce 7600GT PVT73GUGD3 Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150182

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R Burner, LightScribe Technology, IDE, Model SH-S182M/BEBN - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151136

Newegg.com - APEVIA (ASPIRE) X-CRUISER-BK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144151

Newegg.com - Sunbeam NUUO SUNNU550-US-BK 550W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817709004

Total: $655.93

Accessories:

Monitor:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=453139

2 80mm fans:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811998101

1 120mm fan:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811998121

keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16823107123

Mouse(one of these):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826193023
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826104136

100 ft. ethernet cable:
around $15


All in all it will be: $816.65 give or take $20
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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2007, 03:56:21 pm »
Cheaper vid card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130073

I still think its worth the switch to Core 2.  The E6300 is 10-50% faster than a 3800+ at stock speeds.
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« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2007, 05:09:55 pm »
I think 20$ is worth it for the black look and the 200mhz ram overclock that you'll never get out of the evga one, imo. But if you were looking to save a few bucks, then that's where I'd also agree.

If you're not a fan of the aquablue ram heatsink, you could spring another 9$ for the white/silver heatsink by the same company....and its also a bit faster:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231113
or if you're more of a black fan, spring for the wintec (but gskill is much nicer in my opinion)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820161174

If I had to pick one of those 2 mice, I'd go with the logitech. But I hate logitech so much with their big logos of death that I might slit my emo wrists when ordering them lol

For me, I have a 7 button mouse in my desk drawer, used for a month. I got sick of it so quickly and bought a micosoft mouse that my friend had that was very comfortable. It's an old mouse, but if you're looking for something that works good NO MATTER WHAT THE DPI BS IS and you don't want 200000 buttons, then grab one of these...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826105128 <-mine :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826105185 <-black version

I've also heard alot of good stuff about this one....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16826123003

lots and lots and lots of good reviews...
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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2007, 06:15:54 pm »
im going with that black microsoft mouse. Im gonna stick with all of the things on my last list. what do you think? a good list?

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2007, 10:03:13 pm »
a delicious list :)

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Re: what should i get?
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2007, 07:40:57 am »
I dono when you're gonna buy all of this stuff, but AMD just announced a 45W 3800+ yesterday or today, so if its cheaper, that may be an even better buy.